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goldoak

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payload questions. not sure on what's covered.
« on: July 31, 2013, 05:56:55 pm »
Does payload include you and fuel or isit just the cargo space in the rear of the van.

My payload is 1.234..1 tonne 234kg.but me and worker take up the 234kg or there abouts.

Thanks Leighton.

No guessing from the normal del boys please.

Lee GLS

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Re: payload questions. not sure on what's covered.
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 06:00:07 pm »
Payload takes into account fuel, spare tyre, driver and passenger.

I made this mistake with my first van which had a 900kg payload. With a 650L tank, 2 people ladders, full tank of fuel ect, I was 300kg over the payload  :o. Needless to say I no longer have that van.

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: payload questions. not sure on what's covered.
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2013, 06:02:10 pm »
Dont forget air-con if you have that fitted as well.

Dave Willis

Re: payload questions. not sure on what's covered.
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2013, 06:04:18 pm »
Check the manual - some include fuel, some don't some manufacturers 'cheat' a bit with their payload claims.

goldoak

  • Posts: 36
Re: payload questions. not sure on what's covered.
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2013, 06:08:46 pm »
Thanks . I'll have a look at the book...

Michael Peterson

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Re: payload questions. not sure on what's covered.
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2013, 06:15:02 pm »
so in theory i could replace a passanger with like 2 25 litre barrels in the passanger seat ? not that i need to but could i if i wanted ?

PoleKing

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Re: payload questions. not sure on what's covered.
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2013, 06:19:05 pm »
To be 100% sure (if you wanted to) put the kit in the van that you want to carry but no water at all but a full tank if diesel.
Once you have your weight waterless you'll know how many litres you can carry. 1litre=1kg
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Ian Lancaster

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Re: payload questions. not sure on what's covered.
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2013, 06:40:38 pm »
The only foolproof way of knowing is to go by the GVW - They may have changed the terminology but it stood for Gross Vehicle Weight.  This is the absolute maximum the vehicle can weigh on the road. Also sometimes called Kerb Weight.

It will be stamped on a plate somewhere, on a door pillar, under the bonnet etc.

You need to put everything you carry in or on the van, fill the fuel tank and take it to the nearest public weighbridge.  For a small fee they will weigh it for you.  Make sure you are in the van, and a passenger if you intend to carry one.  Leave your water tank empty.

When the van is weighed you will get a certificate from the weighbridge operator.  Keep this to show any official who may ask about your vehicle weight.

The difference between the weighbridge figure and your GVW is the amount of water you can carry.

So:
(Say) Vehicle GVW is shown as 2,500 kg
Van/full fuel tank/ladders/pump/Di/reel(s)/hoses/poles/driver/passenger etc etc weighs 1,800 kg

This gives 700kg spare capacity so you could carry 400lt water with a safety margin of 300kg.  You could carry 700lt but it would shorten the life of your suspension!

goldoak

  • Posts: 36
Re: payload questions. not sure on what's covered.
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2013, 09:29:08 pm »
The only foolproof way of knowing is to go by the GVW - They may have changed the terminology but it stood for Gross Vehicle Weight.  This is the absolute maximum the vehicle can weigh on the road. Also sometimes called Kerb Weight.

It will be stamped on a plate somewhere, on a door pillar, under the bonnet etc.

You need to put everything you carry in or on the van, fill the fuel tank and take it to the nearest public weighbridge.  For a small fee they will weigh it for you.  Make sure you are in the van, and a passenger if you intend to carry one.  Leave your water tank empty.

When the van is weighed you will get a certificate from the weighbridge operator.  Keep this to show any official who may ask about your vehicle weight.

The difference between the weighbridge figure and your GVW is the amount of water you can carry.

So:
(Say) Vehicle GVW is shown as 2,500 kg
Van/full fuel tank/ladders/pump/Di/reel(s)/hoses/poles/driver/passenger etc etc weighs 1,800 kg

This gives 700kg spare capacity so you could carry 400lt water with a safety margin of 300kg.  You could carry 700lt but it would shorten the life of your suspension!

top man, thanks il sort asap.