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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: paul alan on May 24, 2018, 07:35:31 am
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Didn't get home till 8pm last night and was completely goosed, was so tired when I got into bed I couldn't sleep.
Anyone else get fed with the workload?
I would love to do less but need to be progressing and cant afford to take a step backwards, crap situation.
What I wouldn't do for a month off, got two weeks off in August but it seems so far away!
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Didn't get home till 8pm last night and was completely goosed, was so tired when I got into bed I couldn't sleep.
Anyone else get fed with the workload?
I would love to do less but need to be progressing and cant afford to take a step backwards, crap situation.
What I wouldn't do for a month off, got two weeks off in August but it seems so far away!
Do you need to do what you are doing? It sounds as though you are over stretching yourself. Are you actually progressing? What happens next year?
I'm in a similar postion but my blacklog of work is due to my deteriorating ability to maintain my cleaning schedule due to age and health. So in actuality, I'm going backwards - yes, eventually toward my demise. Its very frustrating but I'm on the wrong side of youth.
Take it from me. Someone who chases the job (money targets) just ends up unhappy. You need to be balanced and spend quality time with the family. They are the most important people in your life. Your customers are also important, but not as important as your family.
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Mate you are doing far too much , put your prices up and do less work for more money .
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Mate you are doing far too much , put your prices up and do less work for more money .
I considered that earlier on in the year, but have bought a franchise package so the priority now is work volume and the prices whilst needing to be good dont need to be stellar. S o I'm sticking with the prices I have as any franchisee's only need to net me £30 ph.
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Didn't get home till 8pm last night and was completely goosed, was so tired when I got into bed I couldn't sleep.
Anyone else get fed with the workload?
I would love to do less but need to be progressing and cant afford to take a step backwards, crap situation.
What I wouldn't do for a month off, got two weeks off in August but it seems so far away!
Do you need to do what you are doing? It sounds as though you are over stretching yourself. Are you actually progressing? What happens next year?
I'm in a similar postion but my blacklog of work is due to my deteriorating ability to maintain my cleaning schedule due to age and health. So in actuality, I'm going backwards - yes, eventually toward my demise. Its very frustrating but I'm on the wrong side of youth.
Take it from me. Someone who chases the job (money targets) just ends up unhappy. You need to be balanced and spend quality time with the family. They are the most important people in your life. Your customers are also important, but not as important as your family.
I agree spruce, I feel a bit stuck right now.
Last night for the last hour was just getting pee'd off with myself and felt like a right fool!
I actually finished my schedule at 6pm but I had promised someone a full in and out clean as the house is being pictured this morning for sale. There was bloody render all over the frames, never doing one of them again!
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Didn't get home till 8pm last night and was completely goosed, was so tired when I got into bed I couldn't sleep.
Anyone else get fed with the workload?
I would love to do less but need to be progressing and cant afford to take a step backwards, crap situation.
What I wouldn't do for a month off, got two weeks off in August but it seems so far away!
i work no more than 25-30 hours a week all year round(46 weeks of the year)that brings me in a turnover of £42-£45,000 a year......im happy with that......
personally i wouldnt want to work any longer hours these days as i like my leisure time(gym 3 times a week/playing drums etc)....
also i dont get too bored/burnt out with window cleaning working these hours......
in my trad days id do 45+ hours a week some weeks but i was years younger and 4 hours a week was collecting!! ;D
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you need to get a handle on work life balance - its all too easy ( for some of us ) to feel obligated to customers and fit in that one last job.
if its because your in a hole money wise get make a short term plan, priorortise the bills and pay them off over a short set period you really need to factor in rest/fun periods into your schedule otherwise you'll go POP then be go good to no one
Darran
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Didn't get home till 8pm last night and was completely goosed, was so tired when I got into bed I couldn't sleep.
Anyone else get fed with the workload?
I would love to do less but need to be progressing and cant afford to take a step backwards, crap situation.
What I wouldn't do for a month off, got two weeks off in August but it seems so far away!
Do you need to do what you are doing? It sounds as though you are over stretching yourself. Are you actually progressing? What happens next year?
