Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: tom2009 on April 23, 2010, 02:54:03 pm
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packed up after a job today and had to get it all back out as water had got into a vent and run dirty water over a pane :-\. The pressure through the pencil jets sprays up and out when I rinse so I spent more time rinsing and more rinsing. Extra tricky when on 2nd storey. My question is are any of you based in the Northants, Beds (sort of) area that is prepared to let me watch them wfping, established pro's if poss. to give me an idea of how long I should be taking. I'm off out now to finish off. Hopefully hear from someone later.
Thanks
Tom
ps I know about the Ionics roadshows, I'd just like to see wfping in the field type thing
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markets wide open for wfp'ers round here then?
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markets wide open for wfp'ers round here then?
I'd easy show you mate, would be quite a drive though.....
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Tom, rinsing is something that's done quickly, pretty much as fast as you can zig zag your brush down the glass.
Here, look at this link; it shows Peter's clampless pole but Peter's got the right idea with regards speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kidu9wUtBPM
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markets wide open for wfp'ers round here then?
I'd easy show you mate, would be quite a drive though.....
thanks for the offer, if I was nearer I'd be over :)
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Tom, rinsing is something that's done quickly, pretty much as fast as you can zig zag your brush down the glass.
Here, look at this link; it shows Peter's clampless pole but Peter's got the right idea with regards speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kidu9wUtBPM
Thanks Tosh. I need to speed up :-[
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Tom, rinsing is something that's done quickly, pretty much as fast as you can zig zag your brush down the glass.
Here, look at this link; it shows Peter's clampless pole but Peter's got the right idea with regards speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kidu9wUtBPM
if that is giving it a good enough rinse then I'm the same as OP as I scrub like crazy and rinse much more than that, but I've only been using wfp for a couple of days and I need to get confident of what is enough to get good results.
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Tom, rinsing is something that's done quickly, pretty much as fast as you can zig zag your brush down the glass.
Here, look at this link; it shows Peter's clampless pole but Peter's got the right idea with regards speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kidu9wUtBPM
Sorry Tosh, but watching Peter Fogwill is not the best way to learn how to clean a window!!!
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Tom, rinsing is something that's done quickly, pretty much as fast as you can zig zag your brush down the glass.
Here, look at this link; it shows Peter's clampless pole but Peter's got the right idea with regards speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kidu9wUtBPM
Sorry Tosh, but watching Peter Fogwill is not the best way to learn how to clean a window!!!
Lying the brush on the ground is not what I would want to post up as an example of how to do things!
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I rinse way more than that. I can not even see him rinse, he seems to miss areas of the windows
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I've even driven back later on certain jobs to check they turned out ok. crazy really
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I live in great barford beds, your welcome to come and clean my windows and let me see where your going wrong if you are.
jokes a side I dont mind helping you if I can.
Ian
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that would be great, thanks Ian.
any chance we could talk about where/when on email tomgreen@uwclub.net
cheers
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that would be great, thanks Ian.
any chance we could talk about where/when on email tomgreen@uwclub.net
cheers
my number is on www.windowwashers.co.uk homepage call me tomorrow and will sort something out ;)
Ian
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Anybody know of a good wfp video on youtube, showing what you consider normal rinsing techniques?
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that would be great, thanks Ian.
any chance we could talk about where/when on email tomgreen@uwclub.net
cheers
my number is on www.windowwashers.co.uk homepage call me tomorrow and will sort something out ;)
Ian
will do. Cheers. Tom
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Anybody know of a good wfp video on youtube, showing what you consider normal rinsing techniques?
here goes...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPido_qirwc
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Anybody know of a good wfp video on youtube, showing what you consider normal rinsing techniques?
here goes...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPido_qirwc
Not bad, but being lazy, I'd've swapped to a shorter pole for the ground floor (my brush head just slides off the longer pole and straight onto a short one) to make the work even easier.
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Anybody know of a good wfp video on youtube, showing what you consider normal rinsing techniques?
here goes...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPido_qirwc
i only work like that when they are out
you got style grounhog 8) ;D
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no wonder i get through so much water, I rinse way more than that, Might try and improve my technique. Had no complaints yet though!
