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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Dave Willis on April 21, 2010, 07:55:12 am

Title: rubbish products
Post by: Dave Willis on April 21, 2010, 07:55:12 am
Have you bought supplies that are simply a waste of money?
Here's mine:

Oilflow solvent remover. So weak that it takes all day to break down the solvent or sticky residue on glass and plastic.

Astonish oven cleaner - doesn't work on ovens but is ok for upvc

Fleetclean tfr - simply useless at the recommended dilution rates for conservatory roofs. Works ok if really strong but stains any glass if it drys

Windsol crystal clear mineral deposit/calcium remover - ruined two windows with it and it works no better than cheap Viakal

Gardiners first series plastic clamps - used to snap and ping off for a pastime (new ones are perfect)

Gardiners mark1 superlight pole. Fantasticlly light and stiff but would snap if you sneezed on it it was a Maver fishing pole unlike the current  version.

Ungers fluid - not the normal one but a free bottle that was given away by one supplier for testing. Awe-full stuff that left a residue that couldn't be seen untill it was too late.

Leisure batteries that don't last nine months.

Vikan sill brush - scrubs really well but is twice as heavy as it needs to be.

Finally any glassfibre telescopic pole including my telescopic jet washing lance - dreadful clamps, far too heavy and flexible.

Have you bought anything you aren't happy with?
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: TC1 on April 21, 2010, 07:58:37 am
Remote to turn my water flow on and off! It "toasted" my controller :'(
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Pj on April 21, 2010, 08:06:08 am
TFR  stands for Totally Flipping Rubbish
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: jonboywalton75 on April 21, 2010, 08:07:29 am
Trolley with 60 ltr pressure vessel and twin di.
rubbish for £545
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Steve CM on April 21, 2010, 08:15:08 am
Windsol crystal clear mineral deposit/calcium remover - ruined two windows with it and it works no better than cheap Viakal

you are having a larf?!

excellent stuff. used it on a massive building with big mineral deposit build up over 30 years. the glass looked like new.

Also used it on countless windows since and everytime A1 results.

Do you think that maybe it could of been user error? ;)
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Smudger on April 21, 2010, 08:19:19 am
think you are a bit hard on fleetclean - i find it excellent, altho i dont use it at 100 to1 more like 30 to 1 but i find most products are better if you mix them at a stronger rate 


Darran
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Window Washers on April 21, 2010, 08:22:34 am
Have you bought supplies that are simply a waste of money?
Here's mine:

Oilflow solvent remover. So weak that it takes all day to break down the solvent or sticky residue on glass and plastic.

Astonish oven cleaner - doesn't work on ovens but is ok for upvc

Fleetclean tfr - simply useless at the recommended dilution rates for conservatory roofs. Works ok if really strong but stains any glass if it drys

Windsol crystal clear mineral deposit/calcium remover - ruined two windows with it and it works no better than cheap Viakal

Gardiners first series plastic clamps - used to snap and ping off for a pastime (new ones are perfect)

Gardiners mark1 superlight pole. Fantasticlly light and stiff but would snap if you sneezed on it it was a Maver fishing pole unlike the current  version.

Ungers fluid - not the normal one but a free bottle that was given away by one supplier for testing. Awe-full stuff that left a residue that couldn't be seen untill it was too late.

Leisure batteries that don't last nine months.

Vikan sill brush - scrubs really well but is twice as heavy as it needs to be.

Finally any glassfibre telescopic pole including my telescopic jet washing lance - dreadful clamps, far too heavy and flexible.

Have you bought anything you aren't happy with?

Would be interesting to know what you used instead of these items Dave...
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: supernova77 on April 21, 2010, 09:11:31 am
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Trolley with 60 ltr pressure vessel and twin di.
rubbish for £545

Snap!  -  Although I paid about £700 for it  :(

Oh how we live and learn!

Andy
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: richard jagger on April 21, 2010, 09:11:57 am
This thread is of great value and should be run permanent.It would stop bad products supplied to us.Well down would the mods pay head and keep it at the top of the page with summerys of oyur finding at useing a product.
E G whats the ruling on flkat rooves
 Here one just bought a velve from gardeners.The snap ( John Guest type) they leak something cronic.I am going to try thread tape
Come Guys lets get this up permenently. 
 
 
 
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Pj on April 21, 2010, 09:30:29 am
"Dog eared" squeegee!  What a stupid idea! 
I've been stuck with a "dog eared" blade for years, I keep meaning to throw away.  Ruined a good tool.  I've tested with and without, without is much better.
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Central Window Cleaners on April 21, 2010, 01:25:10 pm
12volt remote I bought to stop my pump was absolutely useless and wasted more water than I did before I used it.

Garden tap timer so that my ro would fill the tank while I was out without it over filling. Reduced the flow so much nothing was going through the merlin.

Cheap pumps from ebay that only last a couple of weeks before the pressure switch leaks more water than it pumps through the pole.
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: weetot on April 21, 2010, 01:57:50 pm
Vikan sill brush ( too heavy by far)
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: dmlservices on April 21, 2010, 02:43:43 pm
i woild have to add the new supalite from gardiners, original is excellent , new one is crap


daz
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: paul rulton on April 21, 2010, 02:47:50 pm
i woild have to add the new supalite from gardiners, original is excellent , new one is crap


daz
how new is new? i got mine back in november, i really like it  :)
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Moderator David@stives on April 21, 2010, 02:56:44 pm
sorbo squeegie,

indoor vikan kit

wagtail

green unger Boab and pouches (look filthy after a week )

old fibre glass poles.

brodex gooseneck

supalite brushes


Diy systems,This might upset some people,   I know , I know, they made me money, but I also reckon they gave me a lot of jip over the years.

