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CF Facilities

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tank location
« on: August 02, 2014, 04:30:50 pm »
Hi all I've posted this question in wrong section.

I am thinking of fitting a 350-400l tank in my Peugeot expert.

If I fit it against the bulk head it will render my side doors useless so I was considering fitting towards the back a bit slightly over rear axle so as to leave storage to the front of tank.

My other option is 400 litre flat and shelf over the top.

Any views on these options? If I go for the flat it won't need a frame will it?

Regards

Colin

Bungle

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Re: tank location
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2014, 04:38:39 pm »
Go for a flat tank and put it against the bulkhead, probably 500 at least. Measure the gap from bulkhead to wheel arches before buying.
We look at them, they look through them.

Clever Forum Name

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Re: tank location
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2014, 04:42:25 pm »
search for pics on here, plenty of expert, dispatch set ups.

Simon Mess

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Re: tank location
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2014, 05:15:26 pm »
Why will the fitment of a tank against the bulkhead render your side doors useless?. I have my tank fitted against the bulkhead, and still use my side door (that is a 500l 'flat' tank). The load bay in a peugeot expert is not especially long (unless we are talking about a lwb version of the current shape), so moving the tank back is not going to be a good idea. You may well get away with it using a relatively small 350l tank, but any bigger will probably mean you are exceeding the weight limit on the rear axle, as the load is supposed to be spread between both. Even if this is not the case with a 350l tank, it will probably result in some 'interesting' handling characteristics when the tank is full, not to mention traction issues in wet or wintery conditions.

CF Facilities

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Re: tank location
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2014, 06:23:52 pm »
Why will the fitment of a tank against the bulkhead render your side doors useless?. I have my tank fitted against the bulkhead, and still use my side door (that is a 500l 'flat' tank). The load bay in a peugeot expert is not especially long (unless we are talking about a lwb version of the current shape), so moving the tank back is not going to be a good idea. You may well get away with it using a relatively small 350l tank, but any bigger will probably mean you are exceeding the weight limit on the rear axle, as the load is supposed to be spread between both. Even if this is not the case with a 350l tank, it will probably result in some 'interesting' handling characteristics when the tank is full, not to mention traction issues in wet or wintery conditions.

hi simon thanks for your comments. I agree a lay flat would not make a great deal of difference to the side doors but an upright will as the doors are not that deep. I understand your comment about weight distribution so I think a lay flat would be better. Are lay flat tanks baffled? Does 500l sloshing about affect handling too much?

Simon Mess

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Re: tank location
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2014, 07:23:45 pm »
If you look at the dimensions, the 500 or 350l 'flat' tanks are not actually that flat. My 500l is 62cm tall, whereas an upright 350l is 75cm tall, so not a lot of difference. The 400l is a different thing altogether, the flat version being only 36cm tall. I have not used a 400l, but i would imagine with a flat one, you would have to park carefully, especially towards the end of the day, to make sure the water was going to be sucked out of the outlet!.

There are some guys on here who use upright 400l tanks, this would seem the best solution, but i would feel pretty vulnerable up front, with 400kg of water right behind my head ready to flatten me in the event of an accident. If i had absolute confidence that it could be restrained, then i might consider it myself, but none of the installations i have seen through photo's on here have looked very safe.

For your van, i would be looking at a 350l or 500l flat tank, pushed up against the crossmember at the front of the load bay, combined with straps to stop rearward or side to side movement. In an accident, that combination means there is no chance of the tank moving forwards. For that very reason, there is a good chance my next van will be an expert, or its fiat and citroen cousins.

As for water movement. When i fitted the 500l tank in my connect, i assumed the main danger would be side to side movement, so fitted the tank with the baffle in line. I dont know how much difference it makes with regards to the side to side movement, but when i first started using it, i could really feel the water moving forwards and backwards. It was very unsettling when i came to a stop, and when accelerating!. I stopped noticing it after a few weeks, but i don't know whether or not this is due to my driving smoother, or just getting used to it!.