i totaly understand that. i think this site could expand totaly in that direction. it just seems to me that very few people look back through achives and in 2 weeks the same question "what tools do i need to start" has come up 3 times. my fear is that i have typed a list, so has mike i think and others have. do i want to type it all again maybe not, if others think like that we end up with no replies and look like we dont offer the advice that we have in the past. so my point is that this could be stored elsewhere to save this. the other point is that there is manuals and pricing/ estimate programs out there amongst other usefull stuff all free. to have a list of stuff like this again would be handy to anyone new. believe me i said i would start for the only reason that now i am single again i have a few evening free to put towards this but if it could be incorpaerated here then great that would be even better
cheers
steve