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Title: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: simon w on February 27, 2021, 11:00:52 am
Having never owned a vehicle with an automatic gearbox and only really driven a few I'm after a bit of advice on whether this could prove problematic for what we use our vans for?

I'm looking at Ford Custom L2 320 panel van new or very new 19/20 plate and seeing that a lot have auto gear box's

Something like this    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202102149058056?postcode=bs169jb&sort=relevance&include-delivery-option=on&radius=1500&body-type=Panel%20Van&make=FORD&model=TRANSIT%20CUSTOM&keywords=320&advertising-location=at_vans&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&page=2

Any thoughts on pros or cons? I'm likely to keep the van for maximum 10 years 
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dazmond on February 27, 2021, 01:13:10 pm
Having never owned a vehicle with an automatic gearbox and only really driven a few I'm after a bit of advice on whether this could prove problematic for what we use our vans for?

I'm looking at Ford Custom L2 320 panel van new or very new 19/20 plate and seeing that a lot have auto gear box's

Something like this     https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202102149058056?postcode=bs166nh&sort=relevance&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_vans&body-type=Panel%20Van&make=FORD&model=TRANSIT%20CUSTOM&keywords=320&include-delivery-option=on&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&page=2

Any thoughts on pros or cons? I'm likely to keep the van for maximum 10 years

No idea with vans but I've just got a brand new golf GTD with an automatic DSG gearbox....I'm converted!absolutely love it......it feels much faster than the manual GTD I used to have but that's probably because the torque and hp are slightly higher....

It's the first vehicle I've had that's an automatic(VW dont do a manual option anymore)
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: EandM on February 27, 2021, 01:32:28 pm
Having never owned a vehicle with an automatic gearbox and only really driven a few I'm after a bit of advice on whether this could prove problematic for what we use our vans for?

I'm looking at Ford Custom L2 320 panel van new or very new 19/20 plate and seeing that a lot have auto gear box's

Something like this     https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202102149058056?postcode=bs166nh&sort=relevance&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_vans&body-type=Panel%20Van&make=FORD&model=TRANSIT%20CUSTOM&keywords=320&include-delivery-option=on&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&page=2

Any thoughts on pros or cons? I'm likely to keep the van for maximum 10 years

No idea with vans but I've just got a brand new golf GTD with an automatic DSG gearbox....I'm converted!absolutely love it......it feels much faster than the manual GTD I used to have but that's probably because the torque and hp are slightly higher....

It's the first vehicle I've had that's an automatic(VW dont do a manual option anymore)

DSG's are fine but they're technically automated manuals rather than autos as they lack a torque converter.

Transit autos seem ok. The 10 speed is better than the 6 and problems with them seem to be few.
There are some reports of shifting issues but it's likely to be a software issue rather than a mechanical one.

Best bet would be to go and test one and see what you think. Ideally, try a manual too and see which you prefer.

There's a long running debate on the Ranger forums between the two. They use the same engines and boxes as the Transit and It seems to be more personal preference than anything else.

I have seen autoboxes overheat and put the engine into limp mode when towing heavy loads but that's unlikely to be an issue in a Transit.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: tlwcs on February 27, 2021, 01:34:25 pm
VW Caddy dsg auto box
No issues does the same as a manual!
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: bravo20 on February 27, 2021, 03:04:34 pm
I have a transit connect with the auto box, absolutely fantastic.
Just do it, your left leg will thank you every day 😀
My main car is auto as well, have a couple of classics that are manual, but they're just for fun in summer so can cope with that.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: robbo333 on February 27, 2021, 04:33:14 pm
Mate of mine is a builder with a new Ranger pick up, manual. I asked him why he doesn't get auto and he said that the manual gives him more control when manoeuvring his trailer forward and back. Other than that, he would have got auto.

Personally, I love autos.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Splash & dash on February 27, 2021, 05:15:02 pm
I have just bought a new MAN TGE van that’s an auto much better than a Manuel especially when pulling away or reversing up steep slopes all my manual vans slip the clutch and you can smell it burning none of that with the auto it’s much smother as well but does  use a bit more fuel .
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Ched on February 27, 2021, 05:27:13 pm
There are autos and autos you really need to drive it to see how you like it. Years ago had a Renault auto as a hire car - it was so dangerous press throttle to pull onto roundabout and it could move off instantly or after 5 seconds just random!!! Then the next week had a C class merc and that auto was perfect - it always seemed to know what gear you needed before you needed it. A good few years later I bought a Merc C230 coupe with auto and loved it - had it about 8 years.

Research the reliability which should be fairly good these days.

Moral is test drive it with a good mix of driving and manoeuvring  on long test drive.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Mike Burd on February 27, 2021, 06:24:05 pm
When I drive a van it’s usually manual, but I drive auto cars and have an auto Ducato motorhome and would go for an auto van if the price was the same and I drive one every day. I’d never buy a manual car again.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: RPCCS on February 27, 2021, 06:54:23 pm
When I drive a van it’s usually manual, but I drive auto cars and have an auto Ducato motorhome and would go for an auto van if the price was the same and I drive one every day. I’d never buy a manual car again.
I'm like that now, I had a manual car about 12 years ago and the clutch went on it,it got repaired but was never right again do swapped it for same car but auto and loved it. Current car is also auto which is better for towing the caravan. If I could get an auto van I would.   O P would you go electric? I would get one but the areas I work in have no charging points. One is 19 miles the others are 8 ,10 and 15miles from home
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dazmond on February 27, 2021, 06:58:59 pm
the only thing that used to put me off autos years ago was i could never afford a vehicle that was new (or reasonably new)so i figured if an auto goes wrong it would cost a lot of money to get fixed so i avoided them like the plague......
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: wayne 77 on February 27, 2021, 07:10:27 pm
Having never owned a vehicle with an automatic gearbox and only really driven a few I'm after a bit of advice on whether this could prove problematic for what we use our vans for?

I'm looking at Ford Custom L2 320 panel van new or very new 19/20 plate and seeing that a lot have auto gear box's

Something like this    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202102149058056?postcode=bs169jb&sort=relevance&include-delivery-option=on&radius=1500&body-type=Panel%20Van&make=FORD&model=TRANSIT%20CUSTOM&keywords=320&advertising-location=at_vans&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&page=2

Any thoughts on pros or cons? I'm likely to keep the van for maximum 10 years
   
Ford Transit Custom 320 LWB Limited 2.0 EcoBlue 170ps FWD Auto 6 Speed
Our Price: £23,320.00 + VAT + RFL
NEW VAN
Just done a quick search found on happy new vans
Had Custom auto like driving a car lovely van
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on February 27, 2021, 07:32:37 pm
I’ll have an Auto next time round Van prices are silly and Auto ones are even more so.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on February 27, 2021, 07:35:58 pm
I have a Custom Sport Auto, I love it. Yes there is a very small delay in the gears changing if comparing it to the instant gear change of a performance car, but it is more than passable for a van. It makes driving in town so easy and effortless compared to a manual. I think the only issue with autos is the towing capacity, but I’m sure that doesn’t apply to you so I would say go for it, you won’t regret it. Both our cars are Auto as well, I would never go back to manual.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on February 27, 2021, 07:44:47 pm
The first Auto we owned was an Audi A6 2.0 litre with the multitronic auto box, it was great.......until it had to go in for a minor recall and the dealership very kindly/shrewdly gave us a 3.0 litre with tiptronic auto box as a courtesy car for the day, WOW, what a difference a good box can make, needless to say the A6 soon got chopped in for an SQ5 with the tiptronic box. There was method in their madness giving me that courtesy car🤑🤑
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on February 27, 2021, 08:03:13 pm
I’ll never buy another manual driving an Auto all the way to Scotland to stay in KSs bed for a few nights will be more comfortable for me 🛌
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on February 27, 2021, 08:15:52 pm
I’ll never buy another manual driving an Auto all the way to Scotland to stay in KSs bed for a few nights will be more comfortable for me 🛌
Remember n let me out of the bed before you climb in tho😲
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on February 27, 2021, 09:15:52 pm
They’ll be no North South divide between us when I come up there,I’ve had a word with my Mrs she has said she doesn’t mind sleeping in the shed for 1 night 🛌 💤 while we catch up and you show me the views.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: JandS on February 28, 2021, 02:29:49 pm
Dazmond......I've just bought a brand new VW......it has a manual gearbox........bought it in October so 70 plate.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: windowswashed on February 28, 2021, 03:02:34 pm
I had an automatic car once, yuck, give me a manual any day.  A manual keeps you more aware of your driving  :)
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on February 28, 2021, 04:12:22 pm
Automatic cars and vans have come on leaps and bounds even over the last few years,once you get into a decent auto I wouldn’t think you’d want to get out of one modern autos today change gear super smoothly you hardly know it’s changed gear.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Mike Burd on February 28, 2021, 04:40:55 pm
Automatic cars and vans have come on leaps and bounds even over the last few years,once you get into a decent auto I wouldn’t think you’d want to get out of one modern autos today change gear super smoothly you hardly know it’s changed gear.
I think that’s right. Once you’ve had your first auto, you wouldn’tget another manual.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dazmond on February 28, 2021, 06:03:53 pm
Dazmond......I've just bought a brand new VW......it has a manual gearbox........bought it in October so 70 plate.

it cant be a golf GTD mate....they dont do a manual option anymore in this model.....im glad too as i would of probably got a manual
if their was one available... :)
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dazmond on February 28, 2021, 06:09:39 pm
I had an automatic car once, yuck, give me a manual any day.  A manual keeps you more aware of your driving  :)

i guarantee id change your mind if you drove my automatic car......its phenomenal.....its so much fun to drive!i absolutely love it!
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: J Ryan on February 28, 2021, 07:22:46 pm
Slightly biased as I’ve been driving autos for 20 years, I can’t see the attraction of wiggling a stick around and constantly banging your left leg up and down, all you manual luddites will come over to the dark side soon whether you like or not, can’t get a manual electric van 😝
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on February 28, 2021, 07:54:51 pm
Yeah that’s right it’ll all be auto soon enough manual cars are getting cheaper the auto boxes are getting so much better no one wants one anymore.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: windowswashed on February 28, 2021, 08:58:05 pm
I had an automatic car once, yuck, give me a manual any day.  A manual keeps you more aware of your driving  :)

i guarantee id change your mind if you drove my automatic car......its phenomenal.....its so much fun to drive!i absolutely love it!

No thanks, stick with my manual bmw, happy with how it drives, like a rat up a drainpipe, they don't have indicators, no need for them  :)
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: JandS on March 01, 2021, 08:22:11 pm
Dazmond...........VOLKSWAGEN GOLF HAT 1.5TSI LIFE 5DR.......
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 01, 2021, 08:50:21 pm
Should have got a Tesla Daz if you want performance m8  not that you probably do lol,goodness me those things are silly quick.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dazmond on March 01, 2021, 10:20:54 pm
Dazmond...........VOLKSWAGEN GOLF HAT 1.5TSI LIFE 5DR.......

It's not a GTD then....😄....I only like the GTI/R/GTD versions of the golf....any other model just seems a bit mundane and boring to me......
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 01, 2021, 11:09:28 pm
Dazmond...........VOLKSWAGEN GOLF HAT 1.5TSI LIFE 5DR.......

It's not a GTD then....😄....I only like the GTI/R/GTD versions of the golf....any other model just seems a bit mundane and boring to me......
Subtle as a brick😂
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 02, 2021, 12:13:45 pm
I went out in one of them Daz very comfortable sent me to sleep 🤣🤣🤣🤣🥲🤣
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: STEVE-UK on March 03, 2021, 09:45:24 am
I went auto last year as the juddering from these new dual mass flywheels was starting to bug me

I went for a Vito sport 119 auto, remapped to 250bhp, what a great van to drive! definitely the best I've owned, its so car car like to drive, fully loaded with flappy paddle, auto parking , reversing up hill is so smooth!
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 03, 2021, 10:52:59 am
I know what you mean Steve so comfortable in reverse I just drive it like that now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 who cares how comfortable it is in reverse then lol.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Stoots on March 03, 2021, 11:30:25 am
 If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 03, 2021, 11:43:50 am
Forget that Stoots m8 a Tesla will smoke any bike go on YouTube and have a look. 
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Splash & dash on March 03, 2021, 12:00:36 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.



No all the latest sports cars are auto I have an Audi SQ5 8 speed auto 400 bhp and it’s much quicker than a manual and will give most bike a good run for  money  I have had big bikes in the past , Suzuki  GSXR 750 , hayabusa , most BMW sports cars are auto I have had , M3,M4,M5 all autos
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 03, 2021, 01:35:13 pm
Test drove an M2 and M4 the M2 was much better S55 engine the Auto boxes on them are second to none.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Ste b on March 03, 2021, 01:43:57 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.



No all the latest sports cars are auto I have an Audi SQ5 8 speed auto 400 bhp and it’s much quicker than a manual and will give most bike a good run for  money  I have had big bikes in the past , Suzuki  GSXR 750 , hayabusa , most BMW sports cars are auto I have had , M3,M4,M5 all autos


Lee is that you......   





only kidding 😀
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Stoots on March 03, 2021, 02:34:47 pm
Forget that Stoots m8 a Tesla will smoke any bike go on YouTube and have a look.

Perhaps, but not by much and im talking about bang for buck.

It would take a lot of money in a car to beat a bike thats worth a grand.

Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Splash & dash on March 03, 2021, 02:43:53 pm
Forget that Stoots m8 a Tesla will smoke any bike go on YouTube and have a look.

Perhaps, but not by much and im talking about bang for buck.

It would take a lot of money in a car to beat a bike thats worth a grand.



But you cannot fall off a car 😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 03, 2021, 02:51:09 pm
I agree for a couple 1000 you can get super car performance with a bike but you can pay 20000 for a bike and still get wet,bikes have also come on massively most deaths are people returning to a bike some 20 years later they are night and day in performance in stock form.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 03, 2021, 03:11:48 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.



No all the latest sports cars are auto I have an Audi SQ5 8 speed auto 400 bhp and it’s much quicker than a manual and will give most bike a good run for  money  I have had big bikes in the past , Suzuki  GSXR 750 , hayabusa , most BMW sports cars are auto I have had , M3,M4,M5 all autos
I’ve had the 4.0 V8 M3 auto, great sound off it but found that the interior let it down, currently have an M4 auto, big improvement interior wise but I do miss the grunt of that V8. None of them are the quickest off the mark as they’re not 4 wheel drive. Wife has X4 M40i, with it being 4 wheel drive I actually find it quicker off the mark, but definitely not as much fun to drive as the M4.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Splash & dash on March 03, 2021, 03:21:19 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.



No all the latest sports cars are auto I have an Audi SQ5 8 speed auto 400 bhp and it’s much quicker than a manual and will give most bike a good run for  money  I have had big bikes in the past , Suzuki  GSXR 750 , hayabusa , most BMW sports cars are auto I have had , M3,M4,M5 all autos
I’ve had the 4.0 V8 M3 auto, great sound off it but found that the interior let it down, currently have an M4 auto, big improvement interior wise but I do miss the grunt of that V8. None of them are the quickest off the mark as they’re not 4 wheel drive. Wife has X4 M40i, with it being 4 wheel drive I actually find it quicker off the mark, but definitely not as much fun to drive as the M4.



I have had BMW for years but felt the latest ones the interiors were no better than a ford , that’s why I bought the Audi SQ5 it’s build quality is head and shoulders above BMW , and it’s 4  wheel drive  system is so smooth , I hate to say it as I love BMW but think the Audi are much better car .
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 03, 2021, 03:36:20 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.



No all the latest sports cars are auto I have an Audi SQ5 8 speed auto 400 bhp and it’s much quicker than a manual and will give most bike a good run for  money  I have had big bikes in the past , Suzuki  GSXR 750 , hayabusa , most BMW sports cars are auto I have had , M3,M4,M5 all autos
I’ve had the 4.0 V8 M3 auto, great sound off it but found that the interior let it down, currently have an M4 auto, big improvement interior wise but I do miss the grunt of that V8. None of them are the quickest off the mark as they’re not 4 wheel drive. Wife has X4 M40i, with it being 4 wheel drive I actually find it quicker off the mark, but definitely not as much fun to drive as the M4.



I have had BMW for years but felt the latest ones the interiors were no better than a ford , that’s why I bought the Audi SQ5 it’s build quality is head and shoulders above BMW , and it’s 4  wheel drive  system is so smooth , I hate to say it as I love BMW but think the Audi are much better car .
I think it comes down to personal choice between the two.  Wife had an SQ5 when it was the diesel version, chopped it in in 2018 for a BMW 530d as around that time the SQ5 had changed to a petrol version for the UK market, I believe it’s  reverted back to diesel again?
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 03, 2021, 03:50:25 pm
I test drove the M4  comp and it didn’t do it for me I felt it was too big I took an M2 out and I was impressed it  felt like a totally different car much more nimble to drive,I’m more swayed towards Audi now being 4 wheel drive and the interiors are night and day over the BMW.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Splash & dash on March 03, 2021, 04:01:45 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.



No all the latest sports cars are auto I have an Audi SQ5 8 speed auto 400 bhp and it’s much quicker than a manual and will give most bike a good run for  money  I have had big bikes in the past , Suzuki  GSXR 750 , hayabusa , most BMW sports cars are auto I have had , M3,M4,M5 all autos
I’ve had the 4.0 V8 M3 auto, great sound off it but found that the interior let it down, currently have an M4 auto, big improvement interior wise but I do miss the grunt of that V8. None of them are the quickest off the mark as they’re not 4 wheel drive. Wife has X4 M40i, with it being 4 wheel drive I actually find it quicker off the mark, but definitely not as much fun to drive as the M4.



I have had BMW for years but felt the latest ones the interiors were no better than a ford , that’s why I bought the Audi SQ5 it’s build quality is head and shoulders above BMW , and it’s 4  wheel drive  system is so smooth , I hate to say it as I love BMW but think the Audi are much better car .
I think it comes down to personal choice between the two.  Wife had an SQ5 when it was the diesel version, chopped it in in 2018 for a BMW 530d as around that time the SQ5 had changed to a petrol version for the UK market, I believe it’s  reverted back to diesel again?


Had mine new in 2016 it’s a diesel , I test drive the petrol but didn’t like it and decided to stick with the diesel , Ime very reluctant to spend money on another diesel car at this time with the change over to  electric  not that I want electric , but feel that non electric cars will loose value very quickly  or be taxed very heavily by the government trying to force us to go that way , so will stick with what I have for now , if it wasn’t for this electric business I would get a Q7 , but not going to risk spending 60-75 k on a car at this time . Been looking at the tesler 4x4  but the range is poor and it’s huge money   
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 03, 2021, 04:15:17 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.



No all the latest sports cars are auto I have an Audi SQ5 8 speed auto 400 bhp and it’s much quicker than a manual and will give most bike a good run for  money  I have had big bikes in the past , Suzuki  GSXR 750 , hayabusa , most BMW sports cars are auto I have had , M3,M4,M5 all autos
I’ve had the 4.0 V8 M3 auto, great sound off it but found that the interior let it down, currently have an M4 auto, big improvement interior wise but I do miss the grunt of that V8. None of them are the quickest off the mark as they’re not 4 wheel drive. Wife has X4 M40i, with it being 4 wheel drive I actually find it quicker off the mark, but definitely not as much fun to drive as the M4.



I have had BMW for years but felt the latest ones the interiors were no better than a ford , that’s why I bought the Audi SQ5 it’s build quality is head and shoulders above BMW , and it’s 4  wheel drive  system is so smooth , I hate to say it as I love BMW but think the Audi are much better car .
I think it comes down to personal choice between the two.  Wife had an SQ5 when it was the diesel version, chopped it in in 2018 for a BMW 530d as around that time the SQ5 had changed to a petrol version for the UK market, I believe it’s  reverted back to diesel again?


Had mine new in 2016 it’s a diesel , I test drive the petrol but didn’t like it and decided to stick with the diesel , Ime very reluctant to spend money on another diesel car at this time with the change over to  electric  not that I want electric , but feel that non electric cars will loose value very quickly  or be taxed very heavily by the government trying to force us to go that way , so will stick with what I have for now , if it wasn’t for this electric business I would get a Q7 , but not going to risk spending 60-75 k on a car at this time . Been looking at the tesler 4x4  but the range is poor and it’s huge money
I take it you’ve had it remapped? My wife’s was a 2015 and from memory it was around 310bhp?
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 03, 2021, 04:26:12 pm
I test drove the M4  comp and it didn’t do it for me I felt it was too big I took an M2 out and I was impressed it  felt like a totally different car much more nimble to drive,I’m more swayed towards Audi now being 4 wheel drive and the interiors are night and day over the BMW.
Pocket rockets will be a bit more nimble, I had an Audi S3 about 8 years ago. I prefer the body lines of the M4 over the Audi S5, IMO it’s harder to distinguish between an A5 and S5, whereas the M4 upgrades over the 4 series can be easily identified. Anyway we are in danger of this thread being chucked over to a different section........let’s talk windies😁
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Smudger on March 03, 2021, 04:34:14 pm
I have a mini 1000 - thats quite quick !


Darran ;D
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Splash & dash on March 03, 2021, 04:43:55 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.



No all the latest sports cars are auto I have an Audi SQ5 8 speed auto 400 bhp and it’s much quicker than a manual and will give most bike a good run for  money  I have had big bikes in the past , Suzuki  GSXR 750 , hayabusa , most BMW sports cars are auto I have had , M3,M4,M5 all autos
I’ve had the 4.0 V8 M3 auto, great sound off it but found that the interior let it down, currently have an M4 auto, big improvement interior wise but I do miss the grunt of that V8. None of them are the quickest off the mark as they’re not 4 wheel drive. Wife has X4 M40i, with it being 4 wheel drive I actually find it quicker off the mark, but definitely not as much fun to drive as the M4.



I have had BMW for years but felt the latest ones the interiors were no better than a ford , that’s why I bought the Audi SQ5 it’s build quality is head and shoulders above BMW , and it’s 4  wheel drive  system is so smooth , I hate to say it as I love BMW but think the Audi are much better car .
I think it comes down to personal choice between the two.  Wife had an SQ5 when it was the diesel version, chopped it in in 2018 for a BMW 530d as around that time the SQ5 had changed to a petrol version for the UK market, I believe it’s  reverted back to diesel again?


Had mine new in 2016 it’s a diesel , I test drive the petrol but didn’t like it and decided to stick with the diesel , Ime very reluctant to spend money on another diesel car at this time with the change over to  electric  not that I want electric , but feel that non electric cars will loose value very quickly  or be taxed very heavily by the government trying to force us to go that way , so will stick with what I have for now , if it wasn’t for this electric business I would get a Q7 , but not going to risk spending 60-75 k on a car at this time . Been looking at the tesler 4x4  but the range is poor and it’s huge money
I take it you’ve had it remapped? My wife’s was a 2015 and from memory it was around 310bhp?


Yes mine was 340 from the factory  had a mild re map  to 400 think by changing the turbos and a difference re map you can get well over 500 from what the tuners said , the gearbox is actually able to cope with it something that’s unusual theses days .
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 03, 2021, 04:45:49 pm
I have a mini 1000 - thats quite quick !


Darran ;D
Takes me back to when I was a youngster and at auction I bought what I thought was a mini 1275GT.......turns out the only thing 1275GT about it was the badge🤣🤣 in reality it was a 1000😖
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Smudger on March 03, 2021, 05:30:02 pm
First mini cost me £60 - turned out under the mat it had not floor  ;D ;D

got the last laugh tho, it had a rare Cooper 997 engine in it and that got me £600

then had a clubman and squeezed in a 1400 metro turbo engine - ahhh... them were days when you could tinker with cars...

Darran
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dazmond on March 03, 2021, 06:01:47 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.

if your a boy racer like me then an auto is much more fun  and faster than a manual.....cant stand motorbikes...i know too many guys that have died on them over the years..... :(
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Smudger on March 03, 2021, 07:06:58 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.

if your a boy racer like me then an auto is much more fun  and faster than a manual.....cant stand motorbikes...i know too many guys that have died on them over the years..... :(


leave it out Daz - your like me - middle aged - there comes a time a tarts car like a golf GTI (ETC) is confined to the younger generation  ;D

Get a mans car !

Darran
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: windowswashed on March 03, 2021, 07:28:08 pm
Bet my Vito work van goes faster than Daz's Golf, it's been modified a few times and it's fun when some youngsters try cutting in on me and I make them worker harder to overtake  ;D the young rebellious nature comes out sometimes, more fun than growing up and being an adult.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dazmond on March 03, 2021, 07:35:51 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.

if your a boy racer like me then an auto is much more fun  and faster than a manual.....cant stand motorbikes...i know too many guys that have died on them over the years..... :(


leave it out Daz - your like me - middle aged - there comes a time a tarts car like a golf GTI (ETC) is confined to the younger generation  ;D

Get a mans car !

Darran

absolutely not!im only 49!.....us men never grow up!THANK GOD!! :D
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Stoots on March 03, 2021, 07:41:50 pm
If you want fast just get a motorbike.

My street triple 675 will do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, its great fun smoking 100k sports cars off the lights on a 5k bike 😂. And as far as bikes go mines only a middleweight...

Ive had auto cars and for most people they make total sense unless you are a bit of a boy racer at heart then you will want a manual...

As for electric cars, no chance if it doesnt produce noise and smoke it's not a real machine.

if your a boy racer like me then an auto is much more fun  and faster than a manual.....cant stand motorbikes...i know too many guys that have died on them over the years..... :(

Yes they are dangerous.

I only passed my test less than 2 years ago and already been taken out once by a car, pulled out on me. Luckily i managed to break to about 30mph before impact and did a really good commando roll across the bonnet. Knee was bad for about 6 months but seems to have recovered.

Im way more cautious now especially in built up areas and ride more defensively but that said there is always the odd moment of madness with a twist of the throttle  ;D

Going to get some track days in this year hopefully if we get back to normal, should improve my riding   


Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dazmond on March 03, 2021, 08:02:26 pm
Bet my Vito work van goes faster than Daz's Golf, it's been modified a few times and it's fun when some youngsters try cutting in on me and I make them worker harder to overtake  ;D the young rebellious nature comes out sometimes, more fun than growing up and being an adult.

I overtook a 57 plate mondeo st220 yesterday and he tried to stop me overtaking him  by putting his foot to the floor!the tool!he didnt succeed......i was laughing my head off when i looked in my rear view mirror at some lights further down the road...he wasnt happy! ;D ;D

im not saying my golf is the fastest car on the road but 0-62 in 7 seconds is plenty fast enough for me....400nm of torque and 200 bhp and the automatic gearbox makes it so much fun and its easy to overtake the sunday drivers on the road... :)
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: EandM on March 03, 2021, 09:06:37 pm
Bet my Vito work van goes faster than Daz's Golf, it's been modified a few times and it's fun when some youngsters try cutting in on me and I make them worker harder to overtake  ;D the young rebellious nature comes out sometimes, more fun than growing up and being an adult.

I overtook a 57 plate mondeo st220 yesterday and he tried to stop me overtaking him  by putting his foot to the floor!the tool!he didnt succeed......i was laughing my head off when i looked in my rear view mirror at some lights further down the road...he wasnt happy! ;D ;D

im not saying my golf is the fastest car on the road but 0-62 in 7 seconds is plenty fast enough for me....400nm of torque and 200 bhp and the automatic gearbox makes it so much fun and its easy to overtake the sunday drivers on the road... :)

That's interesting and would make a great comparison test.

The ST220 has 25 more bhp and weighs nearly 200 kg less.
0-60 is quoted at 6.5 seconds for the Mondeo and 7.1 for the Golf.

Even allowing for the Golf having an additional 75 lb ft of torque I have to ask, was the ST driver asleep?

Not knocking either: both very nice cars.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 03, 2021, 09:10:28 pm
6-7 seconds to 60mph come on lads that’s so 1990s 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 03, 2021, 09:17:02 pm
Bet my Vito work van goes faster than Daz's Golf, it's been modified a few times and it's fun when some youngsters try cutting in on me and I make them worker harder to overtake  ;D the young rebellious nature comes out sometimes, more fun than growing up and being an adult.

I overtook a 57 plate mondeo st220 yesterday and he tried to stop me overtaking him  by putting his foot to the floor!the tool!he didnt succeed......i was laughing my head off when i looked in my rear view mirror at some lights further down the road...he wasnt happy! ;D ;D

im not saying my golf is the fastest car on the road but 0-62 in 7 seconds is plenty fast enough for me....400nm of torque and 200 bhp and the automatic gearbox makes it so much fun and its easy to overtake the sunday drivers on the road... :)

That's interesting and would make a great comparison test.

The ST220 has 25 more bhp and weighs nearly 200 kg less.
0-60 is quoted at 6.5 seconds for the Mondeo and 7.1 for the Golf.

Even allowing for the Golf having an additional 75 lb ft of torque I have to ask, was the ST driver asleep?

Not knocking either: both very nice cars.
Daz decided to omit the fact that the ST 220 was towing a caravan at the time😁
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: EandM on March 03, 2021, 09:29:43 pm
6-7 seconds to 60mph come on lads that’s so 1990s 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

:)

6.7 seconds from a naturally aspirated Ford is more 2000's.

The 90's were just getting into the sevens.
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Post by: Stoots on March 03, 2021, 09:55:28 pm
The st220 was a dream car as a lad  :D

Best car i ever had was a 1990 series 2 escort rs turbo.

I bought it for 2 grand in about 2001 and spent thousands modifying the engine and cranking the boost up, it was 180bhp and felt like a rocket. Torque steer was ridiculous.

Eventually sold it after the head gasket blew at 130 mph racing an orion ghia on the m62.  Me and my mate were mechanics and had managed to cross thread one of the head bolts which gave way.


I also had an st24, fiesta xr2i.. I was very much a blue oval fan.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 03, 2021, 10:22:46 pm
Great cars back in the 90s the RS turbo was a m8 of mine had one done a fair bit to it  around the same sort of HP,I can remember him booting it home one night parking up opening the  bonnet and telling me to look at the turbo glowing orange you could almost get a tan from it lol.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dazmond on March 04, 2021, 08:34:50 am
Bet my Vito work van goes faster than Daz's Golf, it's been modified a few times and it's fun when some youngsters try cutting in on me and I make them worker harder to overtake  ;D the young rebellious nature comes out sometimes, more fun than growing up and being an adult.

I overtook a 57 plate mondeo st220 yesterday and he tried to stop me overtaking him  by putting his foot to the floor!the tool!he didnt succeed......i was laughing my head off when i looked in my rear view mirror at some lights further down the road...he wasnt happy! ;D ;D

im not saying my golf is the fastest car on the road but 0-62 in 7 seconds is plenty fast enough for me....400nm of torque and 200 bhp and the automatic gearbox makes it so much fun and its easy to overtake the sunday drivers on the road... :)

That's interesting and would make a great comparison test.

The ST220 has 25 more bhp and weighs nearly 200 kg less.
0-60 is quoted at 6.5 seconds for the Mondeo and 7.1 for the Golf.

Even allowing for the Golf having an additional 75 lb ft of torque I have to ask, was the ST driver asleep?

Not knocking either: both very nice cars.

Its probably because his st220 was 14 years old and a manual

I doubt his mondeo is lighter than my golf!
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 04, 2021, 09:20:02 am
I would definitely remap that Golf it would be night and day,Audi over an M for remapping £1000 gets you another 70-80hp to nearly 480bhp from stock in an hour if you try and get that out of an M2 it’s loads of cash and you can put the power down with the Audi. Should have got an RS3 Daz,eat you’re Golf like a peanut.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 04, 2021, 03:19:03 pm
I would definitely remap that Golf it would be night and day,Audi over an M for remapping £1000 gets you another 70-80hp to nearly 480bhp from stock in an hour if you try and get that out of an M2 it’s loads of cash and you can put the power down with the Audi. Should have got an RS3 Daz,eat you’re Golf like a peanut.
Don’t think he can, it’s leased and would void any warranty.
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Post by: NWH on March 04, 2021, 04:52:17 pm
Yeah it probably would do but some deals will allow it I’ve heard I drove the M2 in the dry it was lovely I went to another dealer and a Hokenheim silver one was out the back properly written off lol,when you looked from front to back the back wheels were a foot inside the front I said to the bloke what happened there then he said it was probably wet when he did this lol,they are a waste of time in the wet unless it’s 5 or 8 series with 4 wheel drive that’s why I fancy the Audi.
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Post by: Mike Burd on March 04, 2021, 04:53:36 pm
Yeah it probably would do but some deals will allow it I’ve heard I drove the M2 in the dry it was lovely I went to another dealer and a Hokenheim silver one was out the back properly written off lol,when you looked from front to back the back wheels were a foot inside the front I said to the bloke what happened there then he said it was probably wet when he did this lol,they are a waste of time in the wet unless it’s 5 or 8 series with 4 wheel drive that’s why I fancy the Audi.
And breathe!
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Post by: dazmond on March 04, 2021, 06:31:54 pm
I would definitely remap that Golf it would be night and day,Audi over an M for remapping £1000 gets you another 70-80hp to nearly 480bhp from stock in an hour if you try and get that out of an M2 it’s loads of cash and you can put the power down with the Audi. Should have got an RS3 Daz,eat you’re Golf like a peanut.

absolutely no need at all...the golf is fine as it is....it still pulls you back in your seat!im really impressed with the acceleration.....the S 3s are just ridiculously expensive brand new and the boots are not as big(for my drums when we start gigging again).....
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Post by: zesty on March 04, 2021, 07:02:17 pm
I would definitely remap that Golf it would be night and day,Audi over an M for remapping £1000 gets you another 70-80hp to nearly 480bhp from stock in an hour if you try and get that out of an M2 it’s loads of cash and you can put the power down with the Audi. Should have got an RS3 Daz,eat you’re Golf like a peanut.

absolutely no need at all...the golf is fine as it is....it still pulls you back in your seat!im really impressed with the acceleration.....the S 3s are just ridiculously expensive brand new and the boots are not as big(for my drums when we start gigging again).....

