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Title: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Ronnie Bryce on June 13, 2018, 08:05:25 pm
Can't make up my mind here. My joints and upper arm muscles are killing me after 10 years of manual reeling in, it's getting seriously painfull. Any of you guys have experience of any of the 2 mentioned reels?
I know I could DIY, but don't have time or any inclination to do so. Thanks for any advice given.
Ronnie.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: matthewprice on June 13, 2018, 10:41:55 pm
I have the waterworks reel ,really good reel ,sometimes I find when reeling in 300 m a little under powered on occasion .also  I feel it could do with a safety bar to stop hose coming of the reel .but must admit that in over a year only has happened a handful of times .hope this helps .i  wouldn’t be without it now
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 14, 2018, 07:43:32 am
Can't make up my mind here. My joints and upper arm muscles are killing me after 10 years of manual reeling in, it's getting seriously painfull. Any of you guys have experience of any of the 2 mentioned reels?
I know I could DIY, but don't have time or any inclination to do so. Thanks for any advice given.
Ronnie.

i dont get it...i get zero pain in joints and muscles from reeling in and ive been doing it for 8 years now....how old are you ronnie?do you weight train by the way?

best wishes mate
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Ronnie Bryce on June 14, 2018, 08:20:03 am
55 Daz and fine and fit, regular hill walker. Until 6 months ago, perfectly fine with no problems. At some point RSI will kick in, when it does, you will know all about it. Just keep doing what you do and you will find out for yourself mate, one day. With me it's primarily the elbow joint and shoulder joint on the winding arm.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 14, 2018, 08:26:15 am
55 Daz and fine and fit, regular hill walker. Until 6 months ago, perfectly fine with no problems. At some point RSI will kick in, when it does, you will know all about it. Just keep doing what you do and you will find out for yourself mate, one day.

why will i?reeling in is virtually effortless with a decent fixed reel in the van.i also weight train 3 times a week so my muscles and joints are strong....i enjoy the extra effort as it gives me a little "cardio kick" if im reeling in 100m at pace.... ;D

im also a part time window cleaner so i dont think i work enough hours to give me RSI.......
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Ronnie Bryce on June 14, 2018, 08:29:21 am
So am I, Tkd black belt, drummer, kayaker, hill walker, I'm fit and don't need to work many hours, but it's happened. Take care.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: alank on June 14, 2018, 08:43:12 am
Im the same ronnie and will be ordering two electric reels at end of summer. In my fifties now and starting to ache. A lot. And yes im fit walk dogs have six allotments and cut logs etc also weight trained for years but why reel in with a manual when you dont have to ;D
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: NWH on June 14, 2018, 09:40:23 am
It’s not about the weight of it it’s the  movement which gives you problems just like any other RSI problem,I have the waterworks reel it changed my working day it will give you the same benefit it does switching from a fibreglass pole to an extreme pole.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: NWH on June 14, 2018, 12:28:55 pm
An electric reel is well worth the money imo I didn’t used to think it was but I was soon convinced,I had deltoid pain and elbow pain which were completely gone once I started using the electric reel.like I say you could be the biggest strongest bloke out there it’s not about strength it’s the repetitive movement which aggravates the joints and tendons.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Jonny 87 on June 14, 2018, 12:29:06 pm
55 Daz and fine and fit, regular hill walker. Until 6 months ago, perfectly fine with no problems. At some point RSI will kick in, when it does, you will know all about it. Just keep doing what you do and you will find out for yourself mate, one day.

why will i?reeling in is virtually effortless with a decent fixed reel in the van.i also weight train 3 times a week so my muscles and joints are strong....i enjoy the extra effort as it gives me a little "cardio kick" if im reeling in 100m at pace.... ;D

im also a part time window cleaner so i dont think i work enough hours to give me RSI.......

I’ve been saying this to you for ages daz, rsi WILL kick in at some point. It doesn’t matter how fit or active you are, I think it’s madness your not going to spend a few hundred quid  to eliminate the problem completely.

Ronnie we use two waterworks reels and they are spot on.

I’ve never had to touch them maintenance wise and they are nearly a year old.

If they do break down, there is a manual handle you can attach so your not stuck, and maintenance on them is straight forward. Take a few bolts off and replace the chain etc.

I’m really not sure if the purefreedom reel is worth the extra few hundred pound.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Jonny 87 on June 14, 2018, 12:30:39 pm
An electric reel is well worth the money imo I didn’t used to think it was but I was soon convinced,I had deltoid pain and elbow pain which were completely gone once I started using the electric reel.like I say you could be the biggest strongest bloke out there it’s not about strength it’s the repetitive movement which aggravates the joints and tendons.

Exactly. Receptionists don’t get rsi because there hands aren’t strong enough. It’s the repetitive movement. It doesn’t happen overnight, but eventually it catches up.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: NWH on June 14, 2018, 12:43:11 pm
I know the reel has fixed the problem after about 2-3 weeks the aches were gone they are on par with extreme poles and hot systems it would be the 3 things I would insist on with a new system.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Ronnie Bryce on June 14, 2018, 01:21:00 pm
Johnny, Nwh, does the waterworks have a snag detection cut out?
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: zesty on June 14, 2018, 01:45:53 pm
I think electric reels are brilliant, I’m 30, yet I love mine, nothing to do with fitness, purely ease of use and speed.

I’m all about making work as easy as possible, so I can save energy and time for the things I love.

