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Title: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: dazmond on November 27, 2020, 04:25:49 pm
 :D :D :D :D

i reckon it must of been an airlock/blockage in the heat exchanger as its working great again now.....

coiled hose water temperature(after 20 mins from firing up this morning)...44c.....ambient air temperature 4c

this afternoon(less than half a tank left).....56c....i couldnt hold my hand under it for more than a few seconds....ambient air temperature 6c....... 8)
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: dazmond on November 27, 2020, 04:29:04 pm
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Cleaned the car and van after work......the car looked like it was on fire!👍😎......happy days....
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: deeege on November 27, 2020, 04:33:19 pm
Phew. You’ve had us worrying all day Daz! Will you be taking it for a service still?
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: KS Cleaning on November 27, 2020, 04:41:15 pm
The combination of piping hot water and using a brush won’t do the paintwork any favours.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: dazmond on November 27, 2020, 04:42:58 pm
Phew. You’ve had us worrying all day Daz! Will you be taking it for a service still?

ive phoned 2 people this afternoon and they dont do webasto water heater servicing anymore........

yes i do want to get it serviced if i dont have to travel too far Danny......ive also got a number off a customer who has a narrowboat and that place is in middlewich.....which is not too far...better than driving all the way to grippatank or pure freedom!
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: dazmond on November 27, 2020, 04:44:45 pm
The combination of piping hot water and using a brush won’t do the paintwork any favours.

i dont care....im chopping it in for another new one in april next year..gonna go for a GTI instead of another  GTD! :D


its the only thing the xline flocked brush is good for! ;D
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: deeege on November 27, 2020, 04:51:17 pm
Phew. You’ve had us worrying all day Daz! Will you be taking it for a service still?

ive phoned 2 people this afternoon and they dont do webasto water heater servicing anymore........

yes i do want to get it serviced if i dont have to travel too far Danny......ive also got a number off a customer who has a narrowboat and that place is in middlewich.....which is not too far...better than driving all the way to grippatank or pure freedom!

I was gonna suggest the canal boat place in Middlewich.  I drive past it every other week, they’ll sort you out.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: simon w on November 27, 2020, 04:58:19 pm
Why don't you just use the Webasto UK website to find an authorised service engineer closest to where you live? That's what I did and have used them for services many times since 2010 when I had my first hot system from PF.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: SB Cleaning on November 27, 2020, 05:15:51 pm
The combination of piping hot water and using a brush won’t do the paintwork any favours.

i dont care....im chopping it in for another new one in april next year..gonna go for a GTI instead of another  GTD! :D


its the only thing the xline flocked brush is good for! ;D
Get a R much better than a GTI
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: Spruce on November 27, 2020, 05:25:07 pm
Why don't you just use the Webasto UK website to find an authorised service engineer closest to where you live? That's what I did and have used them for services many times since 2010 when I had my first hot system from PF.

From my experience the agent advertised by Webasto UK in Middlesbrough hasn't done Webasto repairs for the past 2 years. The guy who did retired and they haven't replaced him.

The agent advised in Durham talked the talk but when it came to the point of getting a unit booked in for repair they responded they would get back to me. Still waiting but I just knew at the time it wasn't going to happen.

If you find someone who has been in the repair side for years on the canals then you have a better chance of getting a unit repaired than we do.

There was a guy on Ebay offering a repair service for Thermo 90's. His charge was nearly £400 plus parts.  May as well buy a new one for £1350 because your repair costs won't be much less than that. Ask Splash and Dash. 
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: dazmond on November 27, 2020, 05:49:21 pm
Why don't you just use the Webasto UK website to find an authorised service engineer closest to where you live? That's what I did and have used them for services many times since 2010 when I had my first hot system from PF.

i tried that....the 2 i phoned up dont service them anymore......
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: dazmond on November 27, 2020, 05:54:04 pm
Why don't you just use the Webasto UK website to find an authorised service engineer closest to where you live? That's what I did and have used them for services many times since 2010 when I had my first hot system from PF.

From my experience the agent advertised by Webasto UK in Middlesbrough hasn't done Webasto repairs for the past 2 years. The guy who did retired and they haven't replaced him.

The agent advised in Durham talked the talk but when it came to the point of getting a unit booked in for repair they responded they would get back to me. Still waiting but I just knew at the time it wasn't going to happen.

If you find someone who has been in the repair side for years on the canals then you have a better chance of getting a unit repaired than we do.

There was a guy on Ebay offering a repair service for Thermo 90's. His charge was nearly £400 plus parts.  May as well buy a new one for £1350 because your repair costs won't be much less than that. Ask Splash and Dash.

it seems to be quite difficult to find someone who is sufficiently qualified who ll service them.........
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: P @ F on November 27, 2020, 07:36:18 pm
I always service my own , decoke , new screen , new glow plug , new diesel filter  all for £15 and half hour of my day  ;D
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: simon w on November 27, 2020, 08:27:01 pm
Why don't you just use the Webasto UK website to find an authorised service engineer closest to where you live? That's what I did and have used them for services many times since 2010 when I had my first hot system from PF.

