[Bryan_Dolby]

Hi All
I would like to put a different concept to this topic
I have been involved with FWC for the past 20 years
A trade association is there to represent the window cleaning industry, you might ask me how as this been achieved.

When health and safety went ballistic a few years ago, meetings were held to see what we can do to prevent accidents and make our industry safer
The FWC attended all these meetings and started to formulate different ways to get the message to its members.
Window talk
Video now DVD
Guidance sheets
Training (Safe use of ladders and WFP and risk assessment IOSH accredited)

WAHR
Work at height regulations started in 2000 and finished in 2005 as regulations
First on the list was banning ladders, again lots of meetings, emails, phone calls.
As you see it took 5 years to get things right and be made as a regulation
The FWC had a lot of input into why we should keep ladders in our industry

NVQ / QCF
The FWC helped advice what will be expected for a window cleaner to gain this certificate
In all what a window cleaner does every day
The best bit is this took 4 drafts till they got it right
Again 3 years later

Defra and the water drought
The FWC organised meetings with the key industry persons and defra to explain that window cleaning cannot be banned from using a hose pipe
Key persons
Health and safety executive
FWC
CSSA
Steve Lowe
Craig Molem
All the above people need a pat on the back for what they achieved with the drought problem

Trade shows
Not going to say a lot about this only, I do not think people think of the time, cost and discussions it takes to make trade shows happen
But when negative things get said the best ones spring to mind
I walked round it in 10 minutes and went home it was crap
To far
Just ask Dave from st ives how much ££££ he as made from trade shows

Just a quick question
How many of you applied for tickets vanfeast and failed to go?

These are just a few reasons we need a trade association that actually does what it supposed to do
Represent its industry
I could go on but this is just a few of the things that come mind

On here pepole will say none of this as effected me, but they have gained from what the FWC as achieved

Bryan

[Bryan_Dolby]

Trev

Must be one of the lucky ones
One of the local window cleaners very ill

The lads are looking after is round as we speak

Understand your question about working at height but maybe need to clarify were and what

Does it not say in the guidence sheets? (FWC website)
Bryan

[Lee Burbidge]

Hi Brian.... I joined the FWC back in 1999 and although I feel I made a good choice, I hear and see a lot. I want to know if you feel that the FWC has lost any credibility with in the industry wether that be  industry leaders or window cleaners.

It feels that way when I net work. What do you think might be happening here?

[Bryan_Dolby]

Hi Lee

I feel the FWC is still on the right track and not lost any credibility in industry
We live in a negative world
You have look at 90% of the feedback on this site about any subject
Every time you see some thing about the FWC it’s the same people negative answers stirring the same old subjects
Nobody saying thanks for talking to defra or the HSE
The only way I think it is letting its members down is maybe electrically
Internet
Web site
Forum
Member list on website
Getting information to its members
Articles about window cleaning
What is current in our industry?
New products


We all know there is still a recession out there and not a lot of money
Windex cancelled
Could do with some new younger committee members who are really interested in changes for the window cleaning industry


Bryan

[Lee Burbidge]

Hi Lee

I feel the FWC is still on the right track and not lost any credibility in industry
We live in a negative world
You have look at 90% of the feedback on this site about any subject
Every time you see some thing about the FWC it’s the same people negative answers stirring the same old subjects
Nobody saying thanks for talking to defra or the HSE
The only way I think it is letting its members down is maybe electrically
Internet
Web site
Forum
Member list on website
Getting information to its members
Articles about window cleaning
What is current in our industry?
New products


We all know there is still a recession out there and not a lot of money
Windex cancelled
Could do with some new younger committee members who are really interested in changes for the window cleaning industry


Bryan

Like me, maybe 

[Lee Burbidge]

http://www.windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk/blog/unger-uk-demo-day-at-the-fwc/

Open to non members as well as members.....

[trevor perry]

Trev

Must be one of the lucky ones
One of the local window cleaners very ill

The lads are looking after is round as we speak

Understand your question about working at height but maybe need to clarify were and what

Does it not say in the guidence sheets? (FWC website)
Bryan

Thanks for the reply Bryan and for pointing out the unseen work the fed does, i am currently in process of going through the impact 43 qaulification when i have finished all the dates i will send you a list on what i feel the work at height regs fail when applied in conjunction with other regs, i ndont expect the fed to be able to sort these but at least be able to make the HSE aware of the problems

[Bryan_Dolby]

Hi Lee

You are very keen to make changes and report back to window cleaners
That is a good thing to be involed with

Good article for Your mag
Interview with Dave Morris

Maybe you should  think about joining FWC committee (Dave Morris also)

Hi Trev

Hope you are enjoying your QCF course
Alot of information to take in and paper work
I  think QCF is the way forward for our industry

The FWC as a good relationship with HSE so they can answer your questions or send the questions to one of the HSE forums that they are involed with

Bryan

[Lee Burbidge]

mmmm good idea... what you think David?