Daz, its a case of long term prevention, make it as easy as possible now, and keep the body in good nick for many many years. I agree it’s not hard to manually reel in the hose, but when doing it for years on end when you don’t actually need to is pointless really, but each to there own...
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 14, 2018, 04:24:52 pm
if i start having problems then ill get an electric reel but no sign yet... 8)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: p1w1 on June 14, 2018, 04:39:33 pm
Johnny, Nwh, does the waterworks have a snag detection cut out?
No, but i've never found it a problem if the hose snags the reel won't have the torque to keep winding in,  just let go of the button it's pretty instant. I did a review of the water works reel a year ago if it helps http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=206634.msg1830108#msg1830108 . It's still going strong and works the same as it did then. This was before grippatank and pure freedom brought their versions out.
if you do a search marc m did a quick video on the pure freedom one.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: p1w1 on June 14, 2018, 04:47:20 pm
if i start having problems then ill get an electric reel but no sign yet... 8)
ever heard the phrase "prevention is better than cure"  ;)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: NWH on June 14, 2018, 05:30:53 pm
That anti snag option with have it stopping and starting left right and centre even when the hose is cooled up it will stop,in the real window cleaning world the hose won’t be all laid out perfect so it’ll be stop starting all the time. With the waterworks reel you get to know how to use it if you think it’s likely to snag you ease it in if you can see or know there’s no obstacles you can go flat out. No doubt it allows you to do more work with an electric reel I’ve said so many times the hardest part of the job is the manual reeling in,if you are like me and use almost half or more hose each job it’s a must have,if your like Daz and have tin pot houses don’t worry about it 😂. Seriously though a must have WFP item to have it saves loads of energy.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: robbo333 on June 14, 2018, 05:53:10 pm
Ronnie

Can I suggest you also try pole hose on your main reel.

I had tennis elbow, about 6 years ago, and it became very painful, so I lightened everything; poles, brushes and hose.
I have used Gardiners reinforced pole hose (about 60m) on my main reel for the last 5 years and it is great. Very light to use, very light to pull round the house, very light to reel in, it's yellow and it lays flat.  No loss in pressure and my surflo pump has been fine.

I know Gardiners don't warranty it for that use, but mine has been fine and I shall be replacing it soon, with the same again.

It's made a big difference for me and for the price, it's got to be worth a punt.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: brianbarber on June 14, 2018, 06:40:38 pm
I was about to order one, felt reel was hard work.
 Don't know what  made me think of it, gave it some wd40, jeez what a difference.
 Carrying on nowmwith the manual
Another imprivemt if you mount in van but off the floor , higher it is less bending which results in not having to stoop in to rear of van.

Mr B
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: lozsing on June 14, 2018, 07:20:39 pm
i have the pure freedom one, I like the anti snag its not too sensitive. also I have it through floor so the soft start is great for when  the end of the hose gets near the hole. just press off and on again straight away and it comes through hole gently not like a bullet . very pleased with it had it a about 3 months .
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Jonny 87 on June 14, 2018, 10:54:23 pm
Johnny, Nwh, does the waterworks have a snag detection cut out?

It doesn’t, but I’ve never had an issue. The soft start is a good add on the the pure freedom reel has.

Either choice and you will love it. I’m jist not convinced the pure freedom is worth the extra.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Den68 on June 15, 2018, 06:49:34 am
I have the water works reel, as I have a dicky shoulder within a couple of the days the pain receded not had a problem with my shoulder since that’s nearly 2 years ago. Highly recommended as already said prevention is better than cure, try and future proof yourself.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 15, 2018, 07:25:58 am
What’s the recommended battery size to run an electric reel and pump for the day?
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: lozsing on June 15, 2018, 09:28:23 am
I have a 110amp runs both all day
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: matthewprice on June 15, 2018, 12:34:35 pm
Got a 180 amp runs pump plus reel for 5 .5 days with a bit to spare before bench charging
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 15, 2018, 12:51:43 pm
Iv got an 85ah , not sure whether it’ll be ok
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Michael Peterson on June 18, 2018, 02:07:09 pm
It will be fine
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 18, 2018, 03:27:46 pm
It will be fine

Cheers 🍻
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Ronnie Bryce on June 19, 2018, 05:12:55 pm
Well I bought the waterworks hd  reel, worked with it today and just wish I had done it sooner, it simply makes a fantastic difference to my working day and would recommend a powered reel to anyone. The difference in elbow joint pain was night and day compared to hand cranking every inch of hose. Thanks for the advice and recommendations lads, very much appreciated. Ronnie.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 20, 2018, 08:48:32 am
Well I bought the waterworks hd  reel, worked with it today and just wish I had done it sooner, it simply makes a fantastic difference to my working day and would recommend a powered reel to anyone. The difference in elbow joint pain was night and day compared to hand cranking every inch of hose. Thanks for the advice and recommendations lads, very much appreciated. Ronnie.

good luck ronnie i hope it improves your shoulder/elbow issues.... :)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 20, 2018, 02:08:09 pm
Iv just ordered pure freedoms reelmaster - let’s see what all the fuss is about   ;D
Getting delivered next week  :)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: zesty on June 20, 2018, 03:48:26 pm
Iv just ordered pure freedoms reelmaster - let’s see what all the fuss is about   ;D
Getting delivered next week  :)

Keep us posted shrek, thinking of changing mine to pure freedom one.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 20, 2018, 04:01:56 pm
Iv just ordered pure freedoms reelmaster - let’s see what all the fuss is about   ;D
Getting delivered next week  :)

Keep us posted shrek, thinking of changing mine to pure freedom one.

Will do , Iv actually been looking at them for ages but thought I’d keep an eye on the forum and see what others think before I hand over 600 squid . I honestly think it will make my life easier, I go to some big properties where I’m there upto an hour, then after , I really can’t be arsed reeling in   ;D
Hardly any of my work is next door to each other so I think it’ll be a time saver + it’ll be better on my tennis elbow which flares up now and again
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 20, 2018, 04:52:27 pm
what fittings are you getting with the reelmaster shrek?as in the barb on the inside of the reel to fit your hose and the fitting on the  side of the reel to fit your hose from your pump/heater etc?theres no option(in the drop down menu) to have a rectus 26 fitting on the side of the reel and a 8mm barb on the inside(so that my 6mm hose will fit tight)as thats what i would want.....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 20, 2018, 05:14:09 pm
what fittings are you getting with the reelmaster shrek?as in the barb on the inside of the reel to fit your hose and the fitting on the on the side of the reel to fit your hose from your pump/heater etc?theres no option(in the drop down menu) to have a rectus 26 fitting on the side of the reel and a 8mm barb on the inside(so that my 6mm hose will fit tight)as thats what i would want.....