From my experience the agent advertised by Webasto UK in Middlesbrough hasn't done Webasto repairs for the past 2 years. The guy who did retired and they haven't replaced him.

The agent advised in Durham talked the talk but when it came to the point of getting a unit booked in for repair they responded they would get back to me. Still waiting but I just knew at the time it wasn't going to happen.

If you find someone who has been in the repair side for years on the canals then you have a better chance of getting a unit repaired than we do.

There was a guy on Ebay offering a repair service for Thermo 90's. His charge was nearly £400 plus parts.  May as well buy a new one for £1350 because your repair costs won't be much less than that. Ask Splash and Dash.

it seems to be quite difficult to find someone who is sufficiently qualified who ll service them.........

Not on my Manor
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: Spruce on November 27, 2020, 08:30:31 pm
Why don't you just use the Webasto UK website to find an authorised service engineer closest to where you live? That's what I did and have used them for services many times since 2010 when I had my first hot system from PF.

From my experience the agent advertised by Webasto UK in Middlesbrough hasn't done Webasto repairs for the past 2 years. The guy who did retired and they haven't replaced him.

The agent advised in Durham talked the talk but when it came to the point of getting a unit booked in for repair they responded they would get back to me. Still waiting but I just knew at the time it wasn't going to happen.

If you find someone who has been in the repair side for years on the canals then you have a better chance of getting a unit repaired than we do.

There was a guy on Ebay offering a repair service for Thermo 90's. His charge was nearly £400 plus parts.  May as well buy a new one for £1350 because your repair costs won't be much less than that. Ask Splash and Dash.

it seems to be quite difficult to find someone who is sufficiently qualified who ll service them.........

You can also buy a 12kw knock off Eberspacher Hot water heater  from China for peanuts. I'm sure there would be customs and import tax to pay on that.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Remote-Control-12KW-24V-12V-waterParking_60859189664.html?spm=a2700.details.deiletai6.1.29365db7ka52qO

Its turning these things into becoming throw away products. The problem is the Germans don't know that yet.

The Chinese have already shown that with their mass produced air heaters. I would love to know what Eberspatcer's Airtronic sales are like now.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: NWH on November 27, 2020, 08:50:51 pm
That’s the thing with the 5kw it is a lot easier to service yourself anything hardware is easy enough to swap out and replace once you’ve done it a few times and taken pictures as you go,I think the burner only took less than an hour to swap over it’s as easy as undoing 4-5 screws changing the gasket  and burner and putting back together,reconnect the pipes and you’ve got a new burner.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: Splash & dash on November 27, 2020, 09:34:22 pm
:D :D :D :D

i reckon it must of been an airlock/blockage in the heat exchanger as its working great again now.....

coiled hose water temperature(after 20 mins from firing up this morning)...44c.....ambient air temperature 4c

this afternoon(less than half a tank left).....56c....i couldnt hold my hand under it for more than a few seconds....ambient air temperature 6c....... 8)


There you go what did I say 😂😂😂
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: NWH on November 27, 2020, 09:36:27 pm
Well done Splash another thing we now know that’ll save time 👍
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: Splash & dash on November 27, 2020, 09:44:10 pm
Well done Splash another thing we now know that’ll save time 👍


I only suspected it was an air lock as I had the same thing happen a couple of years ago , I did think like you if it wasn’t that it would be the circulation pump they are expensive at £300 a go , so glad it was an air lock
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: NWH on November 27, 2020, 10:32:17 pm
Yeah unusual an air lock though they are very reliable units though when you think the use they get.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: Kesi Lerry on November 28, 2020, 02:52:55 am
Yeah unusual an air lock though they are very reliable units though when you think the use they get.

+1 for you. All the best!
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 28, 2020, 08:30:29 am
Why don't you just use the Webasto UK website to find an authorised service engineer closest to where you live? That's what I did and have used them for services many times since 2010 when I had my first hot system from PF.

From my experience the agent advertised by Webasto UK in Middlesbrough hasn't done Webasto repairs for the past 2 years. The guy who did retired and they haven't replaced him.

The agent advised in Durham talked the talk but when it came to the point of getting a unit booked in for repair they responded they would get back to me. Still waiting but I just knew at the time it wasn't going to happen.

If you find someone who has been in the repair side for years on the canals then you have a better chance of getting a unit repaired than we do.

There was a guy on Ebay offering a repair service for Thermo 90's. His charge was nearly £400 plus parts.  May as well buy a new one for £1350 because your repair costs won't be much less than that. Ask Splash and Dash.

it seems to be quite difficult to find someone who is sufficiently qualified who ll service them.........

