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Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2014, 07:52:29 pm »
Hardly lurking , I work the surrounding area ,so I was always seeing ex custys . Ks yes the first 10!custys were arranged by the persistent woman who was always on my case . But all 10 of em had either sacked him or set the other guy on . It's not as tho he was ever gunna get em back .

Tom ling

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Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2014, 09:25:03 pm »
Its the customers house if the customer wants you rather than him, then you do as the owner wants, like its been said its what the customer wants at the end of the day, when you buy work your not buying the house just the right (off you) too clean it but then up to that person to continue, but it is nice to hear someone who is trying to be honest in dealings, good on you.  ;)

8weekly

Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2014, 09:35:33 pm »
If you thought there was nowt wrong with what you are doing, you wouldn't ask. You sold the rights to clean those houses to someone else.

Paul Coleman

Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2014, 09:47:54 pm »
You've asked for an honest opinion so I will give it.
You sold the work so it's not yours.
As you have taken some (or most) of it back, you owe the other guy a partial refund IMO.
I say partial because he did earn some money from it so got something from it.
So he did a lousy job.  If he was cleaning windows by squirting tomato ketchup at them, it's still none of your business.
Go on, do the right thing.  Contact him and talk about it and reach an agreement on an amount for partial refund.

capn sparkle

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Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2014, 11:14:18 pm »
You've asked for an honest opinion so I will give it.
You sold the work so it's not yours.
As you have taken some (or most) of it back, you owe the other guy a partial refund IMO.
I say partial because he did earn some money from it so got something from it.
So he did a lousy job.  If he was cleaning windows by squirting tomato ketchup at them, it's still none of your business.
Go on, do the right thing.  Contact him and talk about it and reach an agreement on an amount for partial refund.

Sorry David I must disagree I can't see how the buyer is due even a partial refund after 3 years - He's had a profit from this work, just not kept it. Another 3 years on (6 in total) definitely not....

I'm reading the OP as ...... Should I sell him some more work (keeps losing custies so needs more) hell yes, then I can mop it all up in a couple of years when he's lost that too!! Is that wrong??

Paul Coleman

Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2014, 11:15:51 pm »
You've asked for an honest opinion so I will give it.
You sold the work so it's not yours.
As you have taken some (or most) of it back, you owe the other guy a partial refund IMO.
I say partial because he did earn some money from it so got something from it.
So he did a lousy job.  If he was cleaning windows by squirting tomato ketchup at them, it's still none of your business.
Go on, do the right thing.  Contact him and talk about it and reach an agreement on an amount for partial refund.

Sorry David I must disagree I can't see how the buyer is due even a partial refund after 3 years - He's had a profit from this work, just not kept it. Another 3 years on (6 in total) definitely not....

I'm reading the OP as ...... Should I sell him some more work (keeps losing custies so needs more) hell yes, then I can mop it all up in a couple of years when he's lost that too!! Is that wrong??

No debate needed.  An opinion was sought.  An opinion was given.  Don't have to justify my opinion to anyone.

rosskesava

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Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2014, 11:26:33 pm »
Unless there were legal terms and conditions that were signed when the work was sold, tough luck on the other window cleaner.

If he'd been reliable and done a good job, the question wouldn't even have arisen as the customers wouldn't have wanted to changed window cleaners.
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

capn sparkle

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Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2014, 11:33:24 pm »
You've asked for an honest opinion so I will give it.
You sold the work so it's not yours.
As you have taken some (or most) of it back, you owe the other guy a partial refund IMO.
I say partial because he did earn some money from it so got something from it.
So he did a lousy job.  If he was cleaning windows by squirting tomato ketchup at them, it's still none of your business.
Go on, do the right thing.  Contact him and talk about it and reach an agreement on an amount for partial refund.

Sorry David I must disagree I can't see how the buyer is due even a partial refund after 3 years - He's had a profit from this work, just not kept it. Another 3 years on (6 in total) definitely not....

I'm reading the OP as ...... Should I sell him some more work (keeps losing custies so needs more) hell yes, then I can mop it all up in a couple of years when he's lost that too!! Is that wrong??

No debate needed.  An opinion was sought.  An opinion was given.  Don't have to justify my opinion to anyone.

Just a different opinion David - No offence sought or intended

Soupy

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Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2014, 10:43:36 am »
Not wrong but not exactly handled well. When busybody number 1 approached you, you should have phoned him up straight away - fair game after that. As it stands you are left skulking around, worried you'll be spotted cleaning windies and asking muppets on a daft forum to absolve you of the guilt you feel.

As for selling him more work - why wouldn't you? It's basically free money.
#FreeTheBrightonOne
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Flash..

