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Andre AG

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Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« on: April 12, 2015, 08:58:12 pm »
Hi Guys

A question, does anyone have their wife doing their accounts, paperwork, office work etc? If so what is the going rate to pay per week, this can be put through as an expense right? And do you have to have an employers insurance or pay anything additional?

Cheers  ;D

Jonny 87

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2015, 09:19:51 pm »
Hi Guys

A question, does anyone have their wife doing their accounts, paperwork, office work etc? If so what is the going rate to pay per week, this can be put through as an expense right? And do you have to have an employers insurance or pay anything additional?

Cheers  ;D

I'm not 100% sure on this as I don't do it. (Wife works part time already) But if your wife has no income, then you could pay her the tax allowance of £10,000 every year for helping you with the business.

If of course your wife is already using up her tax allowance then I don't think it's really worth It, as she will have to pay income tax on the money you pay.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

Matt.

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2015, 09:24:40 pm »
If the wife isn't bringing in enough to pay tax you should be paying her the difference, or if no income at at all you should be paying her in the region of £186 per week as this would mean you losing this amount against your returns, and also gives the wife some money, coz you love her 😘

This way no tax is paid and ni is about £2-3

Yes in theory the wife is an employee so insurance required, or could be done as a partner or the wife could be self employed, and do her tax returns based on not earning enough to pay tax and also submit tax returns and deductions. 

8weekly

Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2015, 09:25:06 pm »
Hi Guys

A question, does anyone have their wife doing their accounts, paperwork, office work etc? If so what is the going rate to pay per week, this can be put through as an expense right? And do you have to have an employers insurance or pay anything additional?

Cheers  ;D

I'm not 100% sure on this as I don't do it. (Wife works part time already) But if your wife has no income, then you could pay her the tax allowance of £10,000 every year for helping you with the business.

If of course your wife is already using up her tax allowance then I don't think it's really worth It, as she will have to pay income tax on the money you pay.
It is if it keeps him under higher rate tax.

Smudger

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2015, 09:35:06 pm »
Yes Mrs smudger runs all things office, when she became full time we changed from self employed to partnership.  We get both tax allowances before paying tax, so net profit is split 50/50 and pay individual taxes

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

KS Cleaning

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2015, 10:16:52 pm »
Hi Guys

A question, does anyone have their wife doing their accounts, paperwork, office work etc? If so what is the going rate to pay per week, this can be put through as an expense right? And do you have to have an employers insurance or pay anything additional?

Cheers  ;D
You don't need to have employers insurance for employing your spouse, although it might be worth checking this as they are known to change the rules from time to time.

steve rix

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2015, 02:08:08 am »
Are you mad?
Why let the other half know what you earn?

Darranvps

Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2015, 05:36:17 am »
My wife has always worked for me that is why I married her - I know she is good at her job.
She does all office work, payroll, vat, tax invoices ad gets £40k per year for her hard work  :o

Matt.

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2015, 05:40:29 am »
Are you mad?
Why let the other half know what you earn?

50-50 split in r house mate, no matter who works wot hours.

gary999

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2015, 07:26:05 am »
Some very brave or foolish chaps on here ;D

Spruce

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2015, 08:05:26 am »
Some very brave or foolish chaps on here ;D

 ;D
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The older I get, the better I was ;)

Walter Mitty

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2015, 08:43:37 am »
Hi Guys

A question, does anyone have their wife doing their accounts, paperwork, office work etc? If so what is the going rate to pay per week, this can be put through as an expense right? And do you have to have an employers insurance or pay anything additional?

Cheers  ;D

I'm not 100% sure on this as I don't do it. (Wife works part time already) But if your wife has no income, then you could pay her the tax allowance of £10,000 every year for helping you with the business.

If of course your wife is already using up her tax allowance then I don't think it's really worth It, as she will have to pay income tax on the money you pay.
It is if it keeps him under higher rate tax.

I'm guessing that if this is the case, it would be even more beneficial these days if they have dependent children.  Is it still the case that child benefit was stopped if one of the parents was paying a higher tax rate - or maybe that was adjusted?

Matt.

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2015, 07:48:08 pm »
Some very brave or foolish chaps on here ;D

Married life for ya mate, both wages in joint account, bills paid. If there's money there don't matter who uses it,  just don't let it run out 😄

gary999

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2015, 10:10:08 pm »
Some very brave or foolish chaps on here ;D

Married life for ya mate, both wages in joint account, bills paid. If there's money there don't matter who uses it,  just don't let it run out 😄

Ive been married twice.....the first one taught me some valuable lessons ;)

AuRavelling79

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2015, 10:38:07 pm »
Mrs Gold does all the bookkeeping; also works with me out in the van on occasional busy days - once a fortnight on average. She also oversees renting part of the round out to DtM and charging him for water, trailer, generator and  guttervac usage.

So she is legitimately self employed - being paid for the most part by me and she also raises her own invoices to DtM. There is also the odd cleaning job she might do for a window cleaning mate who has a cleaning (not w/c) contract for some offices - again a separate invoice goes from her to him.

And as mentioned by Matty Logan, I pay her enough on top of what she invoices others for to take her earnings to about the tax threshold.
It's a game of three halves!

Andre AG

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2015, 10:42:27 pm »
Thanks for all the advice guys  :D

Matt.

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Re: Wife doing anyone's accounts?
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2015, 10:50:33 pm »
Some very brave or foolish chaps on here ;D

Married life for ya mate, both wages in joint account, bills paid. If there's money there don't matter who uses it,  just don't let it run out 😄

Ive been married twice.....the first one taught me some valuable lessons ;)

Maybe this time it's for ever Gary

It's not an issue for me been with me wife since I was 15 so it is what it is, am working on a big job now and says to her she and the girls can have it to go away for a week, I guess it's a happy home, loads of love goin on

haha