Clean It Up

UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mazz2299 on April 06, 2010, 09:22:45 pm

Title: help needed????
Post by: mazz2299 on April 06, 2010, 09:22:45 pm
just a quick question how would i go about askin my boss to sell me some work,iv been pondering 4 weeks now help wanted
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on April 06, 2010, 09:25:52 pm
open mouth say " WILL YOU SELL ME SUM WORK " close mouth
open ears listen 4 reply simples  ;D ;D
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: mci services on April 06, 2010, 09:27:10 pm
boss can i have a word please? boss says yes (suspiciously) you say ive been thinking of starting on my own would you be willing to sell me some work?

boss says yes or your halving a laugh
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: barry mallett on April 06, 2010, 09:42:49 pm
make him an offer he cant refuse ;)
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: mazz2299 on April 06, 2010, 09:51:04 pm
cheers fellas hes not so easy 2 talk 2 so askin him 2 sell would b like bangin my head on a brick wall,another thing he likes 2 say is its not makin anything,and i know differnt with wot i make him in a day......
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on April 06, 2010, 09:53:02 pm
go for it  ;)
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: mci services on April 06, 2010, 10:02:11 pm
cheers fellas hes not so easy 2 talk 2 so askin him 2 sell would b like bangin my head on a brick wall,another thing he likes 2 say is its not makin anything,and i know differnt with wot i make him in a day......

it may seem like that if you do an lets say for eg. £100 and he pays you say well whatever. but then he needs to pay insurance,fuel, bank charges, the list goes on and on so once you take all that into account he may be telling the truth
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: mazz2299 on April 06, 2010, 10:07:41 pm
no doubt it i clean windows on the estate i live on.???
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on April 06, 2010, 10:10:27 pm
i see yr fr burnley anywhere nr bacup ways lad
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on April 06, 2010, 10:13:27 pm
u cud be the mazz i spent sum time wiv back in 05
wuda bin the summer 05 u mad burnley fan ????
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on April 06, 2010, 10:19:03 pm
where were u in 05 pal up nr preston by any chance
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on April 06, 2010, 10:35:33 pm
well
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: mci services on April 06, 2010, 10:41:10 pm
no doubt it i clean windows on the estate i live on.???

so doesnt he need to pay insurances and fuel etc and remember he needs to make a profit as well or its pointless employing. you get a job with none of the hassle he has and he gets profit

but if you want go for it just ask. the worst he can say is no
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: davids3511 on April 06, 2010, 10:54:54 pm
no doubt it i clean windows on the estate i live on.???

so doesnt he need to pay insurances and fuel etc and remember he needs to make a profit as well or its pointless employing. you get a job with none of the hassle he has and he gets profit

but if you want go for it just ask. the worst he can say is no
Worst he can say is here's your P45, don't come back. The first company I ever worked for immediately put staff on leave once they handed in their notice in case the poached customers.
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: mci services on April 06, 2010, 11:01:18 pm
no doubt it i clean windows on the estate i live on.???

so doesnt he need to pay insurances and fuel etc and remember he needs to make a profit as well or its pointless employing. you get a job with none of the hassle he has and he gets profit

but if you want go for it just ask. the worst he can say is no
Worst he can say is here's your P45, don't come back. The first company I ever worked for immediately put staff on leave once they handed in their notice in case the poached customers.
thats true and i would probably do the same unless the work he wants to buy is really bad and no where near the rest of my customer base, then i might sell
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: mci services on April 07, 2010, 10:13:46 pm
surely he didnt delete himself because he didnt like the advice did he. i wanted to know how he got on ::)
 i was just being honest with my views
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: formb on April 08, 2010, 01:11:16 pm
There is no way I'd sell my customers to any of my guys.

There is no way I'd sell my customers to anyone though.

I know quite a few window cleaners who employ and are sick to the back teeth of it

Speak to him there is perhaps a franchise deal to be had.....

This is perhaps a better proposal than:

"Excuse me, I know you have given me a job, trained me up and helped me out but I'm thinking about setting up in direct competition against you, fancy giving me a hand to start up?"
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: formb on April 08, 2010, 02:04:53 pm
cheers fellas hes not so easy 2 talk 2 so askin him 2 sell would b like bangin my head on a brick wall,another thing he likes 2 say is its not makin anything,and i know differnt with wot i make him in a day......

This is the same guy who no doubt carried on paying you in January despite the fact that no ****er could clean any chuffing windows 'cause it was too chuffing cold.

Now the chuffing suns come out you decide "oh cheers for that I'm off now, gizza hand to set up against you will you?"

Charming.
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: ivesonswc on April 08