[SeanK]

With all your experience seank I would have thought you would have at least noticed by now that on many surfaces after using pure water it dries dull, some surfaces are more apparent than others.

Over the years, I had several customers comment ( not complain ) that the windows didn't have that zing they used to have, I couldn't agree the time understand it, but checking out these windows and frames closely showed that the upvc had definitely got a lustre finish and not glossy - the glass was great.
These frames I treated like a first clean with a g101 solution and pure water clean the frames dried and shone ( just like a first clean!!) then up popped vision, brill, I added it to the pure, yes the results are subtle but they were there, since that day not one single customer ( and I have a few ) has ever said the Windows have lost that bright zing of the first clean

Of course, you can argue it's just coinsidence, it's  something to boost my confidence, I don't really know or understand how WFP works, but the science is clear, water (even pure) can only do so much, and to have, embrace  and use pure water on steroids is the right way forward.

To me it sounds like you may have a few confidence problems with respect to cleaning and WFP, I Could be wrong but that's just the way you come across..

Darran

What science is clear ? I can certainly understand a newbie coming into this business and not understanding how it works
or what is what but you come from a manufacturing engineering background and it surprises me that you don't even know
the basics on what causes a window frame to lose its shine or what it takes to restore it.
Like I have already said GG3 isn't the best cleaner on the market even when used in traditional work so the small amounts you add to your tank would be diluted well beyond any use.
I like it because the majority of traditional work I do is inside and it seems to stay wet longer on hot days so maybe that's
what's fooling you the wet pebble effect.
So I have confidence issues with using wfp because I don't need to use an additive to achieve results that please me.
Very good.

[SeanK]

Seank you used to do my head in when I was part of the vision team. 

Now I just find it quite funny to be honest, and at least now I don't have to worry about sounding professional in my answers (not that I managed that anyway). 

You say that using additives  is pointless because they are used in such a small amount that it has no effect what so ever...........

That can be proved wrong straight away by anyone who has tried vision. The first thing you notice is the glide of the brush head on the glass. 

Now if 1mill per 100 litres of pure can make the bristles glide more on a surface, it would be reasonable to deduce that it's also possible that an additive at that ratio could also help with the clean or shine?

Surely your not that narrow minded?

Unfortunately Jonny no matter how much I try I just cant get past my common sense and the fact that I did go into the upvc restoring game for a while.

[Smudger]

So what happened in the upvc resortation  game that you changed to cleaning windows ?

Darran

[davids3511]

I've never cleaned my tanks in eight years  Never washed a brush either.

Ive never cleaned the tank but I've had to wash the odd brush that got BBQ grease on it from a window too near the BBQ.

[SeanK]

So what happened in the upvc resortation  game that you changed to cleaning windows ?

Darran

There wasn't enough demand which I don't mind as window cleaning has turned out to be a lot handier.