[Blue Frog Systems]

want to double my round in 2012 and know that door knocking is the quickest way to do this. only problem is that i hate knocking with a passion. so i have decided to take on a s/e canvasser.

plan is to train them up to price up the jobs to save me having to do the quotes, that way i can leaflet. they can knock as they please, so i will just give them a map of areas to cover, a uniform to wear with bluefrog logo and quote forms. will confirm each job before i go to clean via phone.

plan is to pay them a % after the first clean and then the rest after the 2nd clean so that its not just 1 off's they are going for.

what % should i pay though ?

my av price comes out at about £13 nearly.... would 100% be a fair price ? 50% after the 1st clean and 50% after the 2nd clean ?

your thoughts please

[red star]

i pay a  lad £20 / thousand to deliver leaflets and £5 for every new custie

[CraigBlues]

I hate doorknocking but sometimes it just has to be done. I think your better option is to get some one delivering leaflets / doorknocking if they wish, then an incentive like Red Star said to encourge them to door knock rather than just leaflet. :-)

Most people should be able to get 4 new customers an hour if done right apparently.

Your in worcester aren't you?

[Simon@ Clearview contractors]

I think that if you can get a canvasser to work on those rates/figures then go for it mate you can't go wrong.

I do know prom pesonal(bad) experience that if you start providing hotel accomodation and have to pay travel expenses it satrts getting costly...especially if the canvasser comes back with almost nothing!!

[Blue Frog Systems]

plan is for me to leaflet and canvasser to knock a few days later.

been suggested to pay 50% on 1st, 2nd & 3rd clean on matt's forum which is a good idea. the person will be local, so no need for expenses like b&b though they may be needed to travel up to 10 miles, so would pay mileage.

i hate knocking with a passion. i have done it in the past when i first started building both rounds, but cant do it now as it makes me sick to a point where i am actually sick.

[Klean07]

I pay a guy £25 per 1,000 leaflets plus the price of the clean after 3 cleans. Works for me.

[SB Cleaning]

Are you going to put an ad out to get the canvasser or have you got someone lined up BF?

[Blue Frog Systems]

have someone in mind but will speak to him about it first. he used to knock with me when i started again (moved and sold up) though he was knocking and i was quoting. used to pay  him £5 per quote an +£3 if i got the job.

if he doesnt fancy it i will advertise for someone

[Crystal-clear]

blue 50 50 50 is good,

i would go 30 40 50 so 1.2 dont forget your running costs and first cleans are a nightmare.

the trick is to work out his outright fee for the first clean are you willing to give him a whole 50% of a say £30 house when they cancel on first?

[CraigBlues]

You have to ensure that they quote correctly. I would be more inclined to just let them get leads and then you can go and quote.

[Crystal-clear]

yes gettin leads could work but it means he needs to do alot of back tracking to quote

but whats the rate for a lead £3? your canvasser will still make decent money just make sure he knows what a lead is , must have a name number address and they must have been given somesort of a figure, otherwise he could get u a load of crap leads.

also offer maybe a 30% for each job that stays for 2nd clean or %15 %15, problem with canvassers i find is most like the short term they would rather take a hit and take less on the first then more over 2-3 cleans!

[dave f]

pay nowt do it your self you know exactley wot your getting price wise etc , it gose titts up you aint lost owt only your own time .works for me