Interested In Advertising? | Contact Us Here
Warning!

 

Welcome to Clean It Up; the UK`s largest cleaning forum with over 34,000 members

 

Please login or register to post and reply to topics.      

 

Forgot your password? Click here

Shane O Neill

  • Posts: 219
Water Treatment ???
« on: July 16, 2015, 12:01:08 pm »
Hi Guys
With rainwater off a gutter into an ibc tank does it need any more  water treatment ?? Just a friend said in passing 'oh you will need a sediment filter'
I want to know once I have rainwater channeled to an ibc tank then going to run in through DI resin into another tank so I will always have pure on standby....any suggestions please could really do with them ....

Pete Thompson

  • Posts: 982
Re: Water Treatment ???
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2015, 01:07:15 pm »
Firstly, why would you need 2 tanks?  Just run it through a DI on its way out to your van or wherever else you need to use it.

Rain water is very pure, but by the time its ran down the roof and along the gutters it will have dissolved a fair bit of impurities and picked up some grit etc so yes a sediment filter on the way into your storage tank is the way to go.  Unlike tap water, it has not had chlorine treatment so it will be prone to algae growth if left where light can get in.

It's also worth remembering that pure water doesn't stay pure forever, even if it's just sitting in a tank the TDS will slowly rise, so this is another reason to have DI on the way out.

Personally, I think this is a lot of trouble to go to just to 'always have pure on standby'.  Rain is also unpredictable, especially in the summer months, so you'd need quite a lot of storage capacity to make that work. 

Its much easier to just produce your pure water as and when you need it with an RO system.  That's what most people do.  I worked out the cost of producing pure water a while back, and it was about 0.2 pence per litre or something, not worth worrying about and certainly not worth the effort of devising some kind of other system to avoid the cost, especially when you compare it what can be earned with that pure water.

However, if there were ever a drought order though, you'd be sorted.  You could continue to work and smugly point at your rain-water harvesting system if any council busybody jobsworth tried to stop you.  Mind you, that only happens about every 30 years or so.

Rich Wilts

Re: Water Treatment ???
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2015, 01:17:32 pm »
Just run it through a DI on its way out to your van.

eh?

Pete Thompson

  • Posts: 982
Re: Water Treatment ???
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 02:48:28 pm »
What do you mean "eh?"

He said:
"once I have rainwater channeled to an ibc tank then going to run in through DI resin into another tank"

So he is going to collect rainwater into an IBC, then pump it through a DI filter into ANOTHER tank.

I'm saying, what's the point of that, having two tanks?  If you were going to do it that way, it would be easier to keep the rainwater in the IBC and then when you come to use it (eg to fill the tank in your van) then run it through a DI filter on it's way into the van's tank.  That way you don't need 2 tanks.

Don't see what required the rather curt "eh?" rudeboy

Shane O Neill

  • Posts: 219
Re: Water Treatment ???
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 03:59:09 pm »
Pete
Thanks very much for your helpful reply....I have moved house (to Ireland ) & im living in the country with plenty of space  ;) & 2 outhouses however the downside is  the house is in a hard water area 340 ppm !! With very low pressure & water is from a well so can't really have it in continuous use
Hence Rainwater ! Which is In plenty of supply ;D .....
But roof is a shed roof galvanise so won't get too much muck from it....
Maybe I'm over thinking this too much  ???

Rich Wilts

Re: Water Treatment ???
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2015, 08:07:43 pm »
What do you mean "eh?"

He said:
"once I have rainwater channeled to an ibc tank then going to run in through DI resin into another tank"

So he is going to collect rainwater into an IBC, then pump it through a DI filter into ANOTHER tank.

I'm saying, what's the point of that, having two tanks?  If you were going to do it that way, it would be easier to keep the rainwater in the IBC and then when you come to use it (eg to fill the tank in your van) then run it through a DI filter on it's way into the van's tank.  That way you don't need 2 tanks.

Don't see what required the rather curt "eh?" rudeboy

Touchy! Hormones playing up sweetheart?

Never mind. It'll all be over in a matter of days and its only once a month.  :-*

Now, my fat stubby little piglet, if you pump water through a D.I. vessel you'll still be there come dinner time before your tank is full. Thats why the 'eh', curt or not, was an appropriate response for such a stupid and ill thought through suggestion from your self.  ;)

Pete Thompson

  • Posts: 982
Re: Water Treatment ???
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2015, 01:01:23 am »
Quote
Touchy! Hormones playing up sweetheart?

Never mind. It'll all be over in a matter of days and its only once a month.  :-*

Now, my fat stubby little piglet, if you pump water through a D.I. vessel you'll still be there come dinner time before your tank is full. Thats why the 'eh', curt or not, was an appropriate response for such a stupid and ill thought through suggestion from your self.  ;)

Lol I was joking of course, it takes more than a curt reply to upset me, whatever the day of the month.

If you have a big enough DI vessel you can pump it as quick as you like.

Rich Wilts

Re: Water Treatment ???
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2015, 01:12:03 am »
A D.I. vessel with the capabilities of purifying water at 100 litres a minute. Yeah,  of course.  ;D


And it wouldn't be the size of the vessel that's important, it would be the bore of the connections that would influence the amount of water you could get through it in any given time. Time being of the essence when you're tank filling. So, where would one of these super-dooper high capacity maximum flow D.I . vessels be available from P.T. that have the same throughout as a transfer hose?

By the way, transfer pumps won't tolerate the pressure D.I. vessels create, which causes another problem to surmount.


Pete Thompson

  • Posts: 982
Re: Water Treatment ???
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2015, 09:09:07 am »
You make a fair point.

Perhaps I was wrong.

martin hulstone

  • Posts: 323
Re: Water Treatment ???
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2015, 04:18:29 pm »
Just fill the van with rain water and put your resin vessel in the van and purify on demand would be one solution?