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ha!ha!i think that clip is funny!!esp when he runs with his pole to the next ground floor window!!but to be honest im sure your custys wouldnt be happy if they seen you cleaning like this!! ;D ;D
looks like he hasnt got a clue! ::) :P ;) ;D
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ha!ha!i think that clip is funny!!esp when he runs with his pole to the next ground floor window!!but to be honest im sure your custys wouldnt be happy if they seen you cleaning like this!! ;D ;D
looks like he hasnt got a clue! ::) :P ;) ;D
I run to each window all day, probably doubles my turnover on an average day. My custies judge my work by the results that they get, which are perfectly clean windows everytime. The house in the clip is cleaned every month, so it dosn't take much to get them clean. Lets compare our average daily takings to see who's 'got a clue'!! ;D The house in the clip is charged at £15 and takes less than 5mins, and on that estate I have over 100 houses exactly the same and I can in general clean about 6 houses without moving the van!! Now who hasn't got a clue d#ckhead!!! ;)
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Anybody know of a good wfp video on youtube, showing what you consider normal rinsing techniques?
here goes...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPido_qirwc
Not bad, but being lazy, I'd've swapped to a shorter pole for the ground floor (my brush head just slides off the longer pole and straight onto a short one) to make the work even easier.
Takes too long Tosh... Time is money after all!!!!!!! ;)
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you got style grounhog 8) ;D
I agree!! 8)
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Now who hasn't got a clue d#ckhead!!! ;)
You're being awfully offensive tonight Mr Groundhog.
This isnt the first post where youve tried to insult someone.
Cant handle your beer?
I am completely sober Mr Butcher, I have taken the trouble to post a vid of myself at work to try and help some of the other guys. So I don't like being insulted, especially by someone called Daz!!!! ;D
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You posted that at least a year ago, its nothing new.
Well sorry to try and help!! Why don't you try and bring something constructive to the forum? ???
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Thats rich coming from you and your postings tonight.
Your not trying to help, you're trying to wind people up.
Good night.
Good riddance Aqua Clear!!! ;D
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These videos are funny. ;D
Takes a bit more than that to do a good job wfp!
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bloody hell groundhog :o i wish i could work that bloody quick :o my back wouldnt last 5mins :(
dont u ever get a job near any of mine ;D u would make me look like a sloth :(
oh 2 b that fit ::)
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These videos are funny. ;D
Takes a bit more than that to do a good job wfp!
Squeaky I've been using wfp for 5 years now, and the round just grows and grows. Believe me, I know what I'm doing, anyway that clip is a couple of years old now, I'm much quicker now!! Lets see a clip of you in action, so we can all see how its done Squealer!! ::)
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i hope none of u lot ever film me & put it on here :o apart from fallin off ur seats with laughter ;D
u wouldnt ave enough time 2 watch it all :(
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bloody hell groundhog :o i wish i could work that bloody quick :o my back wouldnt last 5mins :(
dont u ever get a job near any of mine ;D u would make me look like a sloth :(
oh 2 b that fit ::)
I love it when another window cleaner pulls up to do a house near one of mine, a trad guy turned up on the estate from the vid one day. I really went for it, and had started my seventh house before he had finished his one!! ;D I was probably charging more too!! 8)
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m8 if u were at a house when i pulled up, i'd bloody well drive off n come back later when u had long gone ;) cant ave u young fit buggers showin me up like that ;D :P im still knackered from watchin that clip :P think i need another coffee ;D
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m8 if u were at a house when i pulled up, i'd bloody well drive off n come back later when u had long gone ;) cant ave u young fit buggers showin me up like that ;D :P im still knackered from watchin that clip :P think i need another coffee ;D
And I'm 4 years older than you!! We'll have to get you in training matey, dust that old tracksuit off and get your trainers out.. time for a groundhog style wfp workout!!! I can feel another video coming on!!!!!! ;D
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I`m guilty of obsessive,compulsive mincing when working :-*.
But I target the pink pound ;).
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4years older than me :o ru tryin 2rub it in :-[ but ive had 4opps on my lower back in the past 4years :P
so there :P :P thats my exscuice & im stickin 2it ::)
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I`m guilty of obsessive,compulsive mincing when working :-*.
