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slap bash

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Trad cleaning
« on: July 25, 2015, 01:18:47 pm »
Quoted on a new shop yesterday, but some one had been the day before to clean. I don`t like to run chaps work down as I have seen the lads around. My god its was the worst job  have ever seen runs from the top of the frames no detailing at all. Starting to clean from the middle of the glass so blade marks. Frames dirty on a new shop. I know we are not rated by the general public, but boys take pride in what you do. I just could not believe what they turned out so been a 1st or 2nd clean it can only get worse. Well Quarter light you are not the only one seen bad in our area. Should I follow them and quote on all there work.

Smurf

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2015, 01:28:56 pm »
There seems to be no reall money to be made in shop fronts thesedays as everyone is trying to undercut each other so you get alot of slap dash tradders about for sure.

No pun intened with you user name slap dash

Matt.

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2015, 04:11:53 pm »
There seems to be no reall money to be made in shop fronts thesedays as everyone is trying to undercut each other so you get alot of slap dash tradders about for sure.

No pun intened with you user name slap dash
Are you sure !!!!!

I have lots of shops and can run £300 worth of work off in a morning starting about 4am - noon.

There's money to be made in trad or wfp

As for the standards of some window cleaners work, it's shocking. I have job adverts out all the time for window cleaners, and the standard of there work doesn't get them past the first window.

I get the famous " ye mate...... Been doing it 10 years " so I say 10 years .....( pause ) so you know what your doing when it comes to cleaning all the frames and any run off or excess water...... And any mess on the floor ye ............. " ye mate no probs " ok al pick u up at half 3 in the morning ..........
........... 9/10 are sent to find the bus stop by 4am the odd 1 will see the day out but not employment material.

I started a lad last week and the only reason he's still here is because I am up the wall with work but I already told him he's got to improve and I am going to keep looking for staff, he has to be better than anyone who gets interviewed.

It's hard were I am to get good lads, in hindsight I should have dropped job opportunities leaflets off in the local schools about April, for anyone looking to go into work direct from school and done the training myself.

Smurf

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2015, 06:17:22 pm »
There seems to be no reall money to be made in shop fronts thesedays as everyone is trying to undercut each other so you get alot of slap dash tradders about for sure.

No pun intened with you user name slap dash
Are you sure !!!!!

I have lots of shops and can run £300 worth of work off in a morning starting about 4am - noon.

There's money to be made in trad or wfp

As for the standards of some window cleaners work, it's shocking. I have job adverts out all the time for window cleaners, and the standard of there work doesn't get them past the first window.

I get the famous " ye mate...... Been doing it 10 years " so I say 10 years .....( pause ) so you know what your doing when it comes to cleaning all the frames and any run off or excess water...... And any mess on the floor ye ............. " ye mate no probs " ok al pick u up at half 3 in the morning ..........
........... 9/10 are sent to find the bus stop by 4am the odd 1 will see the day out but not employment material.

I started a lad last week and the only reason he's still here is because I am up the wall with work but I already told him he's got to improve and I am going to keep looking for staff, he has to be better than anyone who gets interviewed.

It's hard were I am to get good lads, in hindsight I should have dropped job opportunities leaflets off in the local schools about April, for anyone looking to go into work direct from school and done the training myself.

I would want more than 300 for an 8 hour day starting at stupid o'clock if it was me. I take it you have to pay the chaps wages out of that too?

Sounds like you are a hard grafter so respect for that but there is no way on this earth I would start work at 4am unless it was really worth my while to do so.

the king

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2015, 06:30:55 pm »
i do shop fronts can urn £25/ £30 ph on glass when u throw signs in to the mix ur looking at a nce wage realy, good thing about shops is u can start as early as u want  im an early riser so its suts me fine , an i luv the banter with every one in the town

Stoots

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2015, 09:14:08 pm »
There seems to be no reall money to be made in shop fronts thesedays as everyone is trying to undercut each other so you get alot of slap dash tradders about for sure.

No pun intened with you user name slap dash
Are you sure !!!!!

I have lots of shops and can run £300 worth of work off in a morning starting about 4am - noon.

There's money to be made in trad or wfp

As for the standards of some window cleaners work, it's shocking. I have job adverts out all the time for window cleaners, and the standard of there work doesn't get them past the first window.

I get the famous " ye mate...... Been doing it 10 years " so I say 10 years .....( pause ) so you know what your doing when it comes to cleaning all the frames and any run off or excess water...... And any mess on the floor ye ............. " ye mate no probs " ok al pick u up at half 3 in the morning ..........
........... 9/10 are sent to find the bus stop by 4am the odd 1 will see the day out but not employment material.

