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Title: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 13, 2010, 05:16:08 am
 ;D after 2 weeks wait at last got my new machine ;D ;D its well good getting me head round the fact you dont see water coming out of the wand or hand tools ::)
and the fact is you can clean with much higher pressure with the hand tool then a normal system because no water goes flying every where ;D you get a 33ft hose thats got built in pressure pipe so no more getting it round your feet,my machine is all black it looks like something out of star wars :o

renamed it R2 TEL 2 OR MIGHT CALL IT DARTH BLEEDER  ;D :-X
it is a great bit of kit well worth the money solid in how its made all in all a very good quality machine and looks great,Karl at Amtech very helpful can honestly
recomend this machine ;D
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: from edge2edge on April 13, 2010, 07:12:25 am
Is it the 500 psi one   Regards Alan(swindon)
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 13, 2010, 07:30:13 am
Hi Alan it shows 600 on the dial but I know for sure it is 500psi its the top of the range model as the 1080 goes heat etc you get constant hot it has coils in line heater,cleaver system ;D
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: from edge2edge on April 13, 2010, 08:12:50 am
Morning Terry i had its big brother for 3 years and found it an excellent piece of kit which did a great job and was always impressing the customers as it looked so good in blue so see what comments you get with your black one.   Make sure you rinse it out at the end of the day and run the vacs for at least 3 to 5 mins to dry it out then leave the lid off overnight this will help it last longer.Regards Alan
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: AJB on April 13, 2010, 08:18:32 am
It shows 600Psi because it is.
The pumps fitted are 1000 Psi regulated down.
The perfect heat system is only rated at 500Psi, so
be careful running higher than 500Psi.
my PX 1350Ph hits 700Psi.
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: collins ReVive Stoneworks on April 13, 2010, 08:28:06 am
How much Ya paid terry???


 :D
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 13, 2010, 09:17:52 am
Thanks guys for info running this around 200 250 seems plenty it works quite differant than the normal models,its like where is the water dont see it any more ;D karl I have been sworn to a secret :olets just say I paid a show price  ;D
the cost of these is around £3,300 with vat I paid  :-X :-X :-X :-X I am really pleased,I did the deal at the show,which I would say try and do one its the best place to do one.I had to wait 2 weeks or so they sold out at the show of lots of models,I wanted to take one home but could not  :'(
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: siddeeq on April 13, 2010, 11:58:04 am
i was confused as to why mine shows 1000psi on the gauge when was under the impression it is regulated at 500psi?  :-\ am very new to these but results are great
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: siddeeq on April 13, 2010, 12:00:02 pm
...the 1350 that is
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: AJB on April 13, 2010, 01:23:35 pm
It's a standard pressure gauge, they probably don't
make 500 Psi gauges.
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: COLIN BRIGHT on April 13, 2010, 01:58:25 pm
hello Terry, how are you doing with your new web site?, i remember when we spoke at the cleaning show you were just getting it up and running
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Joe H on April 13, 2010, 04:40:45 pm
i was confused as to why mine shows 1000psi on the gauge when was under the impression it is regulated at 500psi?  :-\ am very new to these but results are great

your car speedometer might show max 140 but your car may only do 100 in reality. Same thing
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: siddeeq on April 13, 2010, 05:00:10 pm
Yea figured as much...thanks for clarifying...just read this and thought hmm.

It shows 600Psi because it is.
The pumps fitted are 1000 Psi regulated down.
The perfect heat system is only rated at 500Psi, so
be careful running higher than 500Psi.
my PX 1350Ph hits 700Psi.

thanks again all
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 13, 2010, 09:13:44 pm
Hi colin very slow down south :-\ machine great
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: VOGUE CARPET CARE on April 16, 2010, 02:14:05 am
Terry,
Has the new machine poked out yet,and is it a good sucker!!?, please keep me informed.
                                        Regards
                                          Vince
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 16, 2010, 05:23:09 am
 ;D Hi vince have a full day with it today  ;D I think you will like this machine there
is no over spill with water on the wand or hand tool the jets are sort of hidden,the hand tool alone sets you back £300  :o but when you see the quality
of everything you understand every thing is well made nothing like what you and I have just seen! I have mentioned you to karl at amtech, vince if your over my way you can pop in 4 cuppa have a demo  ::) karl is very helpful and just a very nice guy to deal with a gives you a complete run down on every thing,I have now stopped using powder ::) and gone over to micro spraying first,
and just using water to wash carpets clean,machine gets hot it just works all differant, I am very pleased The guys from the carpet cleaning show told me I would be and there are correct! ;D and it looks the dogs whatsits :o
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: trevor perry on April 16, 2010, 06:59:15 pm
hi terry
  how did you get on with the machine today, do you find it needs filling and emptying too often as its spec says it runs at 6 litres a minute so that would only be 6 minutes of cleaning per fill i know this is running at its full 500psi which you probably wont use so often but i would be interested to hear how you found water use at the pressures you use.
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 17, 2010, 07:59:54 am
Hi Trev I was using around 250 psi found this to ok did not finf to be filling up to much at this pressure,what I did notice because the jets are hidden no overspray the machine is the best I have used so far for suction it really picks up
the dirt out of the carpet I have had a ninja,Rhino,and weeks ago took a mytee
back because of its problems ::) this machine I think is one of the best portys on the market power wise,even the hand tool has hidden jets this picks up every bit of water you cant go wrong  ;D and the other thing you lay the machine on the van just lift roll in,no humping in or anything,
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Adam Fearnley on April 17, 2010, 08:56:51 pm
Them perfect heat coils od nothing top increase heat, I tested the temp with the vacs turned off, and then on, and ran them for a while, heated cold water about 1-2 degrees.  Fortunatedly I have a heater in muine aswell.  I think they are maybe a con :'(
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 18, 2010, 07:11:24 am
I think the heat is ok but no doubt after trying machines of differant makes,if you want added heat big time,then add a inline heater as well,but to be honest the results so far I am getting with this machine is good,
I think the vacs on this are very strong in fact I think they are the best I have tested,I have had ,ninja,mytee,Rhino so this wins all defo  ;D
may be you have a little problem with your heat as when the heat come in up the wand the brass nut is to hot to handle :-\
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: richy27 on April 18, 2010, 09:26:09 am
the wonder wand is designed to be used at about 400 psi  or not enough water is hitting the carpet.  If you are using at 250 sure you will produce loads of heat but you wont be flushing the carpet correctly and leaving pre spray behind. at 400 you will be flushing correctly but heat will reduce obviously as flow rate is increased.