But I target the pink pound ;).
EH? ??? outs that when its at home?
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4years older than me :o ru tryin 2rub it in :-[ but ive had 4opps on my lower back in the past 4years :P
so there :P :P thats my exscuice & im stickin 2it ::)
Whats up with your lower back mate? Sounds nasty!! :(
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popped 2discs in the middle of my back & totally burst 2in my lower back :-X so i can only work about 4hours & trust me when i say thats a good day :-\. some days i cant work.
but thats how it is now n i ave 2just get on with it. prob dont even earn half wot the other guys do on
here, but i pay me bills. as long as it keeps the wolf from me door n food on the table ;D
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cum work for me hitster lad ;D ;D
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i would never keep up with u either lamster :P get knackered thinkin about it ;D
bloody good joke this morn hey m8 ;) ;D
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PR, Don`t worry about what others earn. You still earn more than me ::).
Have you thought about smaller barrels for your backpack? 25 litres is heavy for someone without a bad back. What about 10 litre ones and just topping up more often?
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it dont make much of a difference 2b honest G. ive tried everything, it dont matter how i do things
i can only last so long till my back goes. nice thought tho G ;D really kind of ya m8 ;)
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popped 2discs in the middle of my back & totally burst 2in my lower back :-X so i can only work about 4hours & trust me when i say thats a good day :-\. some days i cant work.
Sounds painful!!! :( I read a book once, called 'Your Body's Many Cries For Water' It is about how important hydration is to the body, and how drinking enough water can cure many diseases in human beings. Before I read this book, I suffered from asthma and had to take steroid and reliever inhalers, and also tablets to control my symptoms. Within 3 days of following the advice in this book I was free of asthma and stopped taking the medication. I am telling you this bacause the book also talks about lower back pain, and the author has also written a book specifically on this subject called 'How to deal with back pain and rheumatoid joint pain' He talks a lot of sense, and as I said it worked for me, why not get yourself a copy. You've got nothing to lose and it may help!! :)
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hey id look after u lad infact id carry on
on ma trad stuff i blitz houses 4 fun need 40+ a day ;D ;D
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popped 2discs in the middle of my back & totally burst 2in my lower back :-X so i can only work about 4hours & trust me when i say thats a good day :-\. some days i cant work.
Sounds painful!!! :( I read a book once, called 'Your Body's Many Cries For Water' It is about how important hydration is to the body, and how drinking enough water can cure many diseases in human beings. Before I read this book, I suffered from asthma and had to take steroid and reliever inhalers, and also tablets to control my symptoms. Within 3 days of following the advice in this book I was free of asthma and stopped taking the medication. I am telling you this bacause the book also talks about lower back pain, and the author has also written a book specifically on this subject called 'How to deal with back pain and rheumatoid joint pain' He talks a lot of sense, and as I said it worked for me, why not get yourself a copy. You've got nothing to lose and it may help!! :)
thanks 4 that groundhog ;) i will order myself a copy of that 2moro :) worth a try & lesspainfull than hospital :( ;D
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thanks 4 that groundhog ;) i will order myself a copy of that 2moro :) worth a try & lesspainfull than hospital :( ;D
They have it on Amazon, hope it helps... let me know how it goes :)
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yer will do m8, thanks again ;D how do u know ur 4years older than me????? ???
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These videos are funny. ;D
Takes a bit more than that to do a good job wfp!
Squeaky I've been using wfp for 5 years now, and the round just grows and grows. Believe me, I know what I'm doing, anyway that clip is a couple of years old now, I'm much quicker now!! Lets see a clip of you in action, so we can all see how its done Squealer!! ::)
Oh Bushpig you haven't changed! If there was a clip of me you'd see it was not much slower, but I would rinse them properly.
Yes on some you trust it can be done that quick, and some of mine are, but not on all windows.
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yer will do m8, thanks again ;D how do u know ur 4years older than me????? ???
It says on your profile that your 39 :D
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yer will do m8, thanks again ;D how do u know ur 4years older than me????? ???