Currently we’ve got a BMW m140i on a stage 1 map, running 420bhp and 600nm of torque, now that kicks you in the seat like anything!

I’m thinking of selling it soon, looking at getting a kit car from MK sports cars as they only down the road from me. Track days etc will be fun in one.

The beemer is so unbelievably fast it’s almost unusable. In fact I had more fun in my Ibiza gti cupras, mx5’s etc when in early 20’s.

The beemer is just too quick on the road.

The noise though, the straight 6 turbo is a beaut. Fastest car I’ve had and been in, it’s lightning quick, leaves m2’s for dead. Although I’d rather have an m2  ;D

The B58 engine in my M140i is one of the best engines around,it’s in several new M cars as well as the new supra. The stock engine can hold 500bhp tunes with ease. Some kit!

These days anything in the 6-7 second to 60 bracket is slow... but I get it’s still fun Daz.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 04, 2021, 07:42:48 pm
I still like the M2 and as you say the M140 is a quick car but it’s not an M2 especially on the bendy bits,the first thing I’d do to the M2Comp is change to Miltec or similar that cows udder let’s it down big time from the rear.
If they were 4 wheel drive there would be a waiting list for em.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 04, 2021, 07:59:15 pm
I would definitely remap that Golf it would be night and day,Audi over an M for remapping £1000 gets you another 70-80hp to nearly 480bhp from stock in an hour if you try and get that out of an M2 it’s loads of cash and you can put the power down with the Audi. Should have got an RS3 Daz,eat you’re Golf like a peanut.

absolutely no need at all...the golf is fine as it is....it still pulls you back in your seat!im really impressed with the acceleration.....the S 3s are just ridiculously expensive brand new and the boots are not as big(for my drums when we start gigging again).....

Currently we’ve got a BMW m140i on a stage 1 map, running 420bhp and 600nm of torque, now that kicks you in the seat like anything!

I’m thinking of selling it soon, looking at getting a kit car from MK sports cars as they only down the road from me. Track days etc will be fun in one.

The beemer is so unbelievably fast it’s almost unusable. In fact I had more fun in my Ibiza gti cupras, mx5’s etc when in early 20’s.

The beemer is just too quick on the road.

The noise though, the straight 6 turbo is a beaut. Fastest car I’ve had and been in, it’s lightning quick, leaves m2’s for dead. Although I’d rather have an m2  ;D

The B58 engine in my M140i is one of the best engines around,it’s in several new M cars as well as the new supra. The stock engine can hold 500bhp tunes with ease. Some kit!

These days anything in the 6-7 second to 60 bracket is slow... but I get it’s still fun Daz.
That’s the engine my wife’s car uses, being the X4 it will be quite heavy but still manages 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I’d imagine the smaller lighter 140i even as standard would be quicker still.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 04, 2021, 08:17:35 pm
The trouble with the M140s is although a very capable car they are a bit like rain you see it everywhere you go,unless it’s a shadow line with a bit of tasteful carbon on it you don’t give em a second glance lol M2s are crashing in price at the mo you can pick a 20 plate up from Park Lane for under 45 I think I saw.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: EandM on March 04, 2021, 08:34:39 pm
Bet my Vito work van goes faster than Daz's Golf, it's been modified a few times and it's fun when some youngsters try cutting in on me and I make them worker harder to overtake  ;D the young rebellious nature comes out sometimes, more fun than growing up and being an adult.

I overtook a 57 plate mondeo st220 yesterday and he tried to stop me overtaking him  by putting his foot to the floor!the tool!he didnt succeed......i was laughing my head off when i looked in my rear view mirror at some lights further down the road...he wasnt happy! ;D ;D

im not saying my golf is the fastest car on the road but 0-62 in 7 seconds is plenty fast enough for me....400nm of torque and 200 bhp and the automatic gearbox makes it so much fun and its easy to overtake the sunday drivers on the road... :)

That's interesting and would make a great comparison test.

The ST220 has 25 more bhp and weighs nearly 200 kg less.
0-60 is quoted at 6.5 seconds for the Mondeo and 7.1 for the Golf.

Even allowing for the Golf having an additional 75 lb ft of torque I have to ask, was the ST driver asleep?

Not knocking either: both very nice cars.

Its probably because his st220 was 14 years old and a manual

I doubt his mondeo is lighter than my golf!

It's difficult to get an exact kg figure for the ST due to its age. Anything from 1200-1550 is quoted, according to spec but the norm  seems to be broadly the same as the Golf which is, according to various sources, 1465 kg.

Modern cars are very lardy and that's not a bad thing. If I had to crash I'd much rather be in the Golf than the Mondeo.

The Golf looks to be sub 7 second to 60 which is brilliant for its dieselness and mpg.
If it were rear wheel drive it would be in the low sixes.
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Post by: zesty on March 04, 2021, 09:27:19 pm
The trouble with the M140s is although a very capable car they are a bit like rain you see it everywhere you go,unless it’s a shadow line with a bit of tasteful carbon on it you don’t give em a second glance lol M2s are crashing in price at the mo you can pick a 20 plate up from Park Lane for under 45 I think I saw.

Mines a shadow edition, looks good. Estriol blue.

Leaves M2’s for dead, but having driven an M2 I’d enjoy it more than the 140, but then the M2 is a full fat M car.

We needed a five door, so the 140 with the amazing zf 8 speed auto box suited our needs...

It promotes itself to casual driving, but when you stick your foot down it’s an absolute animal.

Yeah they aren’t exactly rare, but then again all hot hatches are common these days, even the M2 isn’t exactly a rare site these days...
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: zesty on March 04, 2021, 09:31:06 pm
I would definitely remap that Golf it would be night and day,Audi over an M for remapping £1000 gets you another 70-80hp to nearly 480bhp from stock in an hour if you try and get that out of an M2 it’s loads of cash and you can put the power down with the Audi. Should have got an RS3 Daz,eat you’re Golf like a peanut.

absolutely no need at all...the golf is fine as it is....it still pulls you back in your seat!im really impressed with the acceleration.....the S 3s are just ridiculously expensive brand new and the boots are not as big(for my drums when we start gigging again).....

Currently we’ve got a BMW m140i on a stage 1 map, running 420bhp and 600nm of torque, now that kicks you in the seat like anything!

I’m thinking of selling it soon, looking at getting a kit car from MK sports cars as they only down the road from me. Track days etc will be fun in one.

The beemer is so unbelievably fast it’s almost unusable. In fact I had more fun in my Ibiza gti cupras, mx5’s etc when in early 20’s.

The beemer is just too quick on the road.

The noise though, the straight 6 turbo is a beaut. Fastest car I’ve had and been in, it’s lightning quick, leaves m2’s for dead. Although I’d rather have an m2  ;D

The B58 engine in my M140i is one of the best engines around,it’s in several new M cars as well as the new supra. The stock engine can hold 500bhp tunes with ease. Some kit!

These days anything in the 6-7 second to 60 bracket is slow... but I get it’s still fun Daz.
That’s the engine my wife’s car uses, being the X4 it will be quite heavy but still manages 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I’d imagine the smaller lighter 140i even as standard would be quicker still.

Yes mate, you’re talking 3.5-4 seconds in the m140i if, and it’s a big if, you can get the traction, which only event happens once a year. There is way too much tourque to launch perfectly. Usually doing the 4.8’s to 60 in mine. Using a timing app.

It’s 40-100 that’s mind blowing. It’s just so rapid it’s almost unbelievable. We have had the stage 1 map though. Stock 140’s run around 350bhp.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dazmond on March 04, 2021, 09:39:44 pm
Personally I dont think there is anything lardy about my golf 8 GTD....I've had the mk 7.5  GTD and a mk 5 GTI before that..this is the most fun to drive by a country mile and has the same lowered suspension as the golf 8 GTI......Its like driving a fast go kart!😄

It's got plenty of power for me and it's great on fuel and is the cleanest diesel golf ever made with enough room for my drum kit in the back.....the cockpit is so different than the previous generation golfs  though..virtually no buttons...everything's touch screen....I like it......
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: zesty on March 04, 2021, 09:48:37 pm
Personally I dont think there is anything lardy about my golf 8 GTD....I've had the mk 7.5  GTD and a mk 5 GTI before that..this is the most fun to drive by a country mile and has the same lowered suspension as the golf 8 GTI......Its like driving a fast go kart!😄

It's got plenty of power for me and it's great on fuel and is the cleanest diesel golf ever made with enough room for my drum kit in the back.....the cockpit is so different than the previous generation golfs  though..virtually no buttons...everything's touch screen....I like it......