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Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2014, 11:19:21 am »
If you thought there was nowt wrong with what you are doing, you wouldn't ask. You sold the rights to clean those houses to someone else.

In my opinion you cant buy or sell the rights to clean any house, what was sold was the information that they wanted their windows cleaned.  Selling the rights would mean no other window cleaner could ever clean these houses as we all know there is no longer areas that you own, the home owner might not be happy that the rights to clean their windows is being sold its up to them who they have on their property.

They are not happy sacked their window cleaner and are looking for a new window cleaner so carry on I say, in my opinion buying rounds is a bit dodgy I know its gone on for years but its not for me.

8weekly

Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2014, 11:24:24 am »
If you thought there was nowt wrong with what you are doing, you wouldn't ask. You sold the rights to clean those houses to someone else.

In my opinion you cant buy or sell the rights to clean any house, what was sold was the information that they wanted their windows cleaned.  Selling the rights would mean no other window cleaner could ever clean these houses as we all know there is no longer areas that you own, the home owner might not be happy that the rights to clean their windows is being sold its up to them who they have on their property.

They are not happy sacked their window cleaner and are looking for a new window cleaner so carry on I say, in my opinion buying rounds is a bit dodgy I know its gone on for years but its not for me.
Fair comments, but he had sold his right to clean them.

Paul Coleman

Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2014, 02:00:02 pm »
If you thought there was nowt wrong with what you are doing, you wouldn't ask. You sold the rights to clean those houses to someone else.

In my opinion you cant buy or sell the rights to clean any house, what was sold was the information that they wanted their windows cleaned.  Selling the rights would mean no other window cleaner could ever clean these houses as we all know there is no longer areas that you own, the home owner might not be happy that the rights to clean their windows is being sold its up to them who they have on their property.

They are not happy sacked their window cleaner and are looking for a new window cleaner so carry on I say, in my opinion buying rounds is a bit dodgy I know its gone on for years but its not for me.
Fair comments, but he had sold his right to clean them.

My opinion would be that he has sold his right to clean them too but I would add a bit to that.  He doesn't lose that right forever.  If another window cleaner takes the job on AFTER the window cleaner to whom he sold the work, I reckon the work is back in the public domain again for anyone - including himself.
When I say "right", I am referring to moral right rather than legal.

8weekly

Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2014, 03:17:25 pm »
If you thought there was nowt wrong with what you are doing, you wouldn't ask. You sold the rights to clean those houses to someone else.

In my opinion you cant buy or sell the rights to clean any house, what was sold was the information that they wanted their windows cleaned.  Selling the rights would mean no other window cleaner could ever clean these houses as we all know there is no longer areas that you own, the home owner might not be happy that the rights to clean their windows is being sold its up to them who they have on their property.

They are not happy sacked their window cleaner and are looking for a new window cleaner so carry on I say, in my opinion buying rounds is a bit dodgy I know its gone on for years but its not for me.
Fair comments, but he had sold his right to clean them.

My opinion would be that he has sold his right to clean them too but I would add a bit to that.  He doesn't lose that right forever.  If another window cleaner takes the job on AFTER the window cleaner to whom he sold the work, I reckon the work is back in the public domain again for anyone - including himself.
When I say "right", I am referring to moral right rather than legal.
True, but why would he want to? If he sold it in the first place, why would anyone want the work back? Especially Barry Mallett.  ;D

Flash..

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Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2014, 04:13:53 pm »
If you thought there was nowt wrong with what you are doing, you wouldn't ask. You sold the rights to clean those houses to someone else.

In my opinion you cant buy or sell the rights to clean any house, what was sold was the information that they wanted their windows cleaned.  Selling the rights would mean no other window cleaner could ever clean these houses as we all know there is no longer areas that you own, the home owner might not be happy that the rights to clean their windows is being sold its up to them who they have on their property.

They are not happy sacked their window cleaner and are looking for a new window cleaner so carry on I say, in my opinion buying rounds is a bit dodgy I know its gone on for years but its not for me.
Fair comments, but he had sold his right to clean them.

My opinion would be that he has sold his right to clean them too but I would add a bit to that.  He doesn't lose that right forever.  If another window cleaner takes the job on AFTER the window cleaner to whom he sold the work, I reckon the work is back in the public domain again for anyone - including himself.
When I say "right", I am referring to moral right rather than legal.
True, but why would he want to? If he sold it in the first place, why would anyone want the work back? Especially Barry Mallett.  ;D

I find it more amazing that they would LIKE Barry to clean their windows.

LWC

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Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2014, 04:39:30 pm »
Not read all the replies...if he cant look after them, not your problem. They obviously want you...

dave f

Re: Is this wrong
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2014, 03:09:25 pm »
thanks barry.looks like you opend a can of worms there .i would of done the same.