I'm in a similar postion but my blacklog of work is due to my deteriorating ability to maintain my cleaning schedule due to age and health. So in actuality, I'm going backwards - yes, eventually toward my demise. Its very frustrating but I'm on the wrong side of youth.
Take it from me. Someone who chases the job (money targets) just ends up unhappy. You need to be balanced and spend quality time with the family. They are the most important people in your life. Your customers are also important, but not as important as your family.
I agree spruce, I feel a bit stuck right now.
Last night for the last hour was just getting pee'd off with myself and felt like a right fool!
I actually finished my schedule at 6pm but I had promised someone a full in and out clean as the house is being pictured this morning for sale. There was bloody render all over the frames, never doing one of them again!
theres you problem right there paul!last time i really felt fed up with the job was doing a 4 hour builders clean(for a commercial client i already have work with so felt obliged to do it).it was a nightmare job and took me a good hour longer than anticipated.... ::)roll ;D
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I'm on holiday at the minute sat in the sun having my breakfast.. so sorry about that but....
I lost my employee day before i went away,
We parted ways amicably, he wanted to go self employed, I wasn't too bothered as was getting a bit fed up with extra workload it requires running a second van.
So that has left me considering my plans going forward. The workload I have left I can probably manage solo but I can't work 8 hours a day on the glass on my own forever, it's boring for a start but mainly just draining. No fun getting in and just wanting to sleep.
On the flip side employing whilst physically easier is mentally draining.
It does leave you questioning what's the point in trying to earn loads of money, more money more problems, more stress, more workload etc.
When I get back I'm going to refine what I have and really work on quality over quantity.
I'm going to look at subbing/renting/selling what I have left over and then look at something else.
I have an idea for an online business.
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My plan is to take on 5 franchisee's and have my the money I'm on now and not have to work.
Its going to be hard work for a few years but when its done I can reap the benefits of my labour, I did look into employing but its not for me.
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There was a point in our early employing days when I was full time cleaning windows and full time admin. Most weeks were 70+ hours. I don't think I had a single Saturday off for about 5 years.
Nowadays I sit about getting fat arguing about climate change on CIU with people who don't know what CO2 is.
Nothing good ever comes easy, hard work now pays dividends later.
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I don't like holidays though, never have. Two weeks off is my idea of hell. Especially in August.
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Other than the holiday you are completly right soupy
Darran
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I must admit 2 weeks is too long.
I usually go for a week that's enough, this time im away for 12 days. Getting a bit bored now hence why I'm on here itching to get back on with my business. 2 days left
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There was a point in our early employing days when I was full time cleaning windows and full time admin. Most weeks were 70+ hours. I don't think I had a single Saturday off for about 5 years.
Nowadays I sit about getting fat arguing about climate change on CIU with people who don't know what CO2 is.
Nothing good ever comes easy, hard work now pays dividends later.
Is arguing on CIU guilt free? On my off days I can't settle. One of the vans blew up the other day so I'm sat answering the phone and feeling guilty about not working. I'm about a month to six weeks from that being my way of life and it's not currently sitting quite right with me. ??? ??? ??? ???
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There was a point in our early employing days when I was full time cleaning windows and full time admin. Most weeks were 70+ hours. I don't think I had a single Saturday off for about 5 years.
Nowadays I sit about getting fat arguing about climate change on CIU with people who don't know what CO2 is.
Nothing good ever comes easy, hard work now pays dividends later.
Is arguing on CIU guilt free? On my off days I can't settle. One of the vans blew up the other day so I'm sat answering the phone and feeling guilty about not working. I'm about a month to six weeks from that being my way of life and it's not currently sitting quite right with me. ??? ??? ??? ???
For health reasons window cleaning is no longer an option for me.
Last window I cleaned was coming up 10 years ago. The feeling of guilt has long since passed.
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There was a point in our early employing days when I was full time cleaning windows and full time admin. Most weeks were 70+ hours. I don't think I had a single Saturday off for about 5 years.
Nowadays I sit about getting fat arguing about climate change on CIU with people who don't know what CO2 is.
Nothing good ever comes easy, hard work now pays dividends later.
Is arguing on CIU guilt free? On my off days I can't settle. One of the vans blew up the other day so I'm sat answering the phone and feeling guilty about not working. I'm about a month to six weeks from that being my way of life and it's not currently sitting quite right with me. ??? ??? ??? ???
For health reasons window cleaning is no longer an option for me.
Last window I cleaned was coming up 10 years ago. The feeling of guilt has long since passed.
Is it window cleaning that made you ill?
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There was a point in our early employing days when I was full time cleaning windows and full time admin. Most weeks were 70+ hours. I don't think I had a single Saturday off for about 5 years.
Nowadays I sit about getting fat arguing about climate change on CIU with people who don't know what CO2 is.
Nothing good ever comes easy, hard work now pays dividends later.
Is arguing on CIU guilt free? On my off days I can't settle. One of the vans blew up the other day so I'm sat answering the phone and feeling guilty about not working. I'm about a month to six weeks from that being my way of life and it's not currently sitting quite right with me. ??? ??? ??? ???
For health reasons window cleaning is no longer an option for me.
Last window I cleaned was coming up 10 years ago. The feeling of guilt has long since passed.
Is it window cleaning that made you ill?
No.
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There was a point in our early employing days when I was full time cleaning windows and full time admin. Most weeks were 70+ hours. I don't think I had a single Saturday off for about 5 years.
Nowadays I sit about getting fat arguing about climate change on CIU with people who don't know what CO2 is.
Nothing good ever comes easy, hard work now pays dividends later.
Is arguing on CIU guilt free? On my off days I can't settle. One of the vans blew up the other day so I'm sat answering the phone and feeling guilty about not working. I'm about a month to six weeks from that being my way of life and it's not currently sitting quite right with me. ??? ??? ??? ???
For health reasons window cleaning is no longer an option for me.
Last window I cleaned was coming up 10 years ago. The feeling of guilt has long since passed.
Is it window cleaning that made you ill?
No.
Arguing on here?
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Arguing on here?
Tosh, rosskesava, Dry Clean, Martin606, Perfect Windows et al can be blamed for most things. Not arthritis though.
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Didn't get home till 8pm last night and was completely goosed, was so tired when I got into bed I couldn't sleep.
Anyone else get fed with the workload?
I would love to do less but need to be progressing and cant afford to take a step backwards, crap situation.
What I wouldn't do for a month off, got two weeks off in August but it seems so far away!
It's like that sometimes mate, ya just have to keep going. I have days like that were 8pm becomes the new 5pm finish time.
August is only there u will soon be thinking the slog was worth it when u laying in the hot 🌞 Sipping away on the local 🍻
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Didn't get home till 8pm last night and was completely goosed, was so tired when I got into bed I couldn't sleep.
Anyone else get fed with the workload?
I would love to do less but need to be progressing and cant afford to take a step backwards, crap situation.
What I wouldn't do for a month off, got two weeks off in August but it seems so far away!
It's like that sometimes mate, ya just have to keep going. I have days like that were 8pm becomes the new 5pm finish time.
August is only there u will soon be thinking the slog was worth it when u laying in the hot 🌞 Sipping away on the local 🍻
I know mate, I think Dazmond had it right that builder's clean was a step too far last night and I was still tired and fed up this morning
The misses was at work today and we were done for 1:30 so its swings n roundabouts, and tomorrow is off.
Some days just get you down.
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enjoy your weekend paul.....im off now til tuesday!anglesey on sat for a couple of days...hope the good weather lasts..... 8)
first weekend away ive had this year.....
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I'm on holiday at the minute sat in the sun having my breakfast.. so sorry about that but....
I lost my employee day before i went away,
We parted ways amicably, he wanted to go self employed, I wasn't too bothered as was getting a bit fed up with extra workload it requires running a second van.
So that has left me considering my plans going forward. The workload I have left I can probably manage solo but I can't work 8 hours a day on the glass on my own forever, it's boring for a start but mainly just draining. No fun getting in and just wanting to sleep.
On the flip side employing whilst physically easier is mentally draining.
It does leave you questioning what's the point in trying to earn loads of money, more money more problems, more stress, more workload etc.