You’ll change your mind once got hear to sweet sound of a 6 cylinder beemer mate  ;D

Horses for courses mate, enjoy it 👍🏼
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: EandM on March 04, 2021, 10:11:21 pm
Personally I dont think there is anything lardy about my golf 8 GTD....I've had the mk 7.5  GTD and a mk 5 GTI before that..this is the most fun to drive by a country mile and has the same lowered suspension as the golf 8 GTI......Its like driving a fast go kart!😄

It's got plenty of power for me and it's great on fuel and is the cleanest diesel golf ever made with enough room for my drum kit in the back.....the cockpit is so different than the previous generation golfs  though..virtually no buttons...everything's touch screen....I like it......

All new cars are LARDY.

The original Golf GTI weighed 832 kg.
The current Golf GTI is nearly double that.

My 2002 Ford Ranger is 1,800 kg.
The current version (same model spec) is 2,100 kg.

It's an indication of just how far we've come in terms of safety.
The fact that mpg is drastically improved is an indication of how far fuel tech has come.

It's not a bad thing.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 04, 2021, 10:34:53 pm
I would definitely remap that Golf it would be night and day,Audi over an M for remapping £1000 gets you another 70-80hp to nearly 480bhp from stock in an hour if you try and get that out of an M2 it’s loads of cash and you can put the power down with the Audi. Should have got an RS3 Daz,eat you’re Golf like a peanut.

absolutely no need at all...the golf is fine as it is....it still pulls you back in your seat!im really impressed with the acceleration.....the S 3s are just ridiculously expensive brand new and the boots are not as big(for my drums when we start gigging again).....

Currently we’ve got a BMW m140i on a stage 1 map, running 420bhp and 600nm of torque, now that kicks you in the seat like anything!

I’m thinking of selling it soon, looking at getting a kit car from MK sports cars as they only down the road from me. Track days etc will be fun in one.

The beemer is so unbelievably fast it’s almost unusable. In fact I had more fun in my Ibiza gti cupras, mx5’s etc when in early 20’s.

The beemer is just too quick on the road.

The noise though, the straight 6 turbo is a beaut. Fastest car I’ve had and been in, it’s lightning quick, leaves m2’s for dead. Although I’d rather have an m2  ;D

The B58 engine in my M140i is one of the best engines around,it’s in several new M cars as well as the new supra. The stock engine can hold 500bhp tunes with ease. Some kit!

These days anything in the 6-7 second to 60 bracket is slow... but I get it’s still fun Daz.
That’s the engine my wife’s car uses, being the X4 it will be quite heavy but still manages 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I’d imagine the smaller lighter 140i even as standard would be quicker still.

Yes mate, you’re talking 3.5-4 seconds in the m140i if, and it’s a big if, you can get the traction, which only event happens once a year. There is way too much tourque to launch perfectly. Usually doing the 4.8’s to 60 in mine. Using a timing app.

It’s 40-100 that’s mind blowing. It’s just so rapid it’s almost unbelievable. We have had the stage 1 map though. Stock 140’s run around 350bhp.
I know what you mean,  I’ve got an M4 and as you say the traction off the spot just isn’t there, there’s only so much power you can use from a standing start......plus tyres aren’t cheap!! but put the foot down when you’re sitting at 30-40 and it certainly puts a smile on your face.
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Post by: NWH on March 04, 2021, 11:01:43 pm
Audi RS 5 cylinder 👌
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Post by: Splash & dash on March 04, 2021, 11:25:07 pm
I would definitely remap that Golf it would be night and day,Audi over an M for remapping £1000 gets you another 70-80hp to nearly 480bhp from stock in an hour if you try and get that out of an M2 it’s loads of cash and you can put the power down with the Audi. Should have got an RS3 Daz,eat you’re Golf like a peanut.

absolutely no need at all...the golf is fine as it is....it still pulls you back in your seat!im really impressed with the acceleration.....the S 3s are just ridiculously expensive brand new and the boots are not as big(for my drums when we start gigging again).....

Currently we’ve got a BMW m140i on a stage 1 map, running 420bhp and 600nm of torque, now that kicks you in the seat like anything!

I’m thinking of selling it soon, looking at getting a kit car from MK sports cars as they only down the road from me. Track days etc will be fun in one.

The beemer is so unbelievably fast it’s almost unusable. In fact I had more fun in my Ibiza gti cupras, mx5’s etc when in early 20’s.

The beemer is just too quick on the road.

The noise though, the straight 6 turbo is a beaut. Fastest car I’ve had and been in, it’s lightning quick, leaves m2’s for dead. Although I’d rather have an m2  ;D

The B58 engine in my M140i is one of the best engines around,it’s in several new M cars as well as the new supra. The stock engine can hold 500bhp tunes with ease. Some kit!

These days anything in the 6-7 second to 60 bracket is slow... but I get it’s still fun Daz.
That’s the engine my wife’s car uses, being the X4 it will be quite heavy but still manages 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I’d imagine the smaller lighter 140i even as standard would be quicker still.

Yes mate, you’re talking 3.5-4 seconds in the m140i if, and it’s a big if, you can get the traction, which only event happens once a year. There is way too much tourque to launch perfectly. Usually doing the 4.8’s to 60 in mine. Using a timing app.

It’s 40-100 that’s mind blowing. It’s just so rapid it’s almost unbelievable. We have had the stage 1 map though. Stock 140’s run around 350bhp.
I know what you mean,  I’ve got an M4 and as you say the traction off the spot just isn’t there, there’s only so much power you can use from a standing start......plus tyres aren’t cheap!! but put the foot down when you’re sitting at 30-40 and it certainly puts a smile on your face.


Another reason to get an Audi 4 wheel drive  no wheel spin just flat out off the mark leave the rear drive boys sitting there 😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by: KS Cleaning on March 04, 2021, 11:40:38 pm
Audi RS 5 cylinder 👌
If I do change out of the M4 it would probably be for the Mercedes C class C63 AMG👌
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Post by: NWH on March 04, 2021, 11:42:30 pm
I’ve driven both when I got out of the M4 I could have gotten out of any larger fast car you can’t drive it or the M2 how you’d like to in wet or damp weather even with traction on,different ball game in the Audi in any weather.
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Post by: KS Cleaning on March 04, 2021, 11:45:07 pm
I would definitely remap that Golf it would be night and day,Audi over an M for remapping £1000 gets you another 70-80hp to nearly 480bhp from stock in an hour if you try and get that out of an M2 it’s loads of cash and you can put the power down with the Audi. Should have got an RS3 Daz,eat you’re Golf like a peanut.

absolutely no need at all...the golf is fine as it is....it still pulls you back in your seat!im really impressed with the acceleration.....the S 3s are just ridiculously expensive brand new and the boots are not as big(for my drums when we start gigging again).....

Currently we’ve got a BMW m140i on a stage 1 map, running 420bhp and 600nm of torque, now that kicks you in the seat like anything!

I’m thinking of selling it soon, looking at getting a kit car from MK sports cars as they only down the road from me. Track days etc will be fun in one.

The beemer is so unbelievably fast it’s almost unusable. In fact I had more fun in my Ibiza gti cupras, mx5’s etc when in early 20’s.

The beemer is just too quick on the road.

The noise though, the straight 6 turbo is a beaut. Fastest car I’ve had and been in, it’s lightning quick, leaves m2’s for dead. Although I’d rather have an m2  ;D

The B58 engine in my M140i is one of the best engines around,it’s in several new M cars as well as the new supra. The stock engine can hold 500bhp tunes with ease. Some kit!

These days anything in the 6-7 second to 60 bracket is slow... but I get it’s still fun Daz.
That’s the engine my wife’s car uses, being the X4 it will be quite heavy but still manages 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I’d imagine the smaller lighter 140i even as standard would be quicker still.

Yes mate, you’re talking 3.5-4 seconds in the m140i if, and it’s a big if, you can get the traction, which only event happens once a year. There is way too much tourque to launch perfectly. Usually doing the 4.8’s to 60 in mine. Using a timing app.

It’s 40-100 that’s mind blowing. It’s just so rapid it’s almost unbelievable. We have had the stage 1 map though. Stock 140’s run around 350bhp.
I know what you mean,  I’ve got an M4 and as you say the traction off the spot just isn’t there, there’s only so much power you can use from a standing start......plus tyres aren’t cheap!! but put the foot down when you’re sitting at 30-40 and it certainly puts a smile on your face.