It says on your profile that your 39 :D
oh yer, 4got about that ::) lol
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no wonder i get through so much water, I rinse way more than that, Might try and improve my technique. Had no complaints yet though!
same here Chopsie, finished one yesterday and the windows sparkled but all the custie seemed to notice was the water on her patio ::)
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I have to admit that video from Groundhog does look very fast...I just wish I had the danglies to to them that fast..I think I would take much, much longer doing them and that house would take me about 20 minutes at least poss more.
I just do not have the confiendence to do them that fast...this is not an attack on the video.
groundhog has been doin it for.. i think he said 4/5 years ;D even if i'd been doin it 10years
i still wouldnt b that quick :P
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I have to admit that video from Groundhog does look very fast...I just wish I had the danglies to to them that fast..I think I would take much, much longer doing them and that house would take me about 20 minutes at least poss more.
I just do not have the confiendence to do them that fast...this is not an attack on the video.
groundhog has been doin it for.. i think he said 4/5 years ;D even if i'd been doin it 10years
i still wouldnt b that quick :P
how long would that have taken you PR? serious question, say after you've cleaned em regularly a few times and they were on an 8 week cycle?
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with out seeing the back of the house i guess about 12/15mins :-\
i could prob do 4of them in an hour :P but like ive said i can only last between 3/4hours :(
then im so done in, my back just cant do it :( when ive finished my back is so stiff i have trouble
just walking :( & in quite a bit of pain :o :'(
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i hear wot ur sayin Michael, but if ur pumping the water through at a fast rate. cant that speed up
ur workin speed? just a thought ::) i dont know ::) ive never tried, wish i could :)
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The whole point of the rinse is to pull any small bits of dirt down the pane of glass with the weight of the water. Doesn't matter what way you do it so long as you start from the top.
It's the scrubbing that is equally as important as that's when the dirt is loosened by the scrubbing motions of the brush. If you don't get the scrubbing right, the rinsing won't be right.
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but if ur pumping the water through at a fast rate. cant that speed up
ur workin speed?
It sure can, I use a slightly different technique these days which is even quicker. Where I used to rinse down the window in a zigzag with the brush head, I now just slide the brush left to right a couple of times at the top of the pane and let the water flow down the window, works just as well and as I said is quicker!! :)
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Anyone running around like that in any business will portray a bad image in most peoples eyes.
I'm in business to make money, and the quicker I clean a window the more money I make, I'm fit and strong and able to work hard and run from window to window all day long!
Back in the 80's there was a labourer who called himself Superhod, he had a specially made hod which I beleive was capable of holding 3 or 4 times what a normal hod would carry, he also had a wheelbarrow made in the same way. He would run all day, and was able to keep a great number of brickies or plasterers going all on his own. He is now a multi millionaire, and I don't think he could care a less if some tw#t suggested he looked unproffessional for using his strength and fitness to earn him a lot of money to provide for himself and family!!! ;D
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i think groundhogs just trying to wind us all up for the fun of it!there just no way you can go round cleaning custys windows like u do in the vid!it really is laughable. ;D ;D
maybe if the custy wasnt in and you was bursting for a tom tit and wanted to get off to the nearest toilet!but if the custys in when you clean and you knocked on after 5 mins you would soon get the sack!
its another case of a arrogant braggart(just like the guys who say they can clean 15 houses an hour blah,blah....yawn!) or a wind up merchant! :P :P ;D ;D ;D
regards
dazmond
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i think groundhogs just trying to wind us all up for the fun of it!there just no way you can go round cleaning custys windows like u do in the vid!it really is laughable. ;D ;D
maybe if the custy wasnt in and you was bursting for a tom tit and wanted to get off to the nearest toilet!but if the custys in when you clean and you knocked on after 5 mins you would soon get the sack!
its another case of a arrogant braggart(just like the guys who say they can clean 15 houses an hour blah,blah....yawn!) or a wind up merchant! :P :P ;D ;D ;D
regards
dazmond
Well I've had enough, I had plenty of ideas for other vids etc to put on the forum. But your obviously not interested, so no more uploads from me, and I will delete the one I added.
