[MNWC]

Hi there

whats the best way to take on some one else

Self employed

PAYE

Casual worker

Cash in hand

there are pros and cons with each one....

[Sean Dyer]

You can do anyone of them so long as its aboveboard ie, how many hours are they working, if its 40 hours a week you need to take them as paye or you will have trouble proving theyre not employees, whereas if is just 1 day a week to start you could set them up self employed but still its tricky, just pay them under the tx threshold and you wont have any hassle with being taxed until you have to increase there wage

[darren clarke]

self employed, u can not do if they get there work off u and u supply all the gear and work and tell them what to do,  if they work for some one else a few days a week as well, then they can be self employed,    u could try a cis card and becasue u can supply all the work and gear, but u have to take 18 % tax of them and they sort there own NI

Paye   normal rules apply

casual worker,  same as paye, ie tax and ni,   just mean u can finish them up

cash in hand,   i would do this for a few weeks, till u know there are the right person

[MNWC]

it will be 5 days a week 8.30 - 3.30. So 35 hours per week

[darren clarke]

employed them on casual week to week on a 16 hour contract,   so holidays u only have to pay 16 hours and sick is only 16 h pay

[woody1]

i dont get why you cant put them self employed as long as in a contract they sign state they pay tax and ni and they hire the work equipment from you on a week to week charge thats pre arranged

[darren clarke]

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Taxes/WorkingAndPayingTax/DG_4015975

its becasue the gov wants more tax and if people are self employed then pay less tax,  u can try it but if tax man pulls you then u might have problems

have a look at teh above link, as this will decided if u r self employed or not, as this is what the tax man will use

[formb]

If you are going to employ you should get this:

http://www.lilihunter.com/cart.htm

Dox in a box. All the documents you need to have by law when you employ someone for £150

[Sunshine/Cleaning]

The building trade seems to be able to have self employed workers who only get their work from one source and still be classed as self employed. If they are able to work elsewhere and have their own equipment and have the opportunity to refuse work then they could be self employed. If you contract them and pay an hourly and they have no option to refuse I guess you have to employ.

[darren clarke]

The building trade seems to be able to have self employed workers who only get their work from one source and still be classed as self employed. If they are able to work elsewhere and have their own equipment and have the opportunity to refuse work then they could be self employed. If you contract them and pay an hourly and they have no option to refuse I guess you have to employ.

the building trade work on CIS cards,  they are self employed but u have to take 18% tax off them and issue a voucher  they have to sort there own NI out,  basically it was set up so that employers had to take tax of them, but could sack them any time they wanted

[paul rulton]

my m8 is a hair dresser, he has about 20/30 plus people who who in his shops.
they r all self employed but work in HIS shops. they pay him amin of 20% of there takings.
ive asked him how can he do this & all he said was as long as they buy there own work tools
- equipment they r classed by the tax man as selfempolyed.
so how is that??  : : :

[darren clarke]

they are supplying there own materials, and do the work them selves, they just rent a chair of him,

u could employ a wc on self employment, if they supply there own van, water etc  and u just rent the round to them  for say 25 % of there takings,  that way u aint controling there hours,  its complicated, but if the tax man says that some one isnt self employed then they aint self employed, and u get screwed