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C-Thru.

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Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« on: March 02, 2011, 10:59:24 pm »
Hi Guys,
Now before you all start on me, I know this subject will off been covered before!
I have tried to search but can't seem to find many posts thru the search engine.

Anyway, what in all your opinions is the best way to collect payments from all your domestic customers, houses ect....
Cash collections in Evenings (very expensive on fuel), Standing Orders (got to be on time with every clean)
bank transfers? Ect ect....
Becoming very disillusioned chasing late and non payers!

Any advice is welcome or links to previous posts.

many Thanks Guys

Goochie

Dave66

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 11:07:09 pm »
i just collect a few evenings a week... its a bind but got to be done  ::)
plenty of cream...plenty of sugar!

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2011, 11:49:42 pm »
Re the late payers....

Either put up with them or dump them.... bad payers are bad payers and 99% of the time will allways be bad payers.

Other option is to tell them that if payment isnt promptly made from now on, that you are going to have to stop cleaning their windows as you cannot afford to wait and wait and wait (or words to that effect) - the shock may go one way or another, but it seems like your at the end of your rag with them if your posting about them.

Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

Johnny B

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2011, 11:55:41 pm »
I used to collect 3 nights a week. I've now reduced it to Friday evenings only now, from 6 to 8pm.

I find it very relaxing, as I can just stroll round in my own little world, then stop and chat to customers who are in.

There are always some who are not in though. After a couple of unsuccessful calls, I leave it till next time. I always get the money in the end.

Some send me a cheque, others may phone to arrange a collection time. I don't go out of my way as I am trying to keep my fuel bill down.

John.
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

mark m

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 12:12:41 am »
I dont bother collecting i just let it roll on i only collect if they dont pay after 3 cleans  ::) ::)

AuRavelling79

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 08:12:45 am »
I never collected from day one. All custies are trained to send me the lolly.

It's pay on the day or if they aren't in they always send a cheque (with the occasional cash in envelope thru' my door).

Over the last year more and more are encouraged to pay by bank transfer online and I have now about 30 custies who do this. Easier all round.

In a typical month I collect about 60% on the day, 25% send a cheque and 15% bank transfer. I am confident this will soon be 60/15/25%.
It's a game of three halves!

Paul Coleman

Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 08:22:51 am »
Re the late payers....

Either put up with them or dump them.... bad payers are bad payers and 99% of the time will allways be bad payers.

Other option is to tell them that if payment isnt promptly made from now on, that you are going to have to stop cleaning their windows as you cannot afford to wait and wait and wait (or words to that effect) - the shock may go one way or another, but it seems like your at the end of your rag with them if your posting about them.



I am giving consideration to putting £5 onto the price of habitual late payers - but only if they haven't paid by 28 days (I operate a 6 weekly service).  My bills ask for payment within 14 days.  Nearly all domestic customers comply with this.  Most of those who don't are only occasional "forgetters" so no problem there.
It's just the very few hardcore, habitual late payers who I would be targetting.
If they want a loan they should go to their bank.  After all, they don't ask a banker to clean their windows.  However, having said that, I've no wish to penalise anyone for being on a 2 - 3 week holiday.  Nor do I wish to penalise someone who is having a tight month and intends to pay me on their next monthly pay cheque - hence the 28 days.

The very worst two examples of late paying are as follows:-

Customer 1 is a £22 job.  Some time ago, she asked to go 12 weekly due to money issues.  I agreed as the job is linked to a couple of others (this was before I started charging more for lower frequency).  Although I am occasionally paid more promptly, the typical scenario is that the first clean remains unpaid.  Also, the second clean remains unpaid until a week or two before the third one is due when she makes a BACS payment to my account for both cleans.  Effectively, this means that I wait for the payment for the first clean anything up to 23 weeks (and up to 11 weeks for the second). Due to local issues and a commercial job nearby, this is done on a rigid 12 weekly cycle.

Customer 2 is a £14 job.  It is 6 weekly (meaning 6 - 8 weeks unless in a harsh winter).  The typical scenario is that I receive a cheque for 3 cleans a week or two before the fourth clean is due.  They have been given my BACS details and were going to pay by transfer so I don't know what happened there.  If the payment time spans a harsh winter, it is quite possible for me to be waiting as long as 6 or 7 months for payment for the initial clean.

As I say, these are my two very worst examples.  Other regular late payers don't keep me waiting as long or do tend to pay for two cleans shortly after the second one has taken place.  Example 1 seems worse because payment is made shortly before the third clean and because of the long interval between cleans.
It's fair to say that if all, or even many, of my customers paid in the manner as in the two examples, I could experience severe financial difficulties.

I wouldn't want anyone to actually pay me the extra fiver.  I would far rather them pay within the 28 days.