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I didn't manage to see Groundhogs vid but going back to peter fogwills vid.I dont believe this is a good technique to use when cleaning,even on a regular clean small dirt and dust particles will still be visible on the pane and a thorough rinse is required to make sure that all small particles are washed downwards and off the glass.With the random action used to scrub the glass in the first place,i doubt the whole area was covered sufficiently to agitate the dirt,and the lack of rinsing in a slower fashion then i can see problems arising on occassions.The other thing that appeals to me is giving a certain value for money to a customer.If i am right or wrong i dont know,but i charge a fair price to do a thorough job and that means convincing myself that the glass has been cleaned and rinsed properly and not just splashed so i can run to the next job.
By the way the comparison between rushing a window cleaning job and a superfit hod carrier is nonsense...the hod carrier didn't have to justify to the customer that the bricks were clean when the job was finished.
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i think groundhogs just trying to wind us all up for the fun of it!there just no way you can go round cleaning custys windows like u do in the vid!it really is laughable. ;D ;D
maybe if the custy wasnt in and you was bursting for a tom tit and wanted to get off to the nearest toilet!but if the custys in when you clean and you knocked on after 5 mins you would soon get the sack!
its another case of a arrogant braggart(just like the guys who say they can clean 15 houses an hour blah,blah....yawn!) or a wind up merchant! :P :P ;D ;D ;D
regards
dazmond
Well I've had enough, I had plenty of ideas for other vids etc to put on the forum. But your obviously not interested, so no more uploads from me, and I will delete the one I added.
dont not put up vids because of a small number of people groundhog, they have something to learn from you, they just can't see it yet, I and I would guess loads of other readers (note reader) would want to see your vids.
your welcome to email me links to them if you dont want to post them on here.
Ian
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dont let me stop you groundhog!what cant you handle a bit of criticism?i think your also too close to the window when your poling.youll get a bad neck like that!
running around with the pole your asking to trip up on hose or something!much better to work at a steady brisk measured pace than running round like an idiot!
again just my opinion! ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
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I cleaned my own house yesturday, Groundhog style, and it came up lovely. No complaints from Wor Lass at all.
It still surprises me at how fast - common sense applying - you can work with WFP.
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Well I've had enough, I had plenty of ideas for other vids etc to put on the forum. But your obviously not interested, so no more uploads from me, and I will delete the one I added.
dont stop puttin them up m8, im interested ;D & im not the only 1 either.
bring em on groundhog u never know i mite put 1 up of me when i get quicker..... ::) NOT ;D
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on regular maintenance cleans you should only
need minimal rinsing unless there has been something
a bit more extreme left on windows.
in fact on some of the newer builds i clean i scrub
the window then move the brush from left to right
at top of glass then move to next window.
never a problem ;)
how yah doing hoggy :) :)
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yeh keep posting vids. i for one am interested
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how yah doing hoggy :) :)
I'm good thanks mate!! :)
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so groundhog r u gonna keep the clips coming in 4 us?.................PLEASE ;D
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dont stop puttin them up m8, im interested ;D & im not the only 1 either.
bring em on groundhog u never know i mite put 1 up of me when i get quicker..... ::) NOT ;D
Thanks mate, don't forget about that book I recommended for you.. I wanna know if it works so I can recommend it to others with bad backs!! :)
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so groundhog r u gonna keep the clips coming in 4 us?.................PLEASE ;D
I'll see what I can do mate! ;)
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I cleaned my own house yesturday, Groundhog style, and it came up lovely. No complaints from Wor Lass at all.
It still surprises me at how fast - common sense applying - you can work with WFP.
Well thats a vote of confidence if ever I've seen one, thanks Tosh.. and Wor Lass!! ;D
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good man ;) i think that f/o 1u done was great ;D told my m8 about it, he thought i was pulling his leg :-\ think it has 2b seen 2b belived :) im still done in just from watchin it ;D
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dont not put up vids because of a small number of people groundhog, they have something to learn from you, they just can't see it yet, I and I would guess loads of other readers (note reader) would want to see your vids.
your welcome to email me links to them if you dont want to post them on here.
