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samson

Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2015, 09:28:35 am »
We also have a front page free adds magazine add that goes out to 64k homes and businesses? So that gives a steady stream of work  ;D

Stoots

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Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2015, 07:19:41 pm »
Samson you say you got a couple of leafletters? how many leaflets are you getting out per week?

samson

Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2015, 08:27:51 pm »
Samson you say you got a couple of leafletters? how many leaflets are you getting out per week?
Varies really, average 3 - 4k.

Smurf

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Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2015, 01:29:15 am »
I was taking to a chap the other day whilst out on a gutter quote as he was across the road with a diy washer trying to do his driveway. He mentioned that an Irish chap and his 2 boys had cleaned 10 driveways in that street but he thought it cheaper after their quote to buy himself an eclectic karcher.

I asked if they where tinkers and he said he did not know but they had glossy leaflets and drove a brand new merc sign written van. Hmmmm...

Best bit he thought what they had done looked good too but when I looked at one driveway that they had done the moss and weeds were still visible between the block pavers not to mention the black spots everywhere....

Bless em as they charged a bloody fortune too. So my point is door knocking with glossy leaflets obviously works  ;D ;D ;D   

steve rix

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Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2015, 02:02:39 am »
I look at it this way would you rather do 1 job a day in less time than say 30 to make the same amount...
I know which I prefer how about you?

Many go on how much they can earn per hour which if that is the case window cleaning is probably the lowest paid out of all of the services that a cleaner could offer.
i TAKE IT YOU ARE JOKING?

Smurf

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Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2015, 12:47:13 pm »
I look at it this way would you rather do 1 job a day in less time than say 30 to make the same amount...
I know which I prefer how about you?

Many go on how much they can earn per hour which if that is the case window cleaning is probably the lowest paid out of all of the services that a cleaner could offer.
i TAKE IT YOU ARE JOKING?

Nope but I'm sure you can figure out or know already  what cleaning services are better paid than just cleaning window.

Nick_Thompson

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Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2015, 08:05:28 pm »
tbh if your employee is doing windows only you'll find all the effort of van, man, wages, insurance not very worthwhile.

Care to elaborate, Darran?

Nick
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8weekly

Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2015, 08:45:22 pm »
tbh if your employee is doing windows only you'll find all the effort of van, man, wages, insurance not very worthwhile.

Care to elaborate, Darran?

Nick
That does seem a strange thing to say. If you have enough customers that would be incorrect wouldn't it?

Smudger

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Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2015, 09:13:47 pm »
There are so many variables here, what do you call a full round, what earning potential are you expecting from him every hour and how many hours per day ?

Say six hours a day - 30 hr week - and gives you a production rate of £30 per hour £180 per day

From that his hourly rate is £10.00 is £60 per day  but then you have to cover 28 day paid holiday plus employers contributions and insurance this works out somewhere around £18ph (£108) then the cost of running and insuring a van, costs of making water etc, etc... £25 per day  giving a total of around £133.00
Leaving you £47.00 to do the admin, customer service, finances and give you a living wage

(If I understood the employee is doing all the windows while he does pressure washing)

Of course if they can punch out £50 p/h every hour then the dynamics change. Same as if Ian was taking on a man and they did the round as 2 man until such time they did a round each your earning, then his bit is extra.

Hope this makes some sense
Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

8weekly

Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2015, 10:22:15 pm »
There are so many variables here, what do you call a full round, what earning potential are you expecting from him every hour and how many hours per day ?

Say six hours a day - 30 hr week - and gives you a production rate of £30 per hour £180 per day

From that his hourly rate is £10.00 is £60 per day  but then you have to cover 28 day paid holiday plus employers contributions and insurance this works out somewhere around £18ph (£108) then the cost of running and insuring a van, costs of making water etc, etc... £25 per day  giving a total of around £133.00
Leaving you £47.00 to do the admin, customer service, finances and give you a living wage

(If I understood the employee is doing all the windows while he does pressure washing)

Of course if they can punch out £50 p/h every hour then the dynamics change. Same as if Ian was taking on a man and they did the round as 2 man until such time they did a round each your earning, then his bit is extra.

Hope this makes some sense
Darran
Ah, ok. I should have said full AND well priced.  I see where you are coming from.

Smudger

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Re: Just windows from now on.
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2015, 11:04:28 am »
No problem, but like I say, there are so many variables that a definitive answer is almost impossible, shorter winter days means missing out during the spring, summer and autumn if your windows only.

A full day for us is 8.30 to 3.00 ( residential ) so there is always room to fit in the better priced work in the longer daylight hours, our guys average between £39 and £45 p/h on regular round work

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience