[Sparkkadian]

Hi guys i have a dilemma. Im definitely planning to go hot with my wfp system. Im just not sure which avenue will suit me best.

I use a 650L upright tank at the moment with a tap that i use to fill up back packs and a trolley, which works great on my work as its very fast and no hassle with trailing hoses. An immersion heater would be great as its cheap, but i'm worried that after heating my tank for a days work that by 1pm or 2pm it will cool off too much.

So i'm wondering shall i fit a couple of pumps and reels to my tank, with a fogwash system that will keep the temperature constant all day to do a really good job.

Which would you guys who have already tried this say is the best option?

Thanx. -Mike-

[[GQC] Tim]

Van system is faster then backpacks and trolley. Just needs a little practice rolling out the hoses. An immersion heater works, but more expensive then gas. With electricity bills going up I wouldn't like to be using an immersion heater. Go for the hotwash, excellent option, just works without hassle.

[Sparkkadian]

Thanx for the advice, i do like the idea of just having the pole and hose to get out of the van. You dont get yourself in a tangle at times?

[DeLuce]

You don't get tangled very often Spark. Its like many other new ways of doing a job, it only needs time to get used to it. If you do go to hose and reel, its better option having your reel fixed in the van as it won't fall over and its less strain on your back from having to carry it in and out all the time.

[DaveG]

Personally, I like the L5 because you have the option of hot or cold water, unlike an immersion.

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

In your situation I'd say that if you lag the tank then having an immersion would work well. An l5 or fogwash would mean you only heat the water you use but filling a backpack would take a while if your used to using a bilge pump.

The other alternative is to cycle water from a boiler back to the tank but if your going to do that you might as well use an immersion.

Simon.

[Sparkkadian]

Thanks guys for the replies.

You don't get tangled very often Spark. Its like many other new ways of doing a job, it only needs time to get used to it. If you do go to hose and reel, its better option having your reel fixed in the van as it won't fall over and its less strain on your back from having to carry it in and out all the time.

Thanx nic, i certainly will i've never really got why people put the reel outside the van you've still got to unreel it anyway.

Anyone know how long their lpg lasts them on average?

[steven ainger]

I earn about £600, for £10 of gas.

[[GQC] Tim]

Thanx for the advice, i do like the idea of just having the pole and hose to get out of the van. You dont get yourself in a tangle at times?

Not very much any more, it does get on your nerves in the beginning, especially with new hose, it needs a while to get supple, the cold doesn't help, but you won't get any of those problems with hot water. Stick with it though, and you will get used to it. Accept it as part of the job that now and then it might snag, you'll soon find where the problems are, and just lay the hose a little different. On the vast majority of houses I can pull the hose all around the house and then work back to the front. Steps, wheelie bins, plant pots and tyres are notorious for catching hose. Your back will thank you, especially if you leave the reel in the van.

[FCS]

Van system is faster then backpacks and trolley. Just needs a little practice rolling out the hoses. An immersion heater works, but more expensive then gas. With electricity bills going up I wouldn't like to be using an immersion heater. Go for the hotwash, excellent option, just works without hassle.

I wonder if anyone's done the sums before, I only need my immersion to be on for three hours before I go out, and I only need that about two weeks out of the year..  I'd try to work out the cost but electricity bills confuse me even more than my tax return..
I agree with you about van system for sure, once you've got used to different houses, where to park and which way round the house and where to lay hoses etc, it's a doddle..

[Sparkkadian]

Thanx for the advice, i do like the idea of just having the pole and hose to get out of the van. You dont get yourself in a tangle at times?

Not very much any more, it does get on your nerves in the beginning, especially with new hose, it needs a while to get supple, the cold doesn't help, but you won't get any of those problems with hot water. Stick with it though, and you will get used to it. Accept it as part of the job that now and then it might snag, you'll soon find where the problems are, and just lay the hose a little different. On the vast majority of houses I can pull the hose all around the house and then work back to the front. Steps, wheelie bins, plant pots and tyres are notorious for catching hose. Your back will thank you, especially if you leave the reel in the van.

Yeah its like anything i suppose, just needs practice. I don't use the back packs on my back i haven't for years, i carry them by hand but that can be a bit of a pain in a large estate of houses. I think with practice, and the hot water system ill definitely be faster and more efficient.