Paul Coleman

Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 08:26:34 am »
Hi Guys,
Now before you all start on me, I know this subject will off been covered before!
I have tried to search but can't seem to find many posts thru the search engine.

Anyway, what in all your opinions is the best way to collect payments from all your domestic customers, houses ect....
Cash collections in Evenings (very expensive on fuel), Standing Orders (got to be on time with every clean)
bank transfers? Ect ect....
Becoming very disillusioned chasing late and non payers!

Any advice is welcome or links to previous posts.

many Thanks Guys

Goochie

Sorry.  I didn't answer the original question.
I take cash or cheque on the day, cheques in the post, or receive bank transfer payments into my account.  Give them a reference based on address if receiving bank transfers (N.B. Santander don't show these references).
Some people prefer to receive payments by Paypal or similar.  This is fine so long as you are prepared for them to take a percentage.

TLC

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 08:36:43 am »
WWW.PAYMYWINDOWCLEANER.COM

I've been 'collecting' customers phone numbers in the last year or so and when the don't pay for a few cleans I simply phone them and get them to pay using the site, they will promise to do it straight away, n if they don't just give em another call. They will b too embarrassed to risk you calling again usually.

I've never understood collecting as a practice. I understand if someone owes you alot to give them a special visit, but who would want to spend time (usually evenings and weekends) and money on fuel, to go back round the houses n collect when there's other systems you can put in place? ( if you actually enjoy it then fair play to u)

Why not spend the 2-3 hrs per week in the evenings canvassing for customers who will always pay promptly?

TLC

dave0123

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 06:15:43 pm »
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WWW.PAYMYWINDOWCLEANER.COM


I dont see the point in that when people can just pay you on there bank and it doesnt cost you a single penny. Or standing order i have one that pays me standing order and current i owe them a price of a next clean which means they will allways be paying in advance now  ;D
Dave.

baldeagle

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 06:30:56 pm »
I don't go out to collect, although I did when I first started.

I find that customers generally fall into one of two groups.

The dear little old ladies on their own, who always have the money ready, or leave it "under the brick in the garden", if they are out shopping when I call.

The others, for the most part, are those with children, and the adults are working - they are rarely seen, so they get a ticket left every second visit, together with a stamped addressed envelope, and they send cheques.

Cost? about 50p a thrunge, for an envelope plus a stamp, work it in with the price when you take 'em on.
"John the Window Cleaner."
A business founded during the Elizabethan age.

Ian101

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2011, 06:34:11 pm »
most of mine send cheques / online but out now to collect just 2 yup just 2 as they dont seem to be able to write a cheque out  :( ... only 10 minutes up road and both owe 2 months but cant really be arsed for £36 but gotta get paid

dave0123

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2011, 06:38:47 pm »
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most of mine send cheques / online but out now to collect just 2 yup just 2 as they dont seem to be able to write a cheque out   ... only 10 minutes up road and both owe 2 months but cant really be arsed for £36 but gotta get paid


Ive had a couple like that post self addressed envlope with stamp make it really easy for them even write there address on the slip inside so all they have to do is write a cheap out put in post box... still never never get them! so dumped them it was only about 3/4 that done that though
Dave.

chopsie

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2011, 06:47:41 pm »
I do not collect (apart from a couple who text me to say they have left money under mat for me). the ones that do not pay at the time of clean mostly send cheques, probably 20%  pay me through bacs and odd ones pay me using nochex (similar to paypal). I have tried to discourage the use of nochex as it charges me a percentage of each transaction, I have added a 50p charge to my customers who use it and have stated on my website that it is my least preferred option. But it beats wasting time and money collecting. I have introduced a £5 late fee this year and have stuck to it, I normally let it slip for 2 cleans, then if the money does not appear when 3rd clean is due i go and knock/post another slip with £5 added to the total and explain why. I have probably done this 4 times so far this year, 2 have paid straight away with extra £5 included (one of them cancelled...no loss) and looks like at least one of the other 2 is a lost cause.
chopsie

Ian101

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2011, 07:57:57 pm »
most of mine send cheques / online but out now to collect just 2 yup just 2 as they dont seem to be able to write a cheque out  :( ... only 10 minutes up road and both owe 2 months but cant really be arsed for £36 but gotta get paid

well £16 in wallet now other one says ooo thought u was coming Saturday  ::) got no money tonight.

outta a nearly full round i only have a few like these so not end of world and easy peesy jobs with good access and no dogs so gonna keep em ...

however spooted nice canvassing possibility ,,, new estate with lights on in houses so guess their starting to move in

Dougaldum

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Re: Best Way To Get paid From Domestic Customers?
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2011, 10:01:49 pm »
I wouldn't mention the time I go out on what days I collect just in case someone wants to rob you ;)