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paul marshall

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Advice on buying a round
« on: July 20, 2012, 10:58:53 am »
hi gang im wfp and most of my houses are 10 and 12 pound ive got them all over the place but i do have an estate consisting of about 60 houses , the other half of the estate consists of 169 houses they are ALL detached and larger than most of mine however the lad that does these only charges 6 aand 8 pounds ,,now if i had them they would have to be a minimum of 12 pound ,,he is selling the round ,i have first refusel but if i go round and say ,, hi im ure new windy and your prices have just  nearly doubled ,im not going to keep many of them am i ..my instincts are telling me not to buy ,its two grand which is a bargain but its no good to me if i only keep 30 or 40 , i mean at those prices i cant even pay someone to do em ,,the lad is only a young lad and he is traditional any advice please i need to act quickly on this
the more flyers i post , the luckier i seem to get ...

stecrossley

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2012, 11:35:17 am »
Be careful because if you don't buy and a new windy comes in and is happy to charge the lower price you may loose quite a few. Look at buying them slowly ramp your prices up once the custys see the difference with a professional company you will probably find they will be happy to pay more.

stecrossley

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 11:44:01 am »
Paul just seen your based in Liverpool give me a call mate I am based in childwall let's see if we can sort something out between us it's 07851299815 cheers Ste

Ian101

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 11:47:53 am »
Another thing to consider is how full you are as if your full your other better paying work will suffer as u can only clean so many per day however 2 years back I bought an under priced trad round, converted it over to wfp and put all prices up a quid after 6 months, due another increase next year then will be just about ok price wise fair enough the round ur thinking of buying way underpriced so will take longer to sort but u can't beat compact work maybe stick em up 2 quid asap then another 2 quid in 18 months - sometimes u gotta look long term so in say 4 years you will have a great round.

stecrossley

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2012, 12:40:44 pm »
Hi Paul sorry to bother you I've just spoken to Ste Money who I have worked with for years. If you decide you don't want this and you can introduce us we will sort out that we will not touch any of your custys we will just put one of our lads on it anyway give me or Ste money a call cheers Ste Crossley

Roy Cauldery

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 12:44:12 pm »
Devils advocate time
refuse the purchase and then start a leafletting/canvassing campaign
If he sells to someone else,chances are they are 'out of area' and customers might not like the new crew.
If your seen about locally at other houses on the estate and have regular business there already,chances are you will get a slow drift over from the work you turned down and you will be able to fill the'gaps' in your round and keep it compact and controllable without employing
Only a thought

Roy
we succeed because others can't or won't

paul marshall

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2012, 02:35:33 pm »
good advice gang ,,ste the round is in wigan ,and ive got a few friends and family who want second choice ,but i will keep you in mind after them if i dont go for it      hope i still get plenty more advice of here
the more flyers i post , the luckier i seem to get ...

stecrossley

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2012, 04:44:12 pm »
No worries Paul good luck with whatever you decide mate. But good compact work doesn't come up very often espescially at that price. the houses might seem cheaply priced but look at what your hourly rate wil be as it being so compact, then look at rising them gradually to fall in line with your other work potential gold mine there mate.

bobby p

Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2012, 05:17:20 pm »
you should be able to do em same price as the trad lad as you are quicker you will make more

Granny

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2012, 08:58:26 pm »

the other half of the estate consists of 169 houses they are ALL detached and larger than most of
mine however the lad that does these only charges 6 and 8 pounds
its two grand which is a bargain
Hi Paul
Is this real?
Does he do them all?
169 houses
£2000

paul marshall

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2012, 03:52:02 am »
well it was real .until he put the price up tonight he is talking 3000 now but hoping i can get it cheaper
the more flyers i post , the luckier i seem to get ...

Ste M

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2012, 05:09:28 am »
ill have it if you dont want it paul

Banbury Window Cleaning

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2012, 06:33:15 am »
This seems like a bit of a bargin!! as others have said you should be able to do them quicker then trad if your wfp! buy the work put the prices up in a year or 6 months. Think long term with this kinda work.
In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals because they succeed in adapting themselves best to their environment."

*Hector*

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2012, 08:28:25 am »
He has probably been reading all about it on here......

Now knows that there is interest so of course he will put the price up... You should have asked a few people in the know privately mate.

My advice try to knock him down to £2500 and go for it.
Everyday this forum slips further from God.  :'(

dazmond

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2012, 08:34:56 am »
if he s done them trad i bet the frames are filthy.buy it mate and show them how much more professional you are compared to him.wash doors and frames every time etc.

it will be hard work on first cleans.just tell them your price is £4 more.when they see how much better your standard of clean is they will be happy to pay a higher price mate.you will probably lose one or two but theyll soon be on your books when they realise that your the real deal.

also i bet he didnt clean all the awkward windows so they will expect a higher price!!

GO FOR IT MATE!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


best wishes


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

Granny

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2012, 08:46:21 am »
I've jus been though 3 very hard weeks 130 odd houses that were in a right state as Dazmond says -  bet frames never been done.
Don't underestimate the amount of work to bring them up to standard - a lot of them I did trad first time and didn't bring them up because I had to get round quick as he had not done some for 3 months.
On most houses the first question when i turned up was "Will the price be the same?" or "No problem with you taking over as long as the price is the same" but they're not very affluent areas.
Some I have lost because the price was so low and I wasn't prepared to do it for that price and they wouldn't accept an increase.
Some I have put up straight away with no objection i.e. from £13 to £20 and the reaction was "I always thought the price was too low!"
It is a risky thing taking over low priced work - my advice don't pay too much because it could all just go down the pan if you're not careful or you'll have some hard days work until you can ease the prices up as I have.
Fortunately he was prepared to just let me take the work but I gave him something as I thought it was only fair.
G.
G.

paul marshall

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2012, 12:00:19 pm »
its done lads 2500 im just goin up now to see him and speak to a few custies at the moment im thinking of putting someone on it and keeping it trad but not to sure ,,anyway i will be posting more topics over next few days about employment ,ladders etc thanx for all the advice ,i cant believe i was even considering not buying it  :-[ :-[ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
the more flyers i post , the luckier i seem to get ...

*Hector*

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2012, 12:09:43 pm »
Luverly jubbly you know it makes sense...

Now you can work out what is best for the round and incorporate it into your own, and then have mix of the both. Work it out ... what is best for you now.
Everyday this forum slips further from God.  :'(

jim bean

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2012, 10:40:52 am »
Some custys are fussy don't matter how long u / someone had the round if they don't like sumthing about u or fink u look funny u get replaced very quickly!

Crystal-clear

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Re: Advice on buying a round
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2012, 12:50:16 pm »
its done lads 2500 im just goin up now to see him and speak to a few custies at the moment im thinking of putting someone on it and keeping it trad but not to sure ,,anyway i will be posting more topics over next few days about employment ,ladders etc thanx for all the advice ,i cant believe i was even considering not buying it  :-[ :-[ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i was reading this , and if you didnt buy it you would have missed the deal of the year, £6 £8 houses trad never cancel later on get your self a decent subbie if your too busy i wouldnt up them for 1 year. 2nd year up them by £1 or £2 tops and leave it.