Window cleaning dvds

window cleaning get rich e-books

Unger Neoprine gloves,

Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: jonnyald on April 21, 2010, 03:12:40 pm
whats wrong with the WAGTAIL ? I  cant fault my wagtail though it looks/feels cheap. (id like to hear of another squeegee with the same reach as the wag)
 
my Unger zero degree has a naff design of the clamp that grips  the channel and poor reach
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Moderator David@stives on April 21, 2010, 03:15:09 pm
jonny, it is stuck in my useless pile, along with my george forman grill and teesmade. All good in some respects but useless in others
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: paul rulton on April 21, 2010, 03:22:53 pm
david, wots wrong with the indoor vikan kit? was thinkin of gettin 1.
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Moderator David@stives on April 21, 2010, 03:43:01 pm
You can only clean a couple of windows with each pad, thats saying if the windows are already clean.

sometimes you can have too much kit.

Our vans just have wfp, squeegie washer and bucket.
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: jarvy on April 21, 2010, 04:13:21 pm
Unger pill,would have been better off using my missus's contraceptive pill  ;D
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: richard jagger on April 21, 2010, 04:37:53 pm
The Unger Fixi Clamp will not hold a miro fibre for longer than one or two wipes.
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: richard jagger on April 21, 2010, 04:45:27 pm
I agree with Dave those DVDs how to clean windows are made for the mentally bewildered. The e books on get rich window cleaned and the fools whgo write them I think they have never cleaned a window ever.They apply the marketing to so many trades and industries and call themselves experts.Read one you have read all.
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Dave Willis on April 21, 2010, 04:47:11 pm
Have you bought supplies that are simply a waste of money?
Here's mine:

Oilflow solvent remover. So weak that it takes all day to break down the solvent or sticky residue on glass and plastic.

Astonish oven cleaner - doesn't work on ovens but is ok for upvc

Fleetclean tfr - simply useless at the recommended dilution rates for conservatory roofs. Works ok if really strong but stains any glass if it drys

Windsol crystal clear mineral deposit/calcium remover - ruined two windows with it and it works no better than cheap Viakal

Gardiners first series plastic clamps - used to snap and ping off for a pastime (new ones are perfect)

Gardiners mark1 superlight pole. Fantasticlly light and stiff but would snap if you sneezed on it it was a Maver fishing pole unlike the current  version.

Ungers fluid - not the normal one but a free bottle that was given away by one supplier for testing. Awe-full stuff that left a residue that couldn't be seen untill it was too late.

Leisure batteries that don't last nine months.

Vikan sill brush - scrubs really well but is twice as heavy as it needs to be.

Finally any glassfibre telescopic pole including my telescopic jet washing lance - dreadful clamps, far too heavy and flexible.

Have you bought anything you aren't happy with?

Would be interesting to know what you used instead of these items Dave...


Well nailpolish remover (non acetone) works faster than Oilflow and is far cheaper. Even WD40 works better.
Cheap as chips upvc cream works wonders on guttering - quick squirt on my brush and it froths up lovely and cleans everything off better than tfr. Most conservatory roofs clean up well even with tap water if you give the algae a ten minute soak first (like we do with tfr)
Viakal for calcium deposits
Poles - well the slx clamps are sorted and the S2 is pretty strong so no complaints there.
Vikan brushes - they are dumped in the van bucket and never come out since I bought Gardiners Superlight brushes.
The Unger fluid never gets used - I normally use squeegee off.

Just remembered the worst of all (and it was my fault) was a gutter scoop Gardiners made after I pestered Alex. Cost me £60 and was totally useless  ;D
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: richard jagger on April 21, 2010, 05:02:52 pm
Another was miricle clean window cleaning liquid so bad my wife would not even use it for dishes.
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: dmlservices on April 21, 2010, 05:08:59 pm
i woild have to add the new supalite from gardiners, original is excellent , new one is crap


daz
how new is new? i got mine back in november, i really like it  :)
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new as in i bought a few weeks ago, did you use the original?

daz
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: Dave Willis on April 21, 2010, 05:21:42 pm
I like the new ones - got both the flocked and mono with the extra splay.
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on April 21, 2010, 06:03:10 pm
Unger ergotec system- stiff, heavy, massively oversized & uncomfortable.

Exel f/glass poles- need I say more.

Vikan oval brushes- (most windows are square!)

Unger liquid- as said, crap, leaves white residue on some glass.

Unger monsoon sleeves- Too thick, heavy & hold too much water

Purolite resin- Just pants!
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: G Griffin on April 21, 2010, 07:25:45 pm
jonny, it is stuck in my useless pile, along with my george forman grill and teesmade. All good in some respects but useless in others
I could knock you up a diy hot water system with those  ;). 
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: ian1965 on April 21, 2010, 07:46:52 pm
Unger pill,would have been better off using my missus's contraceptive pill  ;D
;D
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: weetot on April 21, 2010, 08:07:53 pm
Oh yeah i forgot about those extel fibre glass jobbies, they give you tennis elbow in 4 months.

It costs more for the painkillers, than it does for the pole, which i suppose is a bonus, oh god i'm back peddling now.  ;D
Title: Re: rubbish products
Post by: dazmond on April 21, 2010, 08:08:10 pm
unger ergotech pouch because of the velcro(keeps coming undone and slips off my belt!)

small pocket scrapers(they rust up after 2 days even with wd40!)

small microwipes(next to useless!far too small!).

thats it really! ;D ;D