When I get back I'm going to refine what I have and really work on quality over quantity.
I'm going to look at subbing/renting/selling what I have left over and then look at something else.
I have an idea for an online business.
i used to think why is adam so tired working 6 hour days at 35?until you mentioned your heart problems....it wont get better with age mate so your right to start another less physical business/job....good luck adam.....
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I'm on holiday at the minute sat in the sun having my breakfast.. so sorry about that but....
I lost my employee day before i went away,
We parted ways amicably, he wanted to go self employed, I wasn't too bothered as was getting a bit fed up with extra workload it requires running a second van.
So that has left me considering my plans going forward. The workload I have left I can probably manage solo but I can't work 8 hours a day on the glass on my own forever, it's boring for a start but mainly just draining. No fun getting in and just wanting to sleep.
On the flip side employing whilst physically easier is mentally draining.
It does leave you questioning what's the point in trying to earn loads of money, more money more problems, more stress, more workload etc.
When I get back I'm going to refine what I have and really work on quality over quantity.
I'm going to look at subbing/renting/selling what I have left over and then look at something else.
I have an idea for an online business.
Oh its just twigged...Going On My Own...Gomo!
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Arguing on here?
Tosh, rosskesava, Dry Clean, Martin606, Perfect Windows et al can be blamed for most things. Not arthritis though.
Was it Thatcher then?
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Arguing on here?
Tosh, rosskesava, Dry Clean, Martin606, Perfect Windows et al can be blamed for most things. Not arthritis though.
Mind you ... stress can make arthritis feel even worse and banging your head against a brick wall even more so. Maybe cut down, especially arguing with 606 ?
;D
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Didn't get home till 8pm last night and was completely goosed, was so tired when I got into bed I couldn't sleep.
Anyone else get fed with the workload?
I would love to do less but need to be progressing and cant afford to take a step backwards, crap situation.
What I wouldn't do for a month off, got two weeks off in August but it seems so far away!
I know exactly where you are coming from. Last year, I was feeling the same way, and was all for selling up and moving on to something else. Then I thought,what? I have no other trade I can fall back on, other than going on to the coaches full time, which.I dont want to do, as it involves working most weekends, and no time with the family, plus the fact that most of the time ,younare sitting around waiting for people. So I decided to diversify a bit, and started doing jet washing ,and promoting cleaning of roofline,and conservatory roofs. Also I am totally sick of the winters ow, and couldn’t face doing JUST window cleaning, so this year I am doing a carpet cleaning course,in a bid to get set up and start doing it during the winter , even if I get two days a week from it, its better than being outside all winter.
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Hi Guys,
I'm just getting going on here again, as usual finding some really interesting things being discussed.
My advice would be to not take on some of the crappy jobs (builder cleans etc.) as these nearly always take longer than you think and they are hard work for sure, these sort of jobs put you under pressure when you don't need it. There is easier work out there if you look for it.
I'm also mad busy (turning people away now) and looking to expand if i can, just wondered what you guys think about employing someone, as i'm looking at another van on the road if i can make it financially viable.
Any comments from people who have gone through this process, good or bad would be appreciated.
If this area has been discussed before on here, can anyone point me in the direction of a thread (date) where it was discussed to save going over old ground.
Cheers
Steve
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Hi Guys,
I'm just getting going on here again, as usual finding some really interesting things being discussed.
My advice would be to not take on some of the crappy jobs (builder cleans etc.) as these nearly always take longer than you think and they are hard work for sure, these sort of jobs put you under pressure when you don't need it. There is easier work out there if you look for it.
I'm also mad busy (turning people away now) and looking to expand if i can, just wondered what you guys think about employing someone, as i'm looking at another van on the road if i can make it financially viable.
Any comments from people who have gone through this process, good or bad would be appreciated.
If this area has been discussed before on here, can anyone point me in the direction of a thread (date) where it was discussed to save going over old ground.
Cheers
Steve
start a new thread mate..its trial and error employing.a lot of headaches but it can work out ok for a few years if your willing to put the effort in.....