Ian
Thanks Ian, I just don't like being ridiculed when I'm just trying to bring something usefull to the forum. Anyway it's about time you put another vid on here isn't it? :)
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dont stop puttin them up m8, im interested ;D & im not the only 1 either.
bring em on groundhog u never know i mite put 1 up of me when i get quicker..... ::) NOT ;D
Thanks mate, don't forget about that book I recommended for you.. I wanna know if it works so I can recommend it to others with bad backs!! :)
i wont m8, ive found it on amazon :) but gonna try my local book shop 1st ;)
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good man ;) i think that f/o 1u done was great ;D told my m8 about it, he thought i was pulling his leg :-\ think it has 2b seen 2b belived :) im still done in just from watchin it ;D
I put about 5 vids on here a year or two ago, not sure if you was on here then. But it all started with my harris pole posts, and I put some vids on to show that a converted £15 harris pole could be used to clean windows just as well as some flash £500 plus pole!! It was also faster as it could be used clampless and could be thrown up to extend it and just dropped down in a fraction of a second to clean the ground floor windows! and I put up the vids to demonstrate this, and also show how to convert and add an extension to the pole. Anyway I ended up deleting them also as I was getting so many insults etc, I think the majority liked/appreciated them, but you always get a few who love to put you down :(
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i wont m8, ive found it on amazon :) but gonna try my local book shop 1st ;)
Nice one, let me know how it goes!!
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I put about 5 vids on here a year or two ago, not sure if you was on here then. But it all started with my harris pole posts, and I put some vids on to show that a converted £15 harris pole could be used to clean windows just as well as some flash £500 plus pole!! It was also faster as it could be used clampless and could be thrown up to extend it and just dropped down in a fraction of a second to clean the ground floor windows! and I put up the vids to demonstrate this, and also show how to convert and add an extension to the pole. Anyway I ended up deleting them also as I was getting so many insults etc, I think the majority liked/appreciated them, but you always get a few who love to put you down :(
could u email them 2me please? they sound good ;) im well interested ;)
i know wot u mean about the few :( not worth the stuff on the sole of my shoe m8 ;D
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I'll have to see if I can find them, they should be on my computer somewhere. If I find them I'll put them back on youtube for a while. Anyway I'm off to bed, early start in the morning! Goodnight
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k m8 thanks ;D
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I think Squeeky clean was right on at least one thing. You cannot clean all properties like that. You can't possibly disagree with that.
In a way I'm glad you took it down, new starters will think they can be that quick on every house on every clean on any frequency. I know which vid it was, you posted it here quite some time ago.
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thanks for all the feed back. It's been interesting reading :)
cheers
Tom
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In a way I'm glad you took it down, new starters will think they can be that quick on every house on every clean on any frequency. I know which vid it was, you posted it here quite some time ago.
I posted lots of vids, so your just guessing which one it was if you didn't see it!! Anyway sorry to dissapoint you, but once I get my camcorder sorted out I'm going to post some clips of my new even quicker techniques!! :o If you don't like them then don't watch them, but if you want to see how I maximize my income everyday.. then watch this space!!! ;)
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In a way I'm glad you took it down, new starters will think they can be that quick on every house on every clean on any frequency. I know which vid it was, you posted it here quite some time ago.
I posted lots of vids, so your just guessing which one it was if you didn't see it!! Anyway sorry to dissapoint you, but once I get my camcorder sorted out I'm going to post some clips of my new even quicker techniques!! :o If you don't like them then don't watch them, but if you want to see how I maximize my income everyday.. then watch this space!!! ;)
I thought it was just the one vid of the back of the house (with the frosted window that you did quicker).
Anyway, please do post them. Never said I didn't like that. Not everyone here is out to take the mick, even though it's sometimes hard to see genuine posts on this forum.
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Just wanted to say thanks to Ian (window washers) for loads of information, tips and pointers which will, once I've put them into practice, give my business a massive boost ;D Thanks Ian I appreciate your help. Worth every penny of the £500 charge................
just kidding about the £500 ;D
Cheers mate!
Tom
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lol at the £500 charge Tom,
Your welcome ;D
Glad I could help you. ;)
Ian
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Anybody know of a good wfp video on youtube, showing what you consider normal rinsing techniques?
here goes...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPido_qirwc
YouTube reports that this video has now been removed ???