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H2GoKent

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Immersion heaters temp rise
« on: January 17, 2012, 06:49:46 pm »
I have a 3kw immersion heater in my 500litre tank.
What sort of temp rise will it give me per hour? I appreciate there are variables such as ambient temp., heat loss etc but even ball park figure would be useful.

Thanks in anticipation.

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Re: Immersion heaters temp rise
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 08:43:58 pm »
You need to insulate your tank.Then it is still very slow. also is it a 27 inch or a 11 inch element.Get your self a 1000  or a 500 watt fish tank heater to pre heat water so it will heat quicker on the boiler element. heat  heater. I bought a 500 watt alu/ heater of the e bay for 4.95 and this will cope with 500 litres. what I also do is stir the water from time to time to circulate heat.

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Re: Immersion heaters temp rise
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 10:46:49 pm »
I would advise NOT to insulate the tank- if you also want to keep the van frost free too (which is 50% of the benefit of an immersion).

The water will mix itself as soon as you drive off in the morning. The tank & water will stay nice & warm all day (surprisingly) in an uninsulated tank. ;)

H2GoKent

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Re: Immersion heaters temp rise
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 07:15:30 am »


Both useful replies, but I really wanted was some figures, normally there are some people with the requisite knowledge around... ;D

I don't insulate my tank as this then warms the hoses and equipment keeps them frost free.
I did ponder the mixing problem, will it not mix a bit through convection, altho not perfectly of course.
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Re: Immersion heaters temp rise
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 08:56:22 am »
I would advise NOT to insulate the tank- if you also want to keep the van frost free too (which is 50% of the benefit of an immersion).

The water will mix itself as soon as you drive off in the morning. The tank & water will stay nice & warm all day (surprisingly) in an uninsulated tank. ;)
do you use this yourself ?

if so could you porvide a link to where to buy it from and how much it costs to run it ?

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Re: Immersion heaters temp rise
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 04:06:13 pm »
I would advise NOT to insulate the tank- if you also want to keep the van frost free too (which is 50% of the benefit of an immersion).

The water will mix itself as soon as you drive off in the morning. The tank & water will stay nice & warm all day (surprisingly) in an uninsulated tank. ;)
do you use this yourself ?

if so could you porvide a link to where to buy it from and how much it costs to run it ?



If you go on matts forum there's a great thread called "immersion's going in" every drop of info you could wish for inc' pics & links to everything required is on there. ;)

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Re: Immersion heaters temp rise
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 04:09:25 pm »


Both useful replies, but I really wanted was some figures, normally there are some people with the requisite knowledge around... ;D

I don't insulate my tank as this then warms the hoses and equipment keeps them frost free.
I did ponder the mixing problem, will it not mix a bit through convection, altho not perfectly of course.

It does mix by convection yes. As in any similar situation (like a domestic hot water tank) the water will always be warmer at the top.

My tank is a 400ltr flat & the element is approx 1/3 to 1/4 from the bottom.