please see "young one wanting to start"post if you've not read it,gold,good sound advice thanks malc,as a dad and most/some of us are, we want to start them off right/prepare them for life and all its many ups and downs etc what better way than window cleaning,i can't think of any other trade that reveals the true nature of people like this one,was thinking today(wfp so i've no i-pod to listen to so you just think )would this work?move some trad work to a saturday morning/have baby james working with me for a bit-lets say spring/summer then let him go for it!as i said he gained two more jobs during the holidays for us(heard the custies asking him,he was so chilled "yeh what number love,my dad'll pop round when he's finished"even went through all the speel/bullpoop some of us use from time to time)none of that new customer thrill i guess we all used to get at first-think he could sell knickers to pippa middleton that lad

,anyway pippa aside what would be the best way to go with this one?-not having done this before,how do i ease baby james into a trad round?