[SB Cleaning]

I use big amounts of vision in my tank far more than the recommended amount,it doesn't effect my TDS levels

I accidentally overdosed my tank on it and I had spotting  everywhere...I haven't put any in for a couple of days and windows have been perfect.

[dazmond]

i hate to use "just pure water" now!

ive got 2 dirty first cleans booked in at 9am.the windows and frames are getting a blast of virosol from my pressure sprayer then a good scrub and rinse with vision treated water.

yep vision is not necessary but i like the added shine it leaves so ill continue to use it.

it does raise tds slightly(mine usually reads 001) on TDS meter.not any higher than that though.

[SeanK]

i hate to use "just pure water" now!

ive got 2 dirty first cleans booked in at 9am.the windows and frames are getting a blast of virosol from my pressure sprayer then a good scrub and rinse with vision treated water.

yep vision is not necessary but i like the added shine it leaves so ill continue to use it.

it does raise tds slightly(mine usually reads 001) on TDS meter.not any higher than that though.

So its not necessary you run the risk of spotting but you will use it anyway, any chance of a comparison picture Dazmond
one cleaned with pure alone and one cleaned with Vision ?
But be fair don't take the Vision picture on a sunny day and the pure on a dull day and make sure both windows have dried.
If you need me to point out any other reasons why you might think the windows look shinier let me know, we are all here to help.

[Jonny 87]

i hate to use "just pure water" now!

ive got 2 dirty first cleans booked in at 9am.the windows and frames are getting a blast of virosol from my pressure sprayer then a good scrub and rinse with vision treated water.

yep vision is not necessary but i like the added shine it leaves so ill continue to use it.

it does raise tds slightly(mine usually reads 001) on TDS meter.not any higher than that though.

So its not necessary you run the risk of spotting but you will use it anyway, any chance of a comparison picture Dazmond
one cleaned with pure alone and one cleaned with Vision ?
But be fair don't take the Vision picture on a sunny day and the pure on a dull day and make sure both windows have dried.
If you need me to point out any other reasons why you might think the windows look shinier let me know, we are here to help I am here to bore everyone to death talking about the same thing over and over again.  .

I just tweaked that one for you Sean. 

[SeanK]

i hate to use "just pure water" now!

ive got 2 dirty first cleans booked in at 9am.the windows and frames are getting a blast of virosol from my pressure sprayer then a good scrub and rinse with vision treated water.

yep vision is not necessary but i like the added shine it leaves so ill continue to use it.

it does raise tds slightly(mine usually reads 001) on TDS meter.not any higher than that though.

So its not necessary you run the risk of spotting but you will use it anyway, any chance of a comparison picture Dazmond
one cleaned with pure alone and one cleaned with Vision ?
But be fair don't take the Vision picture on a sunny day and the pure on a dull day and make sure both windows have dried.
If you need me to point out any other reasons why you might think the windows look shinier let me know, we are here to help I am here to bore everyone to death talking about the same thing over and over again.  .

I just tweaked that one for you Sean. 

Strange you didn't say that about Dazmond, how many Vision posts  have there been without him feeling the need to tell everybody how he loves the shine, are you not bored of that.

[kempy]

Ive never known a poster like SeanK .
Desmond gives his view  and seanK just posts instantly and negative .
Is your agenda SeanK to just stop Vision from trading .
We all know you hate anything than just PURE WATER , which a lot of persons understand can be improved on .
I just can't see why your so adamant that using a 20 pence  a day product is so bad .
Just don't stress yourself about vision .
At times your just embarrasing yourself .

I don't want to criticise you , but you really are boring everyone .

The last few threads have been good and not Vision related .
That's what we want the forum to be .

Maybe create a website SeanK on your WFP technique and offer training and support .
??

Sorry everyone I may of reacted here , but the bloke is just special .

Is he paid to post so much on this subject .
More to life than posting on Vision , whether it's great or bad for the user .