Another reason to get an Audi 4 wheel drive  no wheel spin just flat out off the mark leave the rear drive boys sitting there 😂😂😂😂😂
There are pros and cons for FWD, RWD and AWD, personally I enjoy the ride of a rear wheel drive.
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Post by: KS Cleaning on March 04, 2021, 11:47:18 pm
I’ve driven both when I got out of the M4 I could have gotten out of any larger fast car you can’t drive it or the M2 how you’d like to in wet or damp weather even with traction on,different ball game in the Audi in any weather.
I don’t need to drive mine in wet weather.....that’s what the wife’s cars for😆
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Post by: NWH on March 04, 2021, 11:47:42 pm
I was actually going to mention the C43 I know someone that’s got 1 which is also 4 wheel drive although his is very drab looking it’s a 69 plate old dash etc,apart from the quad pipes just looks like a normal C Class.
The only Merc I like the look of at the moment is the A45s + complete luxury and silly quick the trouble with a lot of the A45s+ they come with that stupid ironing board spoiler,I know you can spec it out from new but I wouldn’t bother you can get them 7-8k cheaper with 1500 miles.
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Post by: NWH on March 04, 2021, 11:49:42 pm
I’ve driven both when I got out of the M4 I could have gotten out of any larger fast car you can’t drive it or the M2 how you’d like to in wet or damp weather even with traction on,different ball game in the Audi in any weather.
I don’t need to drive mine in wet weather.....that’s what the wife’s cars for😆

That 4 wheel drive you’re wife’s got they rate better than the M version for ride.
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Post by: NWH on March 04, 2021, 11:52:15 pm
I got to get something I can also put logs in the back for the burner 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 04, 2021, 11:55:57 pm
I’ve driven both when I got out of the M4 I could have gotten out of any larger fast car you can’t drive it or the M2 how you’d like to in wet or damp weather even with traction on,different ball game in the Audi in any weather.
I don’t need to drive mine in wet weather.....that’s what the wife’s cars for😆

That 4 wheel drive you’re wife’s got they rate better than the M version for ride.
Aye maybe on dual carriageway and motorways but there is no comparison the handling on country roads.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 05, 2021, 12:08:51 am
I was actually going to mention the C43 I know someone that’s got 1 which is also 4 wheel drive although his is very drab looking it’s a 69 plate old dash etc,apart from the quad pipes just looks like a normal C Class.
The only Merc I like the look of at the moment is the A45s + complete luxury and silly quick the trouble with a lot of the A45s+ they come with that stupid ironing board spoiler,I know you can spec it out from new but I wouldn’t bother you can get them 7-8k cheaper with 1500 miles.
Don’t think I would have the 43, it would be a 63 AMG coupe, it’s a V8
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Post by: NWH on March 05, 2021, 12:12:50 am
Yeah but do you mean the RWD version even muted they sound good I think personally,again I think I’d struggle to go for anything like that unless it was 4WD.
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Post by: NWH on March 05, 2021, 12:15:04 am
The bloke I know that’s got the C43 got it nearly 10 cheaper because it was stock left over just before the facelift version,horrible wheels on his 5 spoke jobbies dreadful things.
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Post by: zesty on March 05, 2021, 07:00:50 am
Audi RS 5 cylinder 👌
If I do change out of the M4 it would probably be for the Mercedes C class C63 AMG👌

Yes mate c63 is sweet!

M4 not a bad car though, bet you love it   ;D
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: simon w on March 05, 2021, 03:53:34 pm

Thanks for all your personal advice and input but I have decided it's better the devil you know and have decided to stick with a manual gear box, the van dealership have also advised on this when I explained that the van is fully loaded up on a daily basis.

I've decided to go with a Ford Custom 340 LWB 170 FWD  if I place an order this month it should be ready for July/August  :o  ;D
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Post by: Splash & dash on March 05, 2021, 04:10:33 pm

Thanks for all your personal advice and input but I have decided it's better the devil you know and have decided to stick with a manual gear box, the van dealership have also advised on this when I explained that the van is fully loaded up on a daily basis.

I've decided to go with a Ford Custom 340 LWB 170 FWD  if I place an order this month it should be ready for July/August  :o  ;D



Either the  auto van you are looking at is a load of rubbish or the dealer doesn’t know what he’s talking about an auto box if far better suited at dealing with heavy weights and steep inclines as they have a certain amount of “slip” built into them for pulling away or reversing .
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Post by: KS Cleaning on March 05, 2021, 04:43:16 pm

Thanks for all your personal advice and input but I have decided it's better the devil you know and have decided to stick with a manual gear box, the van dealership have also advised on this when I explained that the van is fully loaded up on a daily basis.

I've decided to go with a Ford Custom 340 LWB 170 FWD  if I place an order this month it should be ready for July/August  :o  ;D
Unless you are specking it up why don’t you see what stock’s available? Mind you dealerships don’t usually order in the 340 unless someone has ordered one. Personally I think you will regret not going Auto, I have never heard of Auto’s struggling with weight. I take it due to Covid you’re not allowed a test drive at the moment? If so I would wait until the rules are relaxed a bit so you can test drive an auto before committing to a manual.
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Post by: simon w on March 05, 2021, 05:08:34 pm

Thanks for all your personal advice and input but I have decided it's better the devil you know and have decided to stick with a manual gear box, the van dealership have also advised on this when I explained that the van is fully loaded up on a daily basis.

I've decided to go with a Ford Custom 340 LWB 170 FWD  if I place an order this month it should be ready for July/August  :o  ;D





Either the  auto van you are looking at is a load of rubbish or the dealer doesn’t know what he’s talking about an auto box if far better suited at dealing with heavy weights and steep inclines as they have a certain amount of “slip” built into them for pulling away or reversing .

It's one of these. Ford Transit Custom 340 LWB Limited 2.0 EcoBlue 170ps FWD
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Post by: Don Kee on March 05, 2021, 05:33:15 pm

Thanks for all your personal advice and input but I have decided it's better the devil you know and have decided to stick with a manual gear box, the van dealership have also advised on this when I explained that the van is fully loaded up on a daily basis.

I've decided to go with a Ford Custom 340 LWB 170 FWD  if I place an order this month it should be ready for July/August  :o  ;D





Either the  auto van you are looking at is a load of rubbish or the dealer doesn’t know what he’s talking about an auto box if far better suited at dealing with heavy weights and steep inclines as they have a certain amount of “slip” built into them for pulling away or reversing .

It's one of these. Ford Transit Custom 340 LWB Limited 2.0 EcoBlue 170ps FWD

L1 or L2?

Nice van, its very springy when empty though so keep it filled up!
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Post by: NWH on March 05, 2021, 06:03:56 pm
Are you sure the moderators on this site will allow you to put that on the bottom of each of your posts,shall we ask them I know you want to suck me like a gutter vac but I’m not sure like I say it’s allowed.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: simon w on March 05, 2021, 06:09:14 pm

Thanks for all your personal advice and input but I have decided it's better the devil you know and have decided to stick with a manual gear box, the van dealership have also advised on this when I explained that the van is fully loaded up on a daily basis.

I've decided to go with a Ford Custom 340 LWB 170 FWD  if I place an order this month it should be ready for July/August  :o  ;D





Either the  auto van you are looking at is a load of rubbish or the dealer doesn’t know what he’s talking about an auto box if far better suited at dealing with heavy weights and steep inclines as they have a certain amount of “slip” built into them for pulling away or reversing .

It's one of these. Ford Transit Custom 340 LWB Limited 2.0 EcoBlue 170ps FWD

L1 or L2?

Nice van, its very springy when empty though so keep it filled up!

L2 H1. Thanks for the advice it'll only be light on homeward journeys  8)
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Post by: dd on March 05, 2021, 07:53:49 pm
Are you sure the moderators on this site will allow you to put that on the bottom of each of your posts,shall we ask them I know you want to suck me like a gutter vac but I’m not sure like I say it’s allowed.
I think your gutter vac reference just shows the sort of thing that goes on in your head Nigel.
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Post by: NWH on March 05, 2021, 07:59:23 pm
The odd dig at each other on here is good banter a reference to me with every post could be looked upon as bullying lol,just sayin not that he could also be looked upon as a troll.
He looks his best when he’s surrounded by ceramic with a round seat and chain above his head that’s all I’m trying to get at lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Don Kee on March 06, 2021, 07:05:19 am
Are you sure the moderators on this site will allow you to put that on the bottom of each of your posts,shall we ask them I know you want to suck me like a gutter vac but I’m not sure like I say it’s allowed.