Hi daz , I’m not actually getting any fittings from pure freedom as I already bought a load of o clips a few weeks back.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1529510855_C6D172D1-E340-4A26-95E9-9A189F6FD339.png)

I’m presuming you just push your hose on here and secure with an o clip or jubilee ( I’m hoping so anyway! Because I’m useless with plumbing & electrics)
I asked about the wires for the battery, as Iv already got crocodile clips on there coming from my flow controller. He said there will be plenty of room to connect the hose on to the battery terminals with the croc clips .
Iv got an 85ah battery and was advised that the reel doesn’t really use very much power at all and will be sufficient 👍
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 20, 2018, 05:32:24 pm
what fittings are you getting with the reelmaster shrek?as in the barb on the inside of the reel to fit your hose and the fitting on the on the side of the reel to fit your hose from your pump/heater etc?theres no option(in the drop down menu) to have a rectus 26 fitting on the side of the reel and a 8mm barb on the inside(so that my 6mm hose will fit tight)as thats what i would want.....

Hi daz , I’m not actually getting any fittings from pure freedom as I already bought a load of o clips a few weeks back.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1529510855_C6D172D1-E340-4A26-95E9-9A189F6FD339.png)

I’m presuming you just push your hose on here and secure with an o clip or jubilee ( I’m hoping so anyway! Because I’m useless with plumbing & electrics)
I asked about the wires for the battery, as Iv already got crocodile clips on there coming from my flow controller. He said there will be plenty of room to connect the hose on to the battery terminals with the croc clips .
Iv got an 85ah battery and was advised that the reel doesn’t really use very much power at all and will be sufficient 👍

the pure freedom site is not very clear.....the barb might be too small for your hose and that fitting is(by the looks of it)a screw thread barb fitting,id rather have a male rectus 26 fitting on the side,the inside of the hose reel also will have a barb fitting but if its 6mm its normally too small for a good tight leak free fitting (if your using 6mm hose),its better to get the 8mm barb and force it on for a nice tight fit but theres no option on the pure freedom site to do that... ::)roll
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 20, 2018, 05:44:22 pm
what fittings are you getting with the reelmaster shrek?as in the barb on the inside of the reel to fit your hose and the fitting on the on the side of the reel to fit your hose from your pump/heater etc?theres no option(in the drop down menu) to have a rectus 26 fitting on the side of the reel and a 8mm barb on the inside(so that my 6mm hose will fit tight)as thats what i would want.....

Hi daz , I’m not actually getting any fittings from pure freedom as I already bought a load of o clips a few weeks back.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1529510855_C6D172D1-E340-4A26-95E9-9A189F6FD339.png)

I’m presuming you just push your hose on here and secure with an o clip or jubilee ( I’m hoping so anyway! Because I’m useless with plumbing & electrics)
I asked about the wires for the battery, as Iv already got crocodile clips on there coming from my flow controller. He said there will be plenty of room to connect the hose on to the battery terminals with the croc clips .
Iv got an 85ah battery and was advised that the reel doesn’t really use very much power at all and will be sufficient 👍

the pure freedom site is not very clear.....the barb might be too small for your hose and that fitting is(by the looks of it)a screw thread barb fitting,id rather have a male rectus 26 fitting on the side,the inside of the hose reel also will have a barb fitting but if its 6mm its normally too small for a good tight leak free fitting (if your using 6mm hose),its better to get the 8mm barb and force it on for a nice tight fit but theres no option on the pure freedom site to do that... ::)roll

I’m not sure mate , best thing to do is probably ring them - they build everything there and supply the reels with hose so I’m sure they would be able to build it to your specification pal
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 20, 2018, 05:45:29 pm
i have 2 x 105ah leisure batteries(wired up in tandem) down the side of my tank so itd be no problem to add the electrical connection from the back of the reelmaster.....

if i do go ahead and purchase one ill have to phone them up first as id want different connections on the side and inside the reel....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 20, 2018, 05:51:19 pm
i have 2 x 105ah leisure batteries(wired up in tandem) down the side of my tank so itd be no problem to add the electrical connection from the back of the reelmaster.....

if i do go ahead and purchase one ill have to phone them up first as id want different connections on the side and inside the reel....

They are actually quite helpful, I bought a controller and pump on a back board a while ago and asked them to put some crocodile clips on the wires so it’s easy to connect to the battery terminals , and they did no problem. Il post some pictures of mine next week
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: p1w1 on June 20, 2018, 05:57:18 pm
i have 2 x 105ah leisure batteries(wired up in tandem) down the side of my tank so itd be no problem to add the electrical connection from the back of the reelmaster.....

if i do go ahead and purchase one ill have to phone them up first as id want different connections on the side and inside the reel....
won't you miss your cardio workout while reeling in  ::)roll  ;D
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 20, 2018, 06:02:52 pm
i have 2 x 105ah leisure batteries(wired up in tandem) down the side of my tank so itd be no problem to add the electrical connection from the back of the reelmaster.....

if i do go ahead and purchase one ill have to phone them up first as id want different connections on the side and inside the reel....
won't you miss your cardio workout while reeling in  ::)roll  ;D

ive not decided whether to go ahead yet mate... ;)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 20, 2018, 06:04:49 pm
i have 2 x 105ah leisure batteries(wired up in tandem) down the side of my tank so itd be no problem to add the electrical connection from the back of the reelmaster.....

if i do go ahead and purchase one ill have to phone them up first as id want different connections on the side and inside the reel....

