[bobplum]

For all you window cleaners who are thinking of investing in wfp. I would just like to let you know about
one major flaw with this type of cleaning.
Its not a fault with the system as such but with some of the windows that you will be cleaning.
Picture the window frame. One or two hinged windows that open out above a fixed window below.
You clean the upper windows first and then clean the fixed window.
The proplem is as follows a upvc frame is not solid and the upper frames can fill up with water which
then slowly drips out on to the clean glass below after you have left.
This will leave streaks and spotting.
Some windows might drip for a few minutes only and some can drip for hours.
I have a lot of windows like this and in 3 years of wfp cleaning have not been able to find a way to sort the proplem
other than doing them the traditional way which defeats the point of using a wfp system.

WHAT A STUPID POST FROM A STUPID PERSON,GO AWAY

[Spruce]

I find the other issue is that when arrive at a job the pole has never taken itself out of the van and prepared itself for work.... my reel also just sits there waiting for me to make the first move..

Its flawed... terribly flawed.

 

[keyser soze]

its a waste of time on builders cleans as well...

[home6442]

Cant believe some of the comments about this post.
How dare anybody find a fault with wfp cleaning.
Once again it has to be the window cleaner and not system.
Yes it must be my fault as I didnt pass my degree in window cleaning.
I wonder how many of the replies are from window cleaners or equipment sellers.
Particularly like the comment that a good wfp window cleaner will always find a way
rinsing etc. Ill just do window frames with no drain holes.
I started wfp window cleaning about 4 years ago with at least 12 other guys all on wfp
im the only one still going.Tried to get some of their customers when they stopped every time same answer no thanks that type of cleaning leaves streaks on the windows. I work in a area where you cant spit without hitting a window cleaner all waiting to take my work.
Saying no system is perfect wont stop a customer going elsewhere because of better quality cleaning.

[AuRavelling79]

I don't know how I coped - 10 years trad and now 6 years wfp. Must be doing something right. Georgian panes; aluminium; flaky paint; perished seals; lead etc. You persist 'til you get good at it. It can be done John.

Also - not many equipment suppliers on here - all except the very best get eaten for breakfast with their parts per billion and poor customer service and scaffolding poles for wfp.

Perhaps you are in some luddite backwater - Oop North in Lancashire or out in the sticks in Norn Irn?

That can work against you if you have a few unimaginative windies that stick to trad. because they can't hack the change to wfp? And if you have custies who don't care if you break your neck.

[supernova77]

I've been using WFP 7 years... I get the occasional problem window...

I cleaned a new customer last week... A new build house, lots of dust on the windows and in the window vents, the sun was very hot directly on the 4 top back windows, they were drying too quickly and leaving dirty streaks all down the glass from the vents... I tried cleaning them 4 times WFP, but same results each time - I got the ladders off the van and trad'ed them! I'll see what happens on the next clean.

Andy

[Granny]

The biggest flaw - if it can be called a flaw -  I find is that you don't get to see the finished result until much - much later and by then it can be too late to save the customer no matter how careful or methodical you have approached the job!
Traditional method you see the finished result immediately.
You then have the choice to leave it or put it right.
g.

[home6442]

Im making a nice living thanks to wfp window cleaning so I would never try to put it down in
any way.
I also know that lots of window cleaners use it very successfully doing a first class job.
But this is a real problem 40% of the windows I clean leak in this way.
I could write a book on all the different ways I tried get round this problem.
Now If I get a window with this problem I trad it. It means more ladder work than I would like
but work is work.
Im sure there are lots of you guys out there that are lucky not to have this problem.
As I have said this post is aimed at new wfp cleaners just something to look out for.
Wfp window cleaning has got a bad reputation in area where I work some down to cowboys
doing a careless job. But I firmly believe that this factor has a part to play as well.