Someones feelings getting a bit hurty?
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Dazzler3370 on March 06, 2021, 09:12:30 am
After 4 years of driving a manual van I thought all we do it stop and start a the time in this job so why have a manual.
I've had a transit connect L2 automatic for the past 3 years.
Best thing I've ever done. Drives fantastic
I carry 500ltrs, 2 leisure batteries, electric reel and it pulls like a train.
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Post by: Mike Burd on March 06, 2021, 09:18:03 am
So is this now a show off our vehicle thread? Here's mine:. Even got a missing hubcap. So - no pictures then the vehicle is made up. Just like NWH's big houses.  ;D

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1615022275_van.jpg)



Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 06, 2021, 09:42:01 am
🤣🤣🤣🤣 nothing wrong with a work van like that at all if it pumps water jobs a good’n
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 06, 2021, 09:46:05 am
Are you sure the moderators on this site will allow you to put that on the bottom of each of your posts,shall we ask them I know you want to suck me like a gutter vac but I’m not sure like I say it’s allowed.

Someones feelings getting a bit hurty?
Off you go with you’re 250k turnover is that similar to an Apple 🍏 turnover 🤣🤣🤣 cash is king without cash you are stuck as soon as the banks say no you ain’t going anywhere,and that includes the Maldives 🇲🇻 lol.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Don Kee on March 06, 2021, 12:51:57 pm
Are you sure the moderators on this site will allow you to put that on the bottom of each of your posts,shall we ask them I know you want to suck me like a gutter vac but I’m not sure like I say it’s allowed.

Someones feelings getting a bit hurty?
Off you go with you’re 250k turnover is that similar to an Apple 🍏 turnover 🤣🤣🤣 cash is king without cash you are stuck as soon as the banks say no you ain’t going anywhere,and that includes the Maldives 🇲🇻 lol.

Eh?
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 06, 2021, 02:22:49 pm
I know sounds like a load of old 💩 doesn’t it I thought I’d let you see it from my point of view lol.
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Post by: Don Kee on March 06, 2021, 04:22:10 pm
I know sounds like a load of old 💩 doesn’t it I thought I’d let you see it from my point of view lol.

What, that you sound like a load of old 💩?

That’s the most self aware you’ve ever been on this forum, well done!
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 06, 2021, 05:05:56 pm
I come across people like you quiet often and literally lol 💦
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: simon w on March 21, 2021, 07:59:02 pm
Getting closer to making the order and had almost decided on the auto but noticed the auto versions of the same van has a lower payload only 48kg less but an important detail for what we use our vans for don't you think? price wise it's looking like an extra £1,165,20. But there not charging anything for a metallic colour of choice over the frozen white as standard. Also didn't realise I'd loose some payload going for the long wheel base over the short wheel base.

The model I'm looking at is the Transit Custom limited LWB 170ps FWD EcoBlue  thinking the saving and the payload outweigh the advantage of an auto gearbox

 
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: NWH on March 21, 2021, 08:16:43 pm
170ps 👍 and the LWB is a good choice go for the Auto yeah I will be next time sod manuals again,I do quiet a few miles I will definitely be getting an Auto.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 21, 2021, 08:19:12 pm
Getting closer to making the order and had almost decided on the auto but noticed the auto versions of the same van has a lower payload only 48kg less but an important detail for what we use our vans for don't you think? price wise it's looking like an extra £1,165,20. But there not charging anything for a metallic colour of choice over the frozen white as standard. Also didn't realise I'd loose some payload going for the long wheel base over the short wheel base.

The model I'm looking at is the Transit Custom limited LWB 170ps FWD EcoBlue  thinking the saving and the payload outweigh the advantage of an auto gearbox
The payload difference is so minimal that it shouldn’t really be much of a consideration. If the Auto is £1165 more and you are a basic rate taxpayer, that will knock £338 off your tax bill, so the real price difference would be £827. Then you need to think of residuals, the Auto will be a more desirable van on the used market so will probably depreciate less than the manual will, in which case it might actually work out cheaper in the long run.........Go for the Auto.
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Post by: NWH on March 21, 2021, 11:10:05 pm
They all drop like stones price wise the only difference is if you have all the extras and the more powerful engine etc it will be more desirable when it comes to selling it,the only time you may be surprised with the value a few years down the line is if it has a VW badge on front and back.
If you ask a VW dealer for a low mileage Transporter he will call you up and say I’ve got just what you want just come in,3 years old 70000 on the clock 22k + Vat 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: simon w on March 22, 2021, 07:32:36 am
My Transit 330 125 AWD has below average miles and will be advertised with a full MOT and service these vans are hard to find and sought after and if you've seen the prices used vans are selling for at the moment I should be able to get a very pleasing price for it going on what the same vans are fetching at the moment according to my research on the internet.

 
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Post by: EandM on March 22, 2021, 04:29:12 pm
Ford went through a strange stage in the mid-2010's.

Some of the Ford Rangers were faster in manual form as they qualified for car speed limits whereas the autos were commercial.

Irrelevant if you're buying a van but worth considering if you're not and cover many miles.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: simon w on March 27, 2021, 11:46:41 am
Just placed the order and paid the deposit for the  Transit Custom limited LWB 170ps FWD EcoBlue in automatic gearbox  so if anyone's looking for advice on driving an auto for work  in a years time I'm your Man.

Thanks for all your advice and input on this thread  8)
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 27, 2021, 03:24:05 pm
Just placed the order and paid the deposit for the  Transit Custom limited LWB 170ps FWD EcoBlue in automatic gearbox  so if anyone's looking for advice on driving an auto for work  in a years time I'm your Man.

Thanks for all your advice and input on this thread  8)
Trust me, you won’t regret going for the Auto.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Stoots on March 28, 2021, 04:36:42 pm
Been out looking at new vans today, prices seem crazy well over 20 grand for a decent sized new van.

I would love one but logic just keeps saying to me dont do it. Probably better off buying an older van and running it till it blows up.

Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: dd on March 28, 2021, 04:52:52 pm
Been out looking at new vans today, prices seem crazy well over 20 grand for a decent sized new van.

I would love one but logic just keeps saying to me dont do it. Probably better off buying an older van and running it till it blows up.
Depends what you want. Doblo maxi a lot less than 20k new (deals on autotrader).
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Stoots on March 28, 2021, 05:52:59 pm
Been out looking at new vans today, prices seem crazy well over 20 grand for a decent sized new van.

I would love one but logic just keeps saying to me dont do it. Probably better off buying an older van and running it till it blows up.
Depends what you want. Doblo maxi a lot less than 20k new (deals on autotrader).

Not looked at them tbf. Seen the combo and berlingo/partner all with 1000kg payload. Around 13k plus VAT

Just worried that a year down the line i might wish i had got something bigger . Would need to be for a 2 man setup.

I guess i might get away with something like the LWB doblo and they seem the cheapest and a bit longer in the back, cheers for that i might go take a look.
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: zesty on March 28, 2021, 06:22:14 pm
Think twice Adam, having  small van definitely limits you in terms of growth.

I had a transit connect, then branched into softwashing and pressure washing, it was then way too small.

Now got a custom, and it’s just the right size, though even with that, I wish I’d had the LWB. Should have bought the custom before the connect.

You just never know when you might want to grow/2 man system.

Always go for the bigger option, the extra room is always handy!



Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: Stoots on March 28, 2021, 07:20:47 pm
Think twice Adam, having  small van definitely limits you in terms of growth.

I had a transit connect, then branched into softwashing and pressure washing, it was then way too small.

Now got a custom, and it’s just the right size, though even with that, I wish I’d had the LWB. Should have bought the custom before the connect.

You just never know when you might want to grow/2 man system.

Always go for the bigger option, the extra room is always handy!

I know, thats my worry. I change my mind a lot so although i dont think i would ever go back to pressure washing etc i could change my mind overnight.  ;D
Title: Re: Automatic Gearbox's WC Vans
Post by: zesty on March 28, 2021, 08:19:14 pm
Think twice Adam, having  small van definitely limits you in terms of growth.

I had a transit connect, then branched into softwashing and pressure washing, it was then way too small.

Now got a custom, and it’s just the right size, though even with that, I wish I’d had the LWB. Should have bought the custom before the connect.

You just never know when you might want to grow/2 man system.

Always go for the bigger option, the extra room is always handy!

I know, thats my worry. I change my mind a lot so although i dont think i would ever go back to pressure washing etc i could change my mind overnight.  ;D

Exactly!