They are actually quite helpful, I bought a controller and pump on a back board a while ago and asked them to put some crocodile clips on the wires so it’s easy to connect to the battery terminals , and they did no problem. Il post some pictures of mine next week

yep post some pics mate when you ve got it set up.....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: p1w1 on June 20, 2018, 06:07:38 pm
i have 2 x 105ah leisure batteries(wired up in tandem) down the side of my tank so itd be no problem to add the electrical connection from the back of the reelmaster.....

if i do go ahead and purchase one ill have to phone them up first as id want different connections on the side and inside the reel....

won't you miss your cardio workout while reeling in  ::)roll  ;D

ive not decided whether to go ahead yet mate... ;)
i give it 2 weeks if that
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 20, 2018, 07:51:47 pm
just ordered one(PURE FREEDOM REELMASTER)(with 6mm of red hose).the side barb looks like its half inch so my hose from the heater will just fit straight on..... ;)

ill keep the manual cox reel(with red hose) as a spare.....

these reels are not cheap but they look the business.its cost me £639 including delivery,VAT and 100m of hose..... :o
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 20, 2018, 08:00:53 pm
just ordered one(PURE FREEDOM REELMASTER)(with 6mm of red hose).the side barb looks like its half inch so my hose from the heater will just fit straight on..... ;)

ill keep the manual cox reel(with red hose) as a spare.....

these reels are not cheap but they look the business.its cost me £639 including delivery,VAT and 100m of hose..... :o

They are defo top of the range out of all the reels , that’s why I went for that one. I only buy stuff if I need it and this will be a nice piece of kit . Although the website says 2 days , the guy on the phone said they build them for every order so it’ll arrive next week , can’t wait!  :)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 20, 2018, 08:07:45 pm
just ordered an xtreme 25( v3)as well at £642! ::)roll ;D

might as well go the whole hog......hot water,electric reel and xtreme pole..... 8)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: lozsing on June 20, 2018, 09:49:40 pm
love my reelmaster ,
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 20, 2018, 10:19:09 pm
love my reelmaster ,

how long have you had yours mate?and how did you fit it to your battery?croc clips?or a fixed connection?i think id rather fix it to my battery.....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: lozsing on June 20, 2018, 10:27:42 pm
about 4 months , the cables are quite thick so there straight to the battery along with my flow controller with croc clips
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Stoots on June 20, 2018, 10:58:05 pm
just ordered an xtreme 25( v3)as well at £642! ::)roll ;D

might as well go the whole hog......hot water,electric reel and xtreme pole..... 8)

I can't believe my eyes  :D

You have ordered an extreme pole and a leccy reel  ;D

All I ever read from you is manual reel this and slx that

You'll be going back to cold next !
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Dry Clean on June 20, 2018, 11:26:22 pm
just ordered an xtreme 25( v3)as well at £642! ::)roll ;D

might as well go the whole hog......hot water,electric reel and xtreme pole..... 8)

I can't believe my eyes  :D

You have ordered an extreme pole and a leccy reel  ;D

All I ever read from you is manual reel this and slx that

You'll be going back to cold next !

He's already done the going back to cold because in his own words (said more than once )  it didn't make a difference, when its comes to Dazmond don't expect logic. lol.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Jonny 87 on June 21, 2018, 07:12:56 am
just ordered an xtreme 25( v3)as well at £642! ::)roll ;D

might as well go the whole hog......hot water,electric reel and xtreme pole..... 8)

Good decision.  :)

It’s definitely the way to go. Make things as easy as possible.

An extreme pole every two years and your sorted. The reel will last a lifetime time probably.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: John Mart on June 21, 2018, 07:30:32 am
just ordered an xtreme 25( v3)as well at £642! ::)roll ;D

might as well go the whole hog......hot water,electric reel and xtreme pole..... 8)
That is funny!  ;D
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 21, 2018, 08:52:23 am
just ordered an xtreme 25( v3)as well at £642! ::)roll ;D

might as well go the whole hog......hot water,electric reel and xtreme pole..... 8)

I can't believe my eyes  :D

You have ordered an extreme pole and a leccy reel  ;D

All I ever read from you is manual reel this and slx that

You'll be going back to cold next !

yep.might as well see what the fuss is about.....ive never used a leccy reel so it might make a difference over the course of a day/week/month/year/decade....as for the xtreme pole ive got 2 weeks worth of work that have lots of very awkward windows above extensions,large conservatories etc and i think the xtreme will help.

dont get me wrong the SLX is the best value hardwearing pole but for ease of use you cant beat the xtreme....

i feel invincible at the moment (health wise) but im not kidding myself......ill be 50 in a few years so keeping my working life as easy as possible should help with reducing the risk of RSI as i grow older........

i think ronnie helped me make my mind up for me(him being 8-9 years older than me)and suffering badly with shoulder/elbow issues.....

....and another forum member mentioned PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN THE CURE.........it got me thinking about the future......im hoping ive got at least another 30 years of window cleaning left in me(which will take me up to 76 yrs of age)ill have probably had enough by then...... ;D
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: lozsing on June 21, 2018, 11:50:14 am
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1529578211_B9155BB4-815C-4307-B318-3B2EC53EDD08.jpeg)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 21, 2018, 12:28:01 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1529578211_B9155BB4-815C-4307-B318-3B2EC53EDD08.jpeg)

Was it easy enough to bolt in to the floor? Do you need to go under the van ?
Cheers
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: lozsing on June 21, 2018, 03:42:06 pm
yes I did but only for 1 bolt which was hidden behind spare wheel
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 21, 2018, 03:55:57 pm
yes I did but only for 1 bolt which was hidden behind spare wheel

Cheers
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 21, 2018, 04:45:19 pm
yes I did but only for 1 bolt which was hidden behind spare wheel

Cheers

i dont bolt my reels to the van floor...i simply bolt them to a piece of black plastic covered plywood that covers the back space of the van....saves drilling holes in your van floor..... ;)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Stoots on June 21, 2018, 06:01:21 pm
They look quality, i want one

so expensive though, 600 and odd quid for a reel  :'(

I want an extreme as well  :'(

lucky chaps
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 21, 2018, 06:09:13 pm
They look quality, i want one

so expensive though, 600 and odd quid for a reel  :'(

I want an extreme as well  :'(

lucky chaps

the way your going adam theres no reason why you wont be able to afford both in the future with all your new work and money you must be earning?
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 21, 2018, 06:34:37 pm
yes I did but only for 1 bolt which was hidden behind spare wheel

Cheers

i dont bolt my reels to the van floor...i simply bolt them to a piece of black plastic covered plywood that covers the back space of the van....saves drilling holes in your van floor..... ;)

I think it may need bolting to the floor as it’s quite heavy , will have to wait and see  :)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 21, 2018, 06:36:23 pm
They look quality, i want one

so expensive though, 600 and odd quid for a reel  :'(

I want an extreme as well  :'(

lucky chaps

I thought you just went Ltd? You must be coining it in pal! go on , treat yourself
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Tristan R Clean on June 21, 2018, 09:00:51 pm
Out of interest Daz - Why the reelmaster and not the Grippatank electric reel?