Not on my Manor
Simon who do you use and where and cost please
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: dazmond on November 28, 2020, 01:51:02 pm
:D :D :D :D

i reckon it must of been an airlock/blockage in the heat exchanger as its working great again now.....

coiled hose water temperature(after 20 mins from firing up this morning)...44c.....ambient air temperature 4c

this afternoon(less than half a tank left).....56c....i couldnt hold my hand under it for more than a few seconds....ambient air temperature 6c....... 8)


There you go what did I say 😂😂😂

cheers mate.....this is the only thing i dont like about these heaters......the temperature dial/mixer valve on the heat exchanger(s)  is rubbish....im not the only one thats had a problem with this.......i think the ionics heater has a summer/winter setting although i dont know whether this is a switch or another crappy dial! ::)roll ;D
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: dazmond on November 28, 2020, 01:56:39 pm
That’s the thing with the 5kw it is a lot easier to service yourself anything hardware is easy enough to swap out and replace once you’ve done it a few times and taken pictures as you go,I think the burner only took less than an hour to swap over it’s as easy as undoing 4-5 screws changing the gasket  and burner and putting back together,reconnect the pipes and you’ve got a new burner.

does the thermo pro 90 heater that grippa use have an OBD port somewhere in the cabinet for diagnostic reports?
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: Dave Willis on November 28, 2020, 02:20:53 pm
I think you just stick your finger in the burner.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: NWH on November 28, 2020, 02:55:57 pm
Yeah they all have a diagnostics port on them it should be located on the controller side of the burner.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: NWH on November 28, 2020, 02:56:45 pm
You’ll obviously need the cable and Webasto software though.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: Splash & dash on November 28, 2020, 06:24:25 pm
:D :D :D :D

i reckon it must of been an airlock/blockage in the heat exchanger as its working great again now.....

coiled hose water temperature(after 20 mins from firing up this morning)...44c.....ambient air temperature 4c

this afternoon(less than half a tank left).....56c....i couldnt hold my hand under it for more than a few seconds....ambient air temperature 6c....... 8)


There you go what did I say 😂😂😂

cheers mate.....this is the only thing i dont like about these heaters......the temperature dial/mixer valve on the heat exchanger(s)  is rubbish....im not the only one thats had a problem with this.......i think the ionics heater has a summer/winter setting although i dont know whether this is a switch or another crappy dial! ::)roll ;D



The ionics ones I have two thermopure s work  differently to Grippatank, ionics has a summer and winter setting switch which basically  puts the boiler on half power , they only have one heat exchanger , and a % of the water is continuously returning to the tank by a pressure release valve , the Grippatank system is much better with the two man system and two heat exchangers also with the control numptys you have far more control over the temperature but I do admit they could be improved the valves are cheap and nasty   
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: NWH on November 28, 2020, 07:35:24 pm
My minimum heat temp on mine is still very hot.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: Spruce on November 29, 2020, 06:58:55 am
Phew. You’ve had us worrying all day Daz! Will you be taking it for a service still?

ive phoned 2 people this afternoon and they dont do webasto water heater servicing anymore........

yes i do want to get it serviced if i dont have to travel too far Danny......ive also got a number off a customer who has a narrowboat and that place is in middlewich.....which is not too far...better than driving all the way to grippatank or pure freedom!

I was gonna suggest the canal boat place in Middlewich.  I drive past it every other week, they’ll sort you out.

Please can you tell us the name of the boat yard in Middlewich. There are 2, Kingslock boat yard and Andersen boat yard listed on Google. Thanks
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: deeege on November 29, 2020, 07:13:59 am
Phew. You’ve had us worrying all day Daz! Will you be taking it for a service still?

ive phoned 2 people this afternoon and they dont do webasto water heater servicing anymore........

yes i do want to get it serviced if i dont have to travel too far Danny......ive also got a number off a customer who has a narrowboat and that place is in middlewich.....which is not too far...better than driving all the way to grippatank or pure freedom!

I was gonna suggest the canal boat place in Middlewich.  I drive past it every other week, they’ll sort you out.

Please can you tell us the name of the boat yard in Middlewich. There are 2, Kingslock boat yard and Andersen boat yard listed on Google. Thanks

Kingslock is the larger yard that can be seen from the road, I’m not sure if that’s where Daz has the number for though.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: Spruce on November 29, 2020, 09:27:05 am
Phew. You’ve had us worrying all day Daz! Will you be taking it for a service still?

ive phoned 2 people this afternoon and they dont do webasto water heater servicing anymore........

yes i do want to get it serviced if i dont have to travel too far Danny......ive also got a number off a customer who has a narrowboat and that place is in middlewich.....which is not too far...better than driving all the way to grippatank or pure freedom!

I was gonna suggest the canal boat place in Middlewich.  I drive past it every other week, they’ll sort you out.

Please can you tell us the name of the boat yard in Middlewich. There are 2, Kingslock boat yard and Andersen boat yard listed on Google. Thanks

Kingslock is the larger yard that can be seen from the road, I’m not sure if that’s where Daz has the number for though.

Thank you.
Title: Re: diesel heater working fine now!
Post by: davids3511 on November 29, 2020, 09:28:29 am
Well done Splash another thing we now know that’ll save time 👍


I only suspected it was an air lock as I had the same thing happen a couple of years ago , I did think like you if it wasn’t that it would be the circulation pump they are expensive at £300 a go , so glad it was an air lock
The circulating pumps are the same pump as used in an xf supercharged or a range rover supercharged. You can often get them on ebay for about £50.00