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stuart mc

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Re: Using I bolts and harnesses.
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2013, 07:48:44 pm »
nope it is not the one for ladders and no they are not fitted high up, they need to be hooked onto before you go out, if that is how you do it, trying to find pics but can't find decent ones yet

jimiwindows

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Re: Using I bolts and harnesses.
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2013, 08:04:10 pm »
Outside bolts have been band inside only.

stuart mc

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Re: Using I bolts and harnesses.
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2013, 08:07:30 pm »
Outside bolts have been band inside only.

by who, do you have a link to prove it so I can check it out

stuart mc

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Re: Using I bolts and harnesses.
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2013, 08:15:05 pm »
I am not doubting you, I just need to back it up when I approach the building manager  and tell them all windows need serviced and eyebolts fitted internal

PoleKing

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Re: Using I bolts and harnesses.
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2013, 08:54:47 pm »
If bolts are on outside dont use they must be on inside.

if that is true why are companies still fitting them outside and certifying them annually?

Can't answer your question but I grew, this has been my experience.
Though only certified every 4 years for the job we did...
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

jimiwindows

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Re: Using I bolts and harnesses.
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2013, 03:52:40 pm »
HSE website  5th line down


ƒ are of the wrong material for corrosion conditions; fail the 6kN load test;
ƒ are set in a structure that is clearly non-structural and incapable of taking the shock load,
ƒ at an edge distance that is unsafe or below the minimum recommended at the time of installation,
- in a position that allows excessive free fall or insufficient free space;
ƒ are set externally when windows are accessed internally;
ƒ whose anchor points cannot be removed for examination or stand away

stuart mc

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Re: Using I bolts and harnesses.
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2013, 05:06:56 pm »
HSE website  5th line down


ƒ are of the wrong material for corrosion conditions; fail the 6kN load test;
ƒ are set in a structure that is clearly non-structural and incapable of taking the shock load,
ƒ at an edge distance that is unsafe or below the minimum recommended at the time of installation,
- in a position that allows excessive free fall or insufficient free space;
ƒ are set externally when windows are accessed internally;
ƒ whose anchor points cannot be removed for examination or stand away

thanks that looks pretty clear, until I went to hse website and found the document that is taken from
http://www.hse.gov.uk/falls/downloads/anchors.pdf

now when you read that it isn't so clear, but what is clear is the companies that fit and inspect these points have to know and be trained, and it makes it clear that just reading that document does not make you competent to decide, so the only for me to know is to speak about this document with the installers, at least I know what I need to do now

jimiwindows

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Re: Using I bolts and harnesses.
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2013, 06:23:12 pm »
Hi Stuart its just i was having some fitted on a job only 2 i bolts at the back of a restaurant and i wanted them on outside so i could get a glass roof but they said no must be on inside.