Tris
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 21, 2018, 09:42:23 pm
Out of interest Daz - Why the reelmaster and not the Grippatank electric reel?

Tris

Reelmaster , looks the dogs b•locks -£600

Grippatank reel , looks like a hd power up - £950

Hmm...
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Tristan R Clean on June 21, 2018, 10:03:34 pm
Grippatank reel - stainless steel , no chain
Reelmaster, Waterworks - powder coated steel and chain

Tris
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 21, 2018, 10:23:09 pm
Grippatanks powder coated reel is £850 , then the controller is another £290. It’s just too much compared to what you get from pure freedom
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 21, 2018, 10:49:19 pm
Out of interest Daz - Why the reelmaster and not the Grippatank electric reel?

Tris

A few window cleaners have had a few niggles with the grippa reel plus I think its ridiculously expensive. I think £600 is expensive but not as bad as nearer a grand.....

Good reviews of the reelmaster and it looks great too IMO....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Stoots on June 21, 2018, 10:52:19 pm
They look quality, i want one

so expensive though, 600 and odd quid for a reel  :'(

I want an extreme as well  :'(

lucky chaps

I thought you just went Ltd? You must be coining it in pal! go on , treat yourself

Saving for a bigger van mate so i can push on and find another employee, mines too small for a two man really but its on finance. wish i had bought a bigger one to start with...

then i may be ready to compete with you big boys and afford a posh reel  ;D
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 21, 2018, 11:03:56 pm
They look quality, i want one

so expensive though, 600 and odd quid for a reel  :'(

I want an extreme as well  :'(

lucky chaps

I thought you just went Ltd? You must be coining it in pal! go on , treat yourself

Saving for a bigger van mate so i can push on and find another employee, mines too small for a two man really but its on finance. wish i had bought a bigger one to start with...

then i may be ready to compete with you big boys and afford a posh reel  ;D

Fair enough pal
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Dry Clean on June 22, 2018, 07:35:19 am
just ordered an xtreme 25( v3)as well at £642! ::)roll ;D

might as well go the whole hog......hot water,electric reel and xtreme pole..... 8)

I can't believe my eyes  :D

You have ordered an extreme pole and a leccy reel  ;D

All I ever read from you is manual reel this and slx that

You'll be going back to cold next !

yep.might as well see what the fuss is about.....ive never used a leccy reel so it might make a difference over the course of a day/week/month/year/decade....as for the xtreme pole ive got 2 weeks worth of work that have lots of very awkward windows above extensions,large conservatories etc and i think the xtreme will help.

dont get me wrong the SLX is the best value hardwearing pole but for ease of use you cant beat the xtreme....

i feel invincible at the moment (health wise) but im not kidding myself......ill be 50 in a few years so keeping my working life as easy as possible should help with reducing the risk of RSI as i grow older........

i think ronnie helped me make my mind up for me(him being 8-9 years older than me)and suffering badly with shoulder/elbow issues.....

....and another forum member mentioned PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN THE CURE.........it got me thinking about the future......im hoping ive got at least another 30 years of window cleaning left in me(which will take me up to 76 yrs of age)ill have probably had enough by then...... ;D

Dazmond you need to stop listening to nonsense, RSI is caused by doing repetitive work non stop for long periods of time therefore spending a few minutes reeling in a hose 4 or 5 times a day is not going to give you it.
What you really want to prevent is neck pain from looking up all day which even with the best technique will eventually hit us all, theres nothing wrong with making the working day easier but it needs to be done in a sensible and cost effective way or in
other words benefit v cost.
I'm not saying an £650 electric reel is going to break the bank but an electric reel on top of a new van loan, an overpriced water heater and the yearly cost of running it, a £650 pole every two years for low level work and so on, I'm not even going to try and
work out what your yearly expenses are now but they're bound to be far too high for somebody on less than £40k a year.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 22, 2018, 07:53:35 am
just ordered an xtreme 25( v3)as well at £642! ::)roll ;D

might as well go the whole hog......hot water,electric reel and xtreme pole..... 8)

I can't believe my eyes  :D

You have ordered an extreme pole and a leccy reel  ;D

All I ever read from you is manual reel this and slx that

You'll be going back to cold next !

yep.might as well see what the fuss is about.....ive never used a leccy reel so it might make a difference over the course of a day/week/month/year/decade....as for the xtreme pole ive got 2 weeks worth of work that have lots of very awkward windows above extensions,large conservatories etc and i think the xtreme will help.

dont get me wrong the SLX is the best value hardwearing pole but for ease of use you cant beat the xtreme....

i feel invincible at the moment (health wise) but im not kidding myself......ill be 50 in a few years so keeping my working life as easy as possible should help with reducing the risk of RSI as i grow older........

i think ronnie helped me make my mind up for me(him being 8-9 years older than me)and suffering badly with shoulder/elbow issues.....

....and another forum member mentioned PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN THE CURE.........it got me thinking about the future......im hoping ive got at least another 30 years of window cleaning left in me(which will take me up to 76 yrs of age)ill have probably had enough by then...... ;D

Dazmond you need to stop listening to nonsense, RSI is caused by doing repetitive work non stop for long periods of time therefore spending a few minutes reeling in a hose 4 or 5 times a day is not going to give you it.
What you really want to prevent is neck pain from looking up all day which even with the best technique will eventually hit us all, theres nothing wrong with making the working day easier but it needs to be done in a sensible and cost effective way or in
other words benefit v cost.
I'm not saying an £650 electric reel is going to break the bank but an electric reel on top of a new van loan, an overpriced water heater and the yearly cost of running it, a £650 pole every two years for low level work and so on, I'm not even going to try and
work out what your yearly expenses are now but they're bound to be far too high for somebody on less than £40k a year.