[Dave Willis]

I suppose if you paid to advertise  then he wouldn't be on your case so much and you'd probably be protected by admin?
Don't see a lot of negativity for the other sponsors. You could of course shut up too then he'd have nobody to argue with 
I can't believe you guys have managed to plug your product for so long whether it's good or bad makes no difference people are becoming bored with the same topic I would think.
Liquidators came and went (most agree they are crap) but yours seems to hang around. I suppose Alex did the same thing years ago but for some reason nobody seemed to mind - probably because he never stoops low enough to become involved in arguments maybe.
If I was one of your partners you'd be in head office Monday morning for a stern talking to.   

[kempy]

Oh dear .

[slap bash]

As luck would have it I have a bottle in the garage - it stinks of isopropanol - might be alright with some scented Ecover though. 


............................... also has a tds well over 200 

Iso is the solvent in Rainex so it is easer to apply. Therefore easer to de-solve in water.

[ChumBucket]

The plot thickens!!!!!!

[kempy]

One day the truth will come out on Vision make a note of this thread and see how close Vision is to Rainex.  I have found out what it is but will keep it quite because the chaps who sell it have tried and tested it and good luck to them. There is no ways they invented and made it. Its sold in bulk and bottled by them and a perfume added to mask its smell. Even if the chaps at  Vision told what its was,no one would believe what it is.
P/SI have  tried Rainex, it is more diluted and it works well and is dissolves in water better. I don`t think it will be cheaper.

This above thread is what really annoys me . Yes we have worked hard and have done well .
On my kids life's it's not a rebranded product - we would get prosecuted for that . We wouldn't be that stupid .
We have tweaked the product since the initial launch in December . I guess as we mix the several ingrediance up we are able to do this . If it was a re-labelled product then we obviously couldn't .
Never even used Rainex or been in my  hands .

So Slapdash , please text me what you think Vision is , 07979 966 041
I'm intrigued
But do respect your post in terms confidentiality , apart from the totally incorrect point that we buy in bulk and rebrand it , that is just laughable .

Why is their no way we have invented it , if it isn't  us 3 , Then who is it please ?

But to be honest it's now boring , the same old acquesations  , same old rebranding of a product etc etc
Blah blah blah

Think I will leave all Vision threads and responses to Jonny . His more patient .

[Peter Fogwill]

Kempy you should be loving this it must be really boosting sales.  I have even thought about buying some to do some tests of my own:)
Your product is getting constant exposure and its free, enjoy.

[kempy]

True.

Ive just responded to a false claim that we have  copied or rebranded a product . Which is just false .

[slap bash]

Don`t get excited think of all the free exposure you have got from these threads.

[Peter Fogwill]

Yes and you got a chance to rubbish the idea now everyone knows the truth and you can no doubt back that up if you have to.  I remember years ago on my forum someone threatened to take me to court if I didn't take a post down.  I refused and explained to them that they get a chance to put the record straight, give their side of the argument.  Had the post disappears they wouldn't have got that chance, it worked with no more threats and the post stayed.

[dazmond]

i hate to use "just pure water" now!

ive got 2 dirty first cleans booked in at 9am.the windows and frames are getting a blast of virosol from my pressure sprayer then a good scrub and rinse with vision treated water.

yep vision is not necessary but i like the added shine it leaves so ill continue to use it.

it does raise tds slightly(mine usually reads 001) on TDS meter.not any higher than that though.

So its not necessary you run the risk of spotting but you will use it anyway, any chance of a comparison picture Dazmond
one cleaned with pure alone and one cleaned with Vision ?
But be fair don't take the Vision picture on a sunny day and the pure on a dull day and make sure both windows have dried.
If you need me to point out any other reasons why you might think the windows look shinier let me know, we are all here to help.

TBH sean i cant be bothered!too busy!ive had a few UPVC cleans to cram in this week as well as all my regular 4 weekly,6 weekly,8 weekly jobs and 2 first cleans!

[paulben]

Some are like sheep with blinkers on if the right people say something is good they all follow and nothing will change there minds