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kate1

Co-operatives
« on: August 26, 2010, 05:55:56 pm »
Ive been doing some telesales today for a forum member.  Not going into details who or what.

But from my perspective of the calls that I have been making is there anyway of forming a co-operative on the national contracts through your own forum???

I know I see the odd posts, anyone in X

I know it would probably be a quite difficult system to sort out etc.

But knowing you all know eachother on here, you could all quote for national jobs.

Just a thought

Give Dragons den a run for their money   :)

EZclean

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 06:07:49 pm »
Great idea

Baggsy round here   :P
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kate1

Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 06:10:37 pm »
Well it makes sense, keep it in the cleanitup family forum.

How on earth you would create a system Im not sure, but if you all worked together, you would have enough power if not more than Dragons Den, as your already out there working - just gives you more power in numbers.

I think its just a question of pooling resources.




R W C™

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 06:35:28 pm »
I said this a long long time ago, Spoke to Dave St Ives about this and also jvprice, Think it would hard to get a decent cleaner you can rely on in every county....

sunshine windows

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2010, 06:43:30 pm »
I'd definately be in on it.

Would happily do subby work through the forum
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glen parva

Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2010, 06:44:36 pm »
I said this a long long time ago, Spoke to Dave St Ives about this and also jvprice, Think it would hard to get a decent cleaner you can rely on in every county....
totally agree so many it would hard finding a good one  :o

kate1

Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2010, 06:47:26 pm »
Um

Well you would all have to be committed to the scheme, Im really not sure how you would do it.

But I think it could be done, If Dragons Den can do it - I think you guys can do it.

One way I think you could do this is by postcode and nearest to the job.  So thats done on a fair basis.

Not by money, as you guys would need to set an across the board price for national contracts.

Your own personal rates with regards to what you currently do would have to stand, but you guys would need to set a standard tariff for national contracts.  Based on whose nearest to the job


R W C™

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2010, 06:52:37 pm »
There were 3 companys on here that where talking about it (off the froum). The thing is there are so many members on this forum and most them dont post, you would get so many people applying for it but which do you choose, I could name you 8 of my local competitors that use this forum and 6 of them never post....

George P

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2010, 06:59:26 pm »
i would be in, couldnt the serious guys get together and talk seriously about all the pitfalls and the upsides, it would take someone to operate byt if each area was covered it could be done with whoever takes it on getting the best deal

kate1

Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 07:02:29 pm »
George

Think you would have to do it by who is nearest.

If you all have the same standard price across the board

R W C™

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2010, 07:17:12 pm »
It would still be hard to compete with these companys as you would be dealing with people who want £20-£40 a hour where as the nationals probably do it for around £12 a hours as there staff are only costing them about £7 a hour.....

R W C™

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2010, 07:19:01 pm »
Here is a few I put forward to get together David morris @st-ives, Ian Lancaster, JVPrice, seerclean, Archers
There are others but cant think at the min....

kate1

Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2010, 07:23:13 pm »
I just see all of you as having the resources in place already.

If you can all come to an agreement with regards to national contracts, I think it would be in everybodys favour.

How you implement it, is a question of working together and coming up with a solution.

kate1

Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2010, 07:32:46 pm »
For example

I rang a care home today, had a few in the territory that the really nice guy I was doing the calls for.

But the others werent in his area.

He had 10 places, made me think of all you people on here - thats why the original question came up of a co-operative.

R W C™

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2010, 07:46:33 pm »
Why not take the 10 on yourself and get others from the forum to do the ones ww cant do....

WCE

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2010, 07:50:31 pm »
Trouble is finding people who are reliable ::)  There are some on the forum who are already doing this but after getting their fingers burnt will only work with people they trust/trusted names. I think Nationwide is too ambitious but then again I am already part of a co op covering a certain part of the country, the idea of a nationwide coop is good in theory but falls flat on it's face when it comes to finding reliable people and that is the big problem as one weak link can cost you a contract ;)  Sorry to say but it has been thought of before and the pitfalls have got in the way. Lots can talk the talk but few can walk the walk!
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kate1

Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2010, 07:52:51 pm »
Its only an initial lead, very small

The guy has 10 homes

It just got me thinking thats all

If I were to generate a national lead, we need people to cover it

Its all here on the forum, if you guys can set yourselves into a co-operative or something

R W C™

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2010, 07:55:20 pm »
Didnt seerclean set up something but people had to pay a monthly fee and they then got the jobs in that area.....

WCE

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Re: Co-operatives
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2010, 08:01:14 pm »
Its only an initial lead, very small

The guy has 10 homes

It just got me thinking thats all

If I were to generate a national lead, we need people to cover it

Its all here on the forum, if you guys can set yourselves into a co-operative or something

As I said (and take it from me their are several who have tried and have got shot down in flames) it's find reliable people. I would scale down the ambition and find people you can trust and stick to a certain area to begin (tell you what email me the address is in the profile and I will see if I can help you ;)  ) Not making any promises it depends on the areas.
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