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I don't like holidays though, never have. Two weeks off is my idea of hell. Especially in August.
what a miserable git you are mate.....what are you gonna do with all your money?is your ambition to be the richest corpse in the graveyard? ;D
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Employing is a headache.
I don't really want to employ again but on the flip side I don't want to clean windows 5 days a week forever.
So I will probably employ again.
It's just about finding the right person, that's all there is to it really.....
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Employing is a headache.
I don't really want to employ again but on the flip side I don't want to clean windows 5 days a week forever.
So I will probably employ again.
It's just about finding the right person, that's all there is to it really.....
even if you find a good one they rarely last longer than a year or so before they either start up themselves or move onto something else......you might go through 20 guys before you find the right one thatll stick it for a few months......
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Wife wanted to come to work with me, so spent yesterday afternoon training and were out today.
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Not sure yet if I'm pleased with the idea or not
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i dont get home till 8/9 pm most eves.
i love it..
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Wife wanted to come to work with me, so spent yesterday afternoon training and were out today.
::)roll ::)roll
Not sure yet if I'm pleased with the idea or not
It’s probably the most cost effective way to work! If your wife doesn’t already work anywhere else , then she can earn £11500 (I think) tax free a year! More money in your house and pay less tax
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Wife wanted to come to work with me, so spent yesterday afternoon training and were out today.
::)roll ::)roll
Not sure yet if I'm pleased with the idea or not
tell her to do one then!no way would i have my missus working with me! ;D
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Wife wanted to come to work with me, so spent yesterday afternoon training and were out today.
::)roll ::)roll
Not sure yet if I'm pleased with the idea or not
Didn’t you say in the past that your wife schools the kids at home?
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Wife wanted to come to work with me, so spent yesterday afternoon training and were out today.
::)roll ::)roll
Not sure yet if I'm pleased with the idea or not
Didn’t you say in the past that your wife schools the kids at home?
Home schooling isn't the same as formal schooling 8:30 - 3pm Mon -, Fri!
My littlest goes to a child minder n others go to their nannas for baking once a week etc. So she does get some free time haha 😂 I wouldn't like to be stuck with kids 24/7 either. Going work is an holiday compared to looking after a young family day in day out!
She's done OK today, mostly watching me n methods and having the odd go. Then getting some inspiration from my customers gardens so in the end I've somehow got more work to do in our garden now 😂😂
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Wife wanted to come to work with me, so spent yesterday afternoon training and were out today.
::)roll ::)roll
Not sure yet if I'm pleased with the idea or not
Didn’t you say in the past that your wife schools the kids at home?
Home schooling isn't the same as formal schooling 8:30 - 3pm Mon -, Fri!
My littlest goes to a child minder n others go to their nannas for baking once a week etc. So she does get some free time haha 😂 I wouldn't like to be stuck with kids 24/7 either. Going work is an holiday compared to looking after a young family day in day out!
She's done OK today, mostly watching me n methods and having the odd go. Then getting some inspiration from my customers gardens so in the end I've somehow got more work to do in our garden now 😂😂
My missus been working with me 4 years now and it works perfectly, so long as she knows who the boss is at work.
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She's a proper grafter, just gets on with the work and never ever moans about anything . I do the windows she cant reach and she collects from the customers I dont like! She never feels ill, even when she is.
In todays day and age having a female worker has advantages, some old dears feel safer and some old men love to chat with her. I sometimes think I am invisible, which is great! The paranoid husband types dont mind the wife "having" a window cleaner if he knows his wife's there too.
She's the best worker I can think of and if I could have 10-20 I could give Lee Pryor a run for his money!
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Just get her to watch some window cleaning videos on YouTube.
Informative, educational ones, so none of yours.
She’ll be sorted before you can say ‘Gardiners 14” with 4 fans and hot water please Sir!”
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I don't like holidays though, never have. Two weeks off is my idea of hell. Especially in August.
what a miserable git you are mate.....what are you gonna do with all your money?is your ambition to be the richest corpse in the graveyard? ;D
I'm not miserable though, I enjoy working. If I'm forced to sit about a pool or, God forbid, a beach, then I'm miserable.
This year me and Mrs S drove round the north coast of Scotland. I enjoyed that but I was still glad to get back to work. Nowt wrong with that.