The wonder wand ( i have used one consideable amount of time) will leave the carpets drier but will clean as good as a conventional wand.
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 18, 2010, 10:09:59 am
must say richard its lke learning again :-\ the wand does capture every drop of water,the thing I cant get use to yet is not seeing the water :-\ but of course it happens but the hand tool is my little darling great for sofas  ;D
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: richy27 on April 18, 2010, 12:22:26 pm
must say richard its lke learning again :-\ the wand does capture every drop of water,the thing I cant get use to yet is not seeing the water :-\ but of course it happens but the hand tool is my little darling great for sofas  ;D

thats the problem terry at low pressure the WW recovers most of the solution before it hits the carpet that is why it gives h impression of drier carpets
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Adam Fearnley on April 18, 2010, 01:03:27 pm
True, I use mine usually at 400 psi, 500 if badly soiled, you can use the hand tool at less psi though.
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 18, 2010, 01:13:15 pm
very much learning about this way so all tips most welcome ;D I do like the machine  ;D Karl at Amtech said best to usr micro splitters presray which I do first then just clean water and wand away as normal,seems to work
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: clinton on April 18, 2010, 01:24:47 pm
Plenty of agitation with the pre spray terry spec on really dirty carpets..
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 18, 2010, 01:36:37 pm
you guys use these chemicals :-\
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: richy27 on April 18, 2010, 04:25:25 pm
you guys use these chemicals :-\

Alot will depend on carpet type level of soiling. expect amtech told you to us M/S  one step i presume because is a safe option.

try some of solutions M/S much better IMO. 

I really only use M/S on maintanance cleans ( basically when cleanng clean carpets)

I carry 4 dif type of carpet pre spray in the van and they all have there use in a variety of situatons.
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Joe H on April 18, 2010, 04:37:17 pm
There is no one fix for all situations Terry.

What I do recommend is you keep to prespraying (whatever it takes), aggitation, and rinsing with just clean water.
Carry various spotters for the bits that dont come out with the prespray.

and I agree with what Richard said earlier re pressure and the wonderwand. Due to its technology, you do need to run at higher pressure (or so I was told)
I had a winderwand with my CFR500, and I used it at 500psi, but the water was being recycled in that machine so usage (topping up) wasnt an issue.
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: richy27 on April 18, 2010, 05:59:54 pm
in a nut shell terry ditch the wonderwand buy a decent twin jet  or you will be forever fillng up with water.
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 18, 2010, 07:02:17 pm
interesting :-\ I will moniter this and see how things go  :-\ I know you like ww or you hate them,but I did notice it did prefer higher psi when using it,eg I went from 200psi to just under 300 psi which did seem to work better time will tell and I will report my findings hopefully all good :-\
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Adam Fearnley on April 18, 2010, 08:52:23 pm
Isn't solutions' M/S safe on wool richard? I use Amtechs premium, seems ok, is there a noticable difference?
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: richy27 on April 18, 2010, 09:01:38 pm
Isn't solutions' M/S safe on wool richard? I use Amtechs premium, seems ok, is there a noticable difference?

adam

yes solutions standard M/S is fine on wool.  i believe its better but dont use much M/S not a massive believer. Itend to nuke it neutralise at the end of the day the custy wants clean and couldnt give two hoots about being eco friendly.
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Adam Fearnley on April 18, 2010, 10:07:05 pm
So whats your preferred prespray Richard??
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: richy27 on April 19, 2010, 08:10:31 am
So whats your preferred prespray Richard??

obviously depending on carpet type.

 for synthetics i do get great results with powerburst even use it on trashed wool. pre spray gold is pretty good too and ultrapac renovate on polyprop
Title: Re: power flight pfx 1080
Post by: Terry_Burrows on April 23, 2010, 04:14:08 pm
 ;D cleaned a custy today first time using the new machine,she said 100% much better result than my last machine, every one so far
are very pleased with the results of there carpets! I think I have finaly found a good machine at last,it gets very hot to,