im not on less than 40k a year sean and my expenses this year alone is over 5k.....anyway its none on your business..ill spend my money on whatever i like mate....... :-*
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 22, 2018, 07:59:32 am
itll make my working day easier sean.....dont forget i live a very active life outside of window cleaning too....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Dry Clean on June 22, 2018, 08:18:04 am
just ordered an xtreme 25( v3)as well at £642! ::)roll ;D

might as well go the whole hog......hot water,electric reel and xtreme pole..... 8)

I can't believe my eyes  :D

You have ordered an extreme pole and a leccy reel  ;D

All I ever read from you is manual reel this and slx that

You'll be going back to cold next !

yep.might as well see what the fuss is about.....ive never used a leccy reel so it might make a difference over the course of a day/week/month/year/decade....as for the xtreme pole ive got 2 weeks worth of work that have lots of very awkward windows above extensions,large conservatories etc and i think the xtreme will help.

dont get me wrong the SLX is the best value hardwearing pole but for ease of use you cant beat the xtreme....

i feel invincible at the moment (health wise) but im not kidding myself......ill be 50 in a few years so keeping my working life as easy as possible should help with reducing the risk of RSI as i grow older........

i think ronnie helped me make my mind up for me(him being 8-9 years older than me)and suffering badly with shoulder/elbow issues.....

....and another forum member mentioned PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN THE CURE.........it got me thinking about the future......im hoping ive got at least another 30 years of window cleaning left in me(which will take me up to 76 yrs of age)ill have probably had enough by then...... ;D

Dazmond you need to stop listening to nonsense, RSI is caused by doing repetitive work non stop for long periods of time therefore spending a few minutes reeling in a hose 4 or 5 times a day is not going to give you it.
What you really want to prevent is neck pain from looking up all day which even with the best technique will eventually hit us all, theres nothing wrong with making the working day easier but it needs to be done in a sensible and cost effective way or in
other words benefit v cost.
I'm not saying an £650 electric reel is going to break the bank but an electric reel on top of a new van loan, an overpriced water heater and the yearly cost of running it, a £650 pole every two years for low level work and so on, I'm not even going to try and
work out what your yearly expenses are now but they're bound to be far too high for somebody on less than £40k a year.

im not on less than 40k a year sean and my expenses this year alone is over 5k.....anyway its none on your business..ill spend my money on whatever i like mate....... :-*

If you don't want people posting on how you spend your money then do what the rest of us do and don't post it on here,
once posted on here it is open for discussion no matter if its something you want to hear or not.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Stoots on June 22, 2018, 08:22:23 am
I think l we have to remember daz pays council rent is single and has no kids

Some of us are mortgaged or paying higher rents with loads of kids, wives and expenses.

Hence why daz is happy being a sole trader and some of us have to push on and try to grow to cover our outgoings.

Just my observations I may be wrong.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Dry Clean on June 22, 2018, 08:45:32 am
itll make my working day easier sean.....dont forget i live a very active life outside of window cleaning too....

If you where to only clean one small semi a day it would still make your working day easier but it wouldnt justify the cost, as you
rightly said earlier you dont do enough reeling to justify the cost.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dd on June 22, 2018, 04:03:58 pm
Going by the feedback on here from people who have suffered some form of RSI in their shoulder or elbow, and how it has cleared up after switching to an electric reel - I think we have to assume using a manual reel can cause , or contribute to RSI.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Dry Clean on June 22, 2018, 04:43:35 pm
Going by the feedback on here from people who have suffered some form of RSI in their shoulder or elbow, and how it has cleared up after switching to an electric reel - I think we have to assume using a manual reel can cause , or contribute to RSI.

What about rowing a pole up and down on the glass all day everyday, lets be honest when people on here spend money on anything thats not a basic need all sorts of miracles seem to happen .
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 22, 2018, 05:38:42 pm
Going by the feedback on here from people who have suffered some form of RSI in their shoulder or elbow, and how it has cleared up after switching to an electric reel - I think we have to assume using a manual reel can cause , or contribute to RSI.

What about rowing a pole up and down on the glass all day everyday, lets be honest when people on here spend money on anything thats not a basic need all sorts of miracles seem to happen .

who wants the basic stuff though really?i could of just kept with a 14 yr old kangoo van,a claber reel and a CLX.....or i could of just got a poverty spec van with no air con,heated seat etc.....i could of got a basic 1.2L golf instead of a golf GTD......I could of booked a week in margate instead of a 5 star hotel in spain for me and the missus....the list goes on.......

....if you can afford it go for it....you only live once....... 8)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Pete Thompson on June 22, 2018, 06:16:36 pm
I’m seriously thinking about getting one, in my opinion anything that reduces fatigue during the day is worth it.

I’ll need the double one, and I like the look of the reel master pure freedom one.  £1,075, it’s a fair whack but if it saves energy (and therefore time) it will pay for itself.

Just a couple of things I’m not too sure about though. Firstly, I’m never going to work with the van doors open, so it will mean cutting 2 holes in my new vans floor. I hate the thought of that! But I know there’s not really any other option.

Secondly, I currently leave my reel outside the van and just “point” it in the direction I’m working. With a power reel will I have to always park the van with the back facing the work? That’s not always possible. What do you guys do?
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 22, 2018, 06:23:23 pm
i phoned pure freedom up today to make sure they fit an 8mm barb on the inside of the reel so its a good tight fit for my 6mm hose.i also asked them to fit the hose too before delivery... ;)

theres at least a weeks waiting time for delivery,.maybe longer as their selling a lot of them at the moment and their waiting for some components/parts to be delivered.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 22, 2018, 06:27:45 pm
I’m seriously thinking about getting one, in my opinion anything that reduces fatigue during the day is worth it.

I’ll need the double one, and I like the look of the reel master pure freedom one.  £1,075, it’s a fair whack but if it saves energy (and therefore time) it will pay for itself.

Just a couple of things I’m not too sure about though. Firstly, I’m never going to work with the van doors open, so it will mean cutting 2 holes in my new vans floor. I hate the thought of that! But I know there’s not really any other option.