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Wife wanted to come to work with me, so spent yesterday afternoon training and were out today.
::)roll ::)roll
Not sure yet if I'm pleased with the idea or not
Didn’t you say in the past that your wife schools the kids at home?
Home schooling isn't the same as formal schooling 8:30 - 3pm Mon -, Fri!
My littlest goes to a child minder n others go to their nannas for baking once a week etc. So she does get some free time haha 😂 I wouldn't like to be stuck with kids 24/7 either. Going work is an holiday compared to looking after a young family day in day out!
She's done OK today, mostly watching me n methods and having the odd go. Then getting some inspiration from my customers gardens so in the end I've somehow got more work to do in our garden now 😂😂
My missus been working with me 4 years now and it works perfectly, so long as she knows who the boss is at work.
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She's a proper grafter, just gets on with the work and never ever moans about anything . I do the windows she cant reach and she collects from the customers I dont like! She never feels ill, even when she is.
In todays day and age having a female worker has advantages, some old dears feel safer and some old men love to chat with her. I sometimes think I am invisible, which is great! The paranoid husband types dont mind the wife "having" a window cleaner if he knows his wife's there too.
She's the best worker I can think of and if I could have 10-20 I could give Lee Pryor a run for his money!
10 - 20 wives?
Feck that.
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Wife wanted to come to work with me, so spent yesterday afternoon training and were out today.
::)roll ::)roll
Not sure yet if I'm pleased with the idea or not
Didn’t you say in the past that your wife schools the kids at home?
Home schooling isn't the same as formal schooling 8:30 - 3pm Mon -, Fri!
My littlest goes to a child minder n others go to their nannas for baking once a week etc. So she does get some free time haha 😂 I wouldn't like to be stuck with kids 24/7 either. Going work is an holiday compared to looking after a young family day in day out!
She's done OK today, mostly watching me n methods and having the odd go. Then getting some inspiration from my customers gardens so in the end I've somehow got more work to do in our garden now 😂😂
My missus been working with me 4 years now and it works perfectly, so long as she knows who the boss is at work.
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She's a proper grafter, just gets on with the work and never ever moans about anything . I do the windows she cant reach and she collects from the customers I dont like! She never feels ill, even when she is.
In todays day and age having a female worker has advantages, some old dears feel safer and some old men love to chat with her. I sometimes think I am invisible, which is great! The paranoid husband types dont mind the wife "having" a window cleaner if he knows his wife's there too.
She's the best worker I can think of and if I could have 10-20 I could give Lee Pryor a run for his money!
10 - 20 wives?
Feck that.
Which one though?
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Wife wanted to come to work with me, so spent yesterday afternoon training and were out today.
::)roll ::)roll
Not sure yet if I'm pleased with the idea or not
Didn’t you say in the past that your wife schools the kids at home?
Home schooling isn't the same as formal schooling 8:30 - 3pm Mon -, Fri!
My littlest goes to a child minder n others go to their nannas for baking once a week etc. So she does get some free time haha 😂 I wouldn't like to be stuck with kids 24/7 either. Going work is an holiday compared to looking after a young family day in day out!
She's done OK today, mostly watching me n methods and having the odd go. Then getting some inspiration from my customers gardens so in the end I've somehow got more work to do in our garden now 😂😂
My missus been working with me 4 years now and it works perfectly, so long as she knows who the boss is at work.
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She's a proper grafter, just gets on with the work and never ever moans about anything . I do the windows she cant reach and she collects from the customers I dont like! She never feels ill, even when she is.
In todays day and age having a female worker has advantages, some old dears feel safer and some old men love to chat with her. I sometimes think I am invisible, which is great! The paranoid husband types dont mind the wife "having" a window cleaner if he knows his wife's there too.
She's the best worker I can think of and if I could have 10-20 I could give Lee Pryor a run for his money!
10 - 20 wives?
Feck that.
Ive got it good with my wife mate, I cant find anything to moan about-at all.
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Ive got it good with my wife mate, I cant find anything to moan about-at all.
Yeah but 20 of them?
Think of all the kirbies.