[matt]

x-tel 17 80% carbon fibre modular for higher stuff

try and fishing pole instead of the X-tel, for 20 odd quid its worth a try and it worked for me

[david thomas]

How do you clean the ground floor windows with a fishing pole

[matt]

How do you clean the ground floor windows with a fishing pole

its modular, you just use the top section

[david thomas]

Thanks mate no harm in trying at £20 got loads of pipes and brush heads to make one up

[matt]

http://diywfpole.webs.com/

OR

http://wfpole.110mb.com/

OR

http://wfpole2.110mb.com


as i said, i was in real pain for a long time, then tried the fishing pole and the pain went very quickly

[dd]

Take up yoga. Sorted my back out. It will make back muscles in particular stronger and more supple. Also with the stretching involved helps to release stress and so relaxes muscles.

Added benefit lots of women at the classes!

[Jeff Brimble]

Hi David what worries me is your reference to a "sharp pain" RSI is usually a dullish pain sometimes hot, I would go with the lighter pole advice and stand further back. JB sports sell a blow up cushion called "The Bean" which is great for relaxing your neck muscles but meant to tone your six pack- about £30
But first I would visit a recognised national health chiropractor who will x ray your neck before offering any treatment.
RSI is a long term thing and may leave you with permanent dammage, you can actually work your way through the pain ( I did) after you have had some good advice.
Warm ups and cool downs are mandatory.

[dave f]

seems to be alot of moaning and groning about aches and pains wi wfp all i can say is go back to trad

[Window Washers]

I get pain in my shoulder because iof the forward movement of the pole, even happens with an sl-x, my brother inlaw is a physio and gave me 2 what to me looked like a sheets of stretchy plastic 2 mins in morning I do not suffer this problem anymore, forget to do it and within 2 days the problem is back.

Anyone one with burning pains in the shoulder should try this. if anyone is interested I could do a vid or pics to show what I mean

[lee_dewing]

matt,

how do  you get on with fish poles?

i have a muscle zone 30 ft fish pole and is great for a handful of high jobs,

but wouldn't want to use all day as i think would be a pain.

Didn't you find telescopic poles quicker? (just curious)

thanks lee.

[Ste M]

You really need to see an osteopath or a specialist from that field, also you should be doing some kind of exercise to strenghten your muscles, WFP doe not take much strength so you will not build up muscle by working like you do in some jobs, even trad is more strenious.

I cycle about 60-70 miles a week and because of this i like to visit a osteopath every 6 weeks min, she keeps my muscles from knotting up and creating any major issues. i am in medicash so all of this treatment is re-imbursable.

If you ignore back pain it will not go away, what you will find is that you will be laid up for a long time and maybe do ir-reversible damage

[Reachwash]

Here is a really good exercise to ease back pain that comes with wfp and gutter cleaning work.

1. stand with back against a wall.
2. bend knees as if you are on a bar stool.
3. let your head droop down with your chin in your chest.
4. let your hands hang down
5. gradually stretch down until your hands are touching the ground keeping your legs in the same position.
6. stay in that position for 5 seconds.
7. gradually, slowly return to your original position, breathing slowly all the time.
8. repeat this exercise at least 5 times.

This exercise has helped me many times, try it.

[SB Cleaning]

Its definitely because your standing to close to the house get rid of that crap pole and buy    a slx with extreme brush you will soon see the benefits!

[EandM]

Same thoughts as everyone else. My wife damaged her neck and was virtually incapable of movement. Took her to the doc and they diagnosed her with stuck vertebrae. Treatment was to be up to 6 months of physio and as we were working together would have represented a catastrophic loss of income. Took her to our local and quite superb chiropractor and for £30 had her pretty much mobile again. Took two visits over 7 days and she was fine. May not be the same in your case but as others have said, don't ignore it or put up with.

[GB Window Cleaning]

these are those neck braces that were mentioned...

http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/Safety_equipment.html

if it was my id buy one of these and seek professional help

and also get more work, employ a lad and get off the tools asap. then you can spend time growong the business and pushing it forward in other directions if you wish to do so!

all the best in what ever you choose

george

[mikecam]

And now, two years later, i wonder how the OP got on?

[GB Window Cleaning]

And now, two years later, i wonder how the OP got on?

  oh yeah i never looked at the post date 

i'd like to here how he got on too!

are you still here op?

[SB Cleaning]

Can't believe I just replied to a 2 year old post!

[Reachwash]

Oh yeah

[brianbarber]

........I can't believe I read my own comment, thinking, blimey, he gets exactly same symptoms as me........

Doh !


Mr B