Secondly, I currently leave my reel outside the van and just “point” it in the direction I’m working. With a power reel will I have to always park the van with the back facing the work? That’s not always possible. What do you guys do?

just leave a van door open.thats what i do...and i have my reel fixed to black plastic covered chipboard so no drilling holes in my vans floor......

i usually park the back of the van facing my work but like you say its not always possible so just drag the hose around the side of the van no problem....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 22, 2018, 06:33:16 pm
i phoned pure freedom up today to make sure they fit an 8mm barb on the inside of the reel so its a good tight fit for my 6mm hose.i also asked them to fit the hose too before delivery... ;)

theres at least a weeks waiting time for delivery,.maybe longer as their selling a lot of them at the moment and their waiting for some components/parts to be delivered.

Great! 🙄 hope I get mine next week as Iv got some spare time to fit it
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 22, 2018, 06:36:09 pm
I’m seriously thinking about getting one, in my opinion anything that reduces fatigue during the day is worth it.

I’ll need the double one, and I like the look of the reel master pure freedom one.  £1,075, it’s a fair whack but if it saves energy (and therefore time) it will pay for itself.

Just a couple of things I’m not too sure about though. Firstly, I’m never going to work with the van doors open, so it will mean cutting 2 holes in my new vans floor. I hate the thought of that! But I know there’s not really any other option.

Secondly, I currently leave my reel outside the van and just “point” it in the direction I’m working. With a power reel will I have to always park the van with the back facing the work? That’s not always possible. What do you guys do?

Same as daz , if I’m going to be a while then I pull the hose out, place it in between the doors and then trap it by closing the door. Not lifting your hose reel out at each job will save you a bag full of energy too!
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dd on June 22, 2018, 06:54:12 pm
i phoned pure freedom up today to make sure they fit an 8mm barb on the inside of the reel so its a good tight fit for my 6mm hose.i also asked them to fit the hose too before delivery... ;)

theres at least a weeks waiting time for delivery,.maybe longer as their selling a lot of them at the moment and their waiting for some components/parts to be delivered.
Can you manage to fit 6mm hose to an 8mm barb?
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 22, 2018, 07:12:17 pm
i phoned pure freedom up today to make sure they fit an 8mm barb on the inside of the reel so its a good tight fit for my 6mm hose.i also asked them to fit the hose too before delivery... ;)

theres at least a weeks waiting time for delivery,.maybe longer as their selling a lot of them at the moment and their waiting for some components/parts to be delivered.
Can you manage to fit 6mm hose to an 8mm barb?

of course once the hose as been in hot water.its a tight fit but it needs to be if your using a hot water system or else the hose slides off the barb after a while IME if using a  6MM barb....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Splash & dash on June 22, 2018, 09:57:43 pm
I’m seriously thinking about getting one, in my opinion anything that reduces fatigue during the day is worth it.

I’ll need the double one, and I like the look of the reel master pure freedom one.  £1,075, it’s a fair whack but if it saves energy (and therefore time) it will pay for itself.

Just a couple of things I’m not too sure about though. Firstly, I’m never going to work with the van doors open, so it will mean cutting 2 holes in my new vans floor. I hate the thought of that! But I know there’s not really any other option.

Secondly, I currently leave my reel outside the van and just “point” it in the direction I’m working. With a power reel will I have to always park the van with the back facing the work? That’s not always possible. What do you guys do?




If you need to work in front of the van just walk behind it the distance that you need to go in front plus a bit and it will work fine , it will take longer than a free standing reel in these situations we have both fixed and free standing reels so have the best of both worlds but quite often we will use the method I’ve described instead of getting them out
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Dazzler3370 on June 24, 2018, 09:51:46 am
Dazmond, great choice by the way,  if anyone wants some advice on which electric reels. After trying all 3. Value for money Pure Freedom wins hands down. I paid extra for the stainless steel one but thought it was worth it.
With regards to Extreme pole ive had my 25 ft for over 2 years now and it's still going really strong. No sections replaced. I just spray some clear lacquer on mine once every couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Pete Thompson on June 24, 2018, 10:33:14 am
If you need to work in front of the van just walk behind it the distance that you need to go in front plus a bit and it will work fine , it will take longer than a free standing reel in these situations we have both fixed and free standing reels so have the best of both worlds but quite often we will use the method I’ve described instead of getting them out

I see, thanks for that. I think I’ll try to do my entire round with the van back facing the direction of work to see just how much of my work it’s possible for. I estimate about 85%, so for the other 15% a little inconvenience will not matter too much.

Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Pete Thompson on June 24, 2018, 10:39:09 am
just leave a van door open.thats what i do...and i have my reel fixed to black plastic covered chipboard so no drilling holes in my vans floor......

i usually park the back of the van facing my work but like you say its not always possible so just drag the hose around the side of the van no problem....

I see fellas working with the back of the van open sometimes, often they’re not even in sight. Even though I live in a rural area (not much crime) I just couldn’t bring myself to do that. I’m sure it is faster though.

I checked my policy, and it’s not insured if left unlocked, and unattended. I guess you’d just have to make sure nothing valuable-looking was in the back!
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on June 24, 2018, 10:59:53 am
just leave a van door open.thats what i do...and i have my reel fixed to black plastic covered chipboard so no drilling holes in my vans floor......

i usually park the back of the van facing my work but like you say its not always possible so just drag the hose around the side of the van no problem....

I see fellas working with the back of the van open sometimes, often they’re not even in sight. Even though I live in a rural area (not much crime) I just couldn’t bring myself to do that. I’m sure it is faster though.

I checked my policy, and it’s not insured if left unlocked, and unattended. I guess you’d just have to make sure nothing valuable-looking was in the back!

I never have a problem working from back of van.  After I pull out enough hose I close the back and lock. Hose is fine under the door when closed.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Tristan R Clean on June 24, 2018, 12:24:00 pm
Dazzler you say you got the stainless steel version of the reelmaster. How much more was it? Any pictures?

Thanks
Tris
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Tristan R Clean on June 25, 2018, 06:12:15 am
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Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Tristan R Clean on June 25, 2018, 08:29:39 pm
So the question still remains unanswered.
Has anyone bought a reelmaster in stainless steel rather than powder coated version ?

Tris
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 25, 2018, 10:10:42 pm
Dazzler you say you got the stainless steel version of the reelmaster. How much more was it? Any pictures?

Thanks
Tris

why dont you phone PF up and ask them?
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Tristan R Clean on June 26, 2018, 08:10:54 am
I gave them a call yesterday. They do a stainless steel reelmaster.
I wanted stainless because the powder coating on the other reels chip off quickly.
I would of liked some photos off the members on the forum but it seems relatively few have ordered in stainless.

Tris
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 26, 2018, 08:17:58 am
I gave them a call yesterday. They do a stainless steel reelmaster.
I wanted stainless because the powder coating on the other reels chip off quickly.
I would of liked some photos off the members on the forum but it seems relatively few have ordered in stainless.

Tris

how much extra is the stainless steel version Tris?i never noticed this as an option on the PF website.....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: NWH on June 26, 2018, 03:08:25 pm
Getting 1 then Daz lol I knew you would in the end you know it makes sense.
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 26, 2018, 03:32:51 pm
Just rang them up , they said it’s getting dispatched tomorrow  :)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 26, 2018, 04:13:37 pm
Getting 1 then Daz lol I knew you would in the end you know it makes sense.

i thought why not?the pure freedom reel looks like a nice bit of kit and with buying a new xtreme 25 ill have the easiest set up you can buy....lightest poles,electric reel and hot water.....im not sure how much of a difference it will make but if i havent got one ill never know.....

no sign of reel getting delivered yet but PF said at least a weeks lead time and its been 6 days since ordering.....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 27, 2018, 04:06:09 pm
pure freedom phoned me up this morning.their building my reel today and it should be getting dispatched later today or tomorrow morning.....

they are fitting metal side discs to the reel to stop warping(due to the hot water).this should be standard on a reel of this quality and price IMO anyway....

so HOT WATER users MAKE SURE YOU TELL THEM!

Id be very disappointed if i ended up with warped discs due to using hot water after spending £600 on a reel..... ::)roll

they say they will update their website in due course.....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 28, 2018, 12:13:38 pm
Just got mine delivered- it comes on a pallet as the box is huge!
They’ll leave it on the drive if no one is in 
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 29, 2018, 01:46:11 pm
Just got mine delivered- it comes on a pallet as the box is huge!
They’ll leave it on the drive if no one is in

are you fitting yours this weekend then shrek?im still waiting for mine although it should be getting delivered today....... :)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 29, 2018, 02:44:59 pm
Just got mine delivered- it comes on a pallet as the box is huge!
They’ll leave it on the drive if no one is in

are you fitting yours this weekend then shrek?im still waiting for mine although it should be getting delivered today....... :)

All done mate , I had to get my windscreen washer fixed at the garage so asked him to bolt it in for my whilst I was there  ;D
It was just 4 holes through the van floor , bolt through and spreader plate underneath.
Was brilliant this morning using it after a conny roof clean! Turned it up to 99 now so I can reel in super fast  :D
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 29, 2018, 02:49:57 pm
Just got mine delivered- it comes on a pallet as the box is huge!
They’ll leave it on the drive if no one is in

are you fitting yours this weekend then shrek?im still waiting for mine although it should be getting delivered today....... :)

All done mate , I had to get my windscreen washer fixed at the garage so asked him to bolt it in for my whilst I was there  ;D
It was just 4 holes through the van floor , bolt through and spreader plate underneath.
Was brilliant this morning using it after a conny roof clean! Turned it up to 99 now so I can reel in super fast  :D

How did you fit it to your battery?croc clips or connectors over the battery terminals?
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 29, 2018, 03:28:40 pm
My pump/controller has croc clips so had to get 2 of those terminal connectors and screw on the wires for the reel and connect the croc clips for the pump onto the bolt of the terminal connector.
Same when I bench church at night , just connect the croc clip from charger to a bolt on the terminal connectors and jobs a good un - il take a couple of pics tonight, I’m just in the gym
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on June 29, 2018, 03:54:54 pm
What's the weight of these things then?  Make sure your payload can cope
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: P @ F on June 29, 2018, 04:52:04 pm
What's the weight of these things then?  Make sure your payload can cope

This is exactly why I cant have one , I have had to go for the lightweight option , which does the same job but is £600 cheaper   ;D

 
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 29, 2018, 05:08:54 pm
What's the weight of these things then?  Make sure your payload can cope

10kg....it's hardly gonna put you over your weight limit unless you 've got a stupidly low payload van for your tank size.....
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 29, 2018, 08:38:19 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1530300824_D3F053AD-111B-423D-B89A-E372119647D3.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1530300821_A8428D24-DDB6-466A-8437-003CC2E82138.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1530300820_CFFCB062-8298-4A6D-AA21-97BDE39C0136.jpeg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1530300813_E5A24A41-C464-4EEC-892B-995723F95425.jpeg)

Dazmond- the 2nd pic is my pump croc clip connected to terminal connector
3rd pic is pump croc clips & charger croc clips
4th pic is just the terminal connector with the red wire coming from the reel
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 29, 2018, 09:28:51 pm
cheers shrek.mine finally got delivered at 6pm (but id nipped home by then as i wasnt feeling too good)so ive not had chance to see it yet... :)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: Shrek on June 29, 2018, 09:41:35 pm
No worries , get well soon 👍
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 30, 2018, 06:37:14 pm
im fitting mine tomorrow shrek.i also got the black version like yours with the red braided hose(great for hot water)although my reel should have metal discs instead of black ones to withstand hot water use(ive not opened it yet its still on the pallet!).ill take a few pics on how i set mine up(itll be a little different to yours).....

looking forward to it as ive done nothing for 3 days.feeling a lot better today so i should be even better tomorrow....its been a long 3 days!
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: P @ F on June 30, 2018, 06:50:16 pm
Daz , I have totally forgot mate , where did you say you park the van overnight ?   :-*
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: dazmond on June 30, 2018, 07:16:57 pm
Daz , I have totally forgot mate , where did you say you park the van overnight ?   :-*

in a dimly lit area(the only thing you gotta watch out for are the machete wielding drug dealers)..... ;)
Title: Re: Waterworks or Reelmaster?
Post by: P @ F on June 30, 2018, 10:51:41 pm
Dont worry Daz , as soon as im out of the tub i will be over to scare them baddies away  ;D