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*paul_moss

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2007, 07:21:18 pm »
If you manage to modify it let me know, I'm half tempted to ring Brian at extracta and ask him if they could do it. 

Is it just the hose that can't stand the pressure/temp or is it the trigger assy as well?

its the trigger valve and hose that can only take up to 150 psi.

Extracta will not do the conversion. Which is a shame because i am sure they would sell a lot if they would. Best stair tool by a mile, but no good with a T/M  >:(

The CFR hand tool is designed for high psi . The optimun psi for this tool is 300.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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brian willis

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2007, 07:30:19 pm »
 I use the HM dry master tool this works fine for me.more than happy..

  Cheers Bri

*paul_moss

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2007, 07:32:06 pm »
The CFR hand tool is designed for high psi . The optimun psi for this tool is 300.
 
 
 
 
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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Ian Rochester

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2007, 05:13:25 pm »
Just been using Steve G's CFR hand tool yesterday and today at 300 psi, why is the head so far in front of the trigger and handle mechanism?

It's like they have designed the tool but not thought of the hand that is going to be using it!  I also find that the actual handle is too thick to grasp easily.  By the end of cleaning a suite this morning my hand felt like a 17 year olds after a morning in bed with a copy of FHM ;D

Ian Rochester

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2007, 10:27:21 pm »
Two more suites today with the CFR, getting used to it a bit but still not comfortable with it.
 
Got to give it back tomorrow!

Jason Hedges

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2007, 10:40:46 pm »
Hi Ian,

I used to use a drimaster but have been using prochems t/m upholstery tool lately. Was considering a cfr as everyone seems to rave about them. But you and others have said about being awkward to use. Apart from not being comfortable to use, any other comments good or bad?

All the best,
Jason.

Joe H

Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2007, 07:40:32 am »
Whn I first got my CFR handtool, I too found it awkward to use.
I bought a "relacement" handtool.
I mentioned the "problem" to the supplier one time. His advice was to persevere.
So I did.
Still dont find it really comfortable to use, its heavy, but it does the job extremely well.
I am glad I persevered and the "replacement" tool hardly gets used.

Ian Rochester

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2007, 05:05:45 pm »
Had a little go with Steve Gunns Drimaster tool today, thanks again Steve, but I think it's a bit too radical for me!!! 

Sometimes I like to just "mist" the fabric and do drying passes to clean if that is all that's required, you can't do this with the drimaster tool.

However, after having a go with a Prochem swivel head handtool (with bypass) at John Kelly's Restormate today, I've decided that this is the one for me.

It feels very comfortable in the hand, similar in style to the extracta tool, got a nice heavy head and I really like the idea of the swivel collar between the tool and the hose.

Hopefully Lynn has put the order in today and I should have it by the weekend.

Will let you know how I get on with it when it arrives, there's plenty of suites to try in on over the next couple of weeks!!

gwrightson

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2007, 05:15:03 pm »
Ian,

why dont you just say that you cut corners  :) ;)  ;) 

What you mean is you mist the sides and back, and a quick once over . YES !!! ;D   save time , but saving time with the drimaster is an essence , no drying strokes required, 
I do know what you mean though  :D  because no spray you cannot acheive a misting .

geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2007, 06:17:40 pm »
well i spok to brain at extracta today andafter the xmas rush ill be getting a extracta tool made for the t.m. cant wait i hate all the others  :'( i guess its what im used too

Ian Rochester

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2007, 06:30:14 pm »
Cut corners........me, I'll have you for slander!!!!!!

I do what is necessary to clean the fabric, as I was taught to do!!

I spoke to Brain and John last week and they said that the tooling costs would be too expensive!  Maybe they've had enough people asking for them to take the plunge.

Are you getting a 3 1/2" tool or the 6".

I would definatly get a 6" tool made up as there is no better tool for stairs or rugs (IMO ;D)

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2007, 07:28:09 pm »
Cut corners........me, I'll have you for slander!!!!!!

I do what is necessary to clean the fabric, as I was taught to do!!

I spoke to Brain and John last week and they said that the tooling costs would be too expensive!  Maybe they've had enough people asking for them to take the plunge.

Are you getting a 3 1/2" tool or the 6".

I would definatly get a 6" tool made up as there is no better tool for stairs or rugs (IMO ;D)


theres no need for any tooling at all just need to change the bits ! trigger and lines,  going to take my pro chem one in to show them what i want got to be worth ago , im going to get both done a 3inc and a 6inc will let you know how i get on 


Chris R

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2007, 11:38:11 pm »
well i spok to brain at extracta today andafter the xmas rush ill be getting a extracta tool made for the t.m. cant wait i hate all the others  :'( i guess its what im used too

Have you got to buy a new one or will they modify a secondhand one ?
thanks
Chris
Staffordshire

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2007, 07:04:49 am »
well i spok to brain at extracta today andafter the xmas rush ill be getting a extracta tool made for the t.m. cant wait i hate all the others  :'( i guess its what im used too

Have you got to buy a new one or will they modify a secondhand one ?
thanks
Chris

not sure yet , i need a new small one but ive got a brand new 6inc so ill see what they say

Alan Brooker. Aqualink Carpet Care

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2007, 07:49:34 am »
Has anyone on hear tried Steamways Kinetic handtool designed for use at 400 psi on anything? I know Paul Pearce swears by it.
Alan
Experience does not qualify as Knowledge and Understanding.
Understand how and why and you'll produce great results.

IICRC, Woolsafe, Fenice & LTT trained.
Member of Eco Carpet Care, NCCA & Woolsafe.

Ian Rochester

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Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2007, 04:46:58 pm »
Got a phone call from Lynn at Restormate today, Prochem tool has arrived, super fast delivery from Prochem.

Just did a small job with it this afternoon, recliner chair and rug and ........ I like it!!  It feels really good in the hand and the swivel makes cleaning in corners easy.

liahona

Re: Preferred Hand Tool - TM
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2007, 05:21:10 pm »
Alan, I use the steamway one amongst others and find it to be very good.  I cant really comment too much more than that on it or others as I dont clean hardly any furniture as I hate doing it and I dont really get a call for it anyway.  The job I did yesterday of which I posted pictures of in a different topic had 6 large silk bench/chairs.  I used the steamway on them and had no problems.

Best, Dave.