I started a lad last week and the only reason he's still here is because I am up the wall with work but I already told him he's got to improve and I am going to keep looking for staff, he has to be better than anyone who gets interviewed.

It's hard were I am to get good lads, in hindsight I should have dropped job opportunities leaflets off in the local schools about April, for anyone looking to go into work direct from school and done the training myself.

I would want more than 300 for an 8 hour day starting at stupid o'clock if it was me. I take it you have to pay the chaps wages out of that too?

Sounds like you are a hard grafter so respect for that but there is no way on this earth I would start work at 4am unless it was really worth my while to do so.

more than 300 for 8 hours? f***in hell its getting a bit daft now

bobplum

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2015, 11:00:54 pm »
imo, shops are about volume and location, ie quite a few in an  area.
Matty why not subby it out to someone you can trust

Matt.

  • Posts: 1836
Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2015, 08:16:04 am »
Come on Bob............

U know how it is........ Am looking to expand not sub out.
Smurf - I have a few contracts ( one I was refering to above gets done 4 times a week ....... That's 4 times that rate just for morning ........ Are u sure u  would turn away £1200 a week for a few mornings ??? With 32 hrs labour )
That's just a small piece of my round my days don't end there  ;D

Smurf

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2015, 10:22:51 am »
Matt now you said it that way sounds alot more appealing but still the early starts must be a killer surely?

Matt.

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2015, 10:35:20 am »
Yes ur right .... I hate the mornings .... But I been doing it for last 15 plus years so I just get in with it.

I do prefer to work through the night were I can but not all jobs are accessible


Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2015, 10:37:54 am »
There seems to be no reall money to be made in shop fronts thesedays as everyone is trying to undercut each other so you get alot of slap dash tradders about for sure.

No pun intened with you user name slap dash
Are you sure !!!!!

I have lots of shops and can run £300 worth of work off in a morning starting about 4am - noon.

There's money to be made in trad or wfp

As for the standards of some window cleaners work, it's shocking. I have job adverts out all the time for window cleaners, and the standard of there work doesn't get them past the first window.

I get the famous " ye mate...... Been doing it 10 years " so I say 10 years .....( pause ) so you know what your doing when it comes to cleaning all the frames and any run off or excess water...... And any mess on the floor ye ............. " ye mate no probs " ok al pick u up at half 3 in the morning ..........
........... 9/10 are sent to find the bus stop by 4am the odd 1 will see the day out but not employment material.

I started a lad last week and the only reason he's still here is because I am up the wall with work but I already told him he's got to improve and I am going to keep looking for staff, he has to be better than anyone who gets interviewed.

It's hard were I am to get good lads, in hindsight I should have dropped job opportunities leaflets off in the local schools about April, for anyone looking to go into work direct from school and done the training myself.

I would want more than 300 for an 8 hour day starting at stupid o'clock if it was me. I take it you have to pay the chaps wages out of that too?

Sounds like you are a hard grafter so respect for that but there is no way on this earth I would start work at 4am unless it was really worth my while to do so.

more than 300 for 8 hours? f***in hell its getting a bit daft now

It always does.  :P

dave budden

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2015, 10:43:41 am »
Matt now you said it that way sounds alot more appealing but still the early starts must be a killer surely?
You like your bed too much smurf
That's why your still in bed while we're grafting
Must be an age thing ;D

Smurf

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2015, 11:35:41 am »
Tell me about it  Dave as  it's hard for me thesedays to get out of bed for sure ;D

Matt now you said it that way sounds alot more appealing but still the early starts must be a killer surely?
You like your bed too much smurf
That's why your still in bed while we're grafting
Must be an age thing ;D

Matt.

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2015, 12:47:38 pm »
I cover anytype of cleaning work, been pressure washing this morning after window cleaning, and after me shower am going back out to clean a load of garage shutter doors with lots of plastic windows, bit of virosol and wfp the lot down.

That's 12 shutters at £20 each and I reckon will take bout 4-5 hours but if take longer I won't rush them,

Whether it's wfp trad pressure washing as long as you earning a decent rate and keep busy who cares

Smurf

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Re: Trad cleaning
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2015, 02:14:18 pm »
You sound a very busy chap for sure....nice one Matt ;)
 
I cover anytype of cleaning work, been pressure washing this morning after window cleaning, and after me shower am going back out to clean a load of garage shutter doors with lots of plastic windows, bit of virosol and wfp the lot down.

That's 12 shutters at £20 each and I reckon will take bout 4-5 hours but if take longer I won't rush them,

Whether it's wfp trad pressure washing as long as you earning a decent rate and keep busy who cares