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Spruce

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40/40 R/O
« on: May 19, 2012, 11:59:09 am »
Hi All,

With those of you a single 40/40 r/o, please can you tell us approx how long it takes to fill a 1000 IBC tank. Our water pressure is around 50/55psi and I wasn't considering a booster pump.

Thanks

Spruce
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Lee GLS

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Re: 40/40 R/O
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 01:11:44 pm »
My 4040 with out a booster takes roughly 3-4 hours to make 650L but that's at 70psi,

Cliff perkins

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Re: 40/40 R/O
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2012, 01:11:53 pm »
Id take a guess at between 4 to 5 hours mate.
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Spruce

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Re: 40/40 R/O
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2012, 01:32:32 pm »
cheers Lee and Cliff
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Ian101

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Re: 40/40 R/O
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 04:44:31 pm »
My tap pressure is 40psi  :( so when I ran without a booster pump it would take 12 hours or more to fill my 650litre tank in van but got an IBC 1000 litre type and with a booster pump it will fill to top from 5pm to 7am.

Window Washers

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Re: 40/40 R/O
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 04:58:17 pm »
I would consider a booster pump or a low pressure membrane. whats the flow rate like out of your tap, and pressure and flow both make a difference in your fill time.

with a booster 3 hours max if good flow
without I would say upto 6
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Spruce

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Re: 40/40 R/O
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2012, 09:04:11 pm »
I would consider a booster pump or a low pressure membrane. whats the flow rate like out of your tap, and pressure and flow both make a difference in your fill time.

with a booster 3 hours max if good flow
without I would say upto 6

I saw a fellow window cleaner down the road this afternoon who has got a Pure Freedom 40/40. His is unpumped and will fill his 1000l tank in around 6 hours. We have reasonable pressure here and a good flow. Much better than before as all the pipes have been relined with plastic.
Since they have done that our water TDS has come down from 250 to 90 ppm. It must have been all the rusty old steel pipes as the water we use has always come from Kilder Dam.

There is just one thing that has bugged me about his system though. Pure Freedom uses a brass gate valve on the waste which he opens to flush the membranes. He then fully closes it after he has finished. I asked if there was any water going to waste when the system was working and he said "yes - a little". So does this mean that Pure Freedom have modified the gate valve, ie., drilled a small hole in it to give the right pure to waste ratio?

If he is closing the waste valve fully off, then he is going to wreck that membrane pretty quickly. Saying that, the unit is about a year old now and they use about 1200 litres of pure a day, so it must be working ok.

Spruce 
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Window Washers

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Re: 40/40 R/O
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2012, 09:50:55 pm »
I would consider a booster pump or a low pressure membrane. whats the flow rate like out of your tap, and pressure and flow both make a difference in your fill time.

with a booster 3 hours max if good flow
without I would say upto 6

I saw a fellow window cleaner down the road this afternoon who has got a Pure Freedom 40/40. His is unpumped and will fill his 1000l tank in around 6 hours. We have reasonable pressure here and a good flow. Much better than before as all the pipes have been relined with plastic.
Since they have done that our water TDS has come down from 250 to 90 ppm. It must have been all the rusty old steel pipes as the water we use has always come from Kilder Dam.

There is just one thing that has bugged me about his system though. Pure Freedom uses a brass gate valve on the waste which he opens to flush the membranes. He then fully closes it after he has finished. I asked if there was any water going to waste when the system was working and he said "yes - a little". So does this mean that Pure Freedom have modified the gate valve, ie., drilled a small hole in it to give the right pure to waste ratio?

If he is closing the waste valve fully off, then he is going to wreck that membrane pretty quickly. Saying that, the unit is about a year old now and they use about 1200 litres of pure a day, so it must be working ok.

Spruce 
Yes purefreedom have drilled a whole in it (modified it) I always disconnect from di when I flush as it pumps out higher tds at the start when flushing which goes through the resin if still connected  ;)
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britishwill

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Re: 40/40 R/O
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2012, 10:34:24 pm »
I would say 7 hoursapprox for 1000lts

Lee GLS

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Re: 40/40 R/O
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2012, 10:56:15 pm »
There is a small hole in the gate valve to allow waste water through.

Frankybadboy

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Re: 40/40 R/O
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2012, 08:08:52 am »
mine running at 55psi unpumped and does it in about 5/6hrs,

i do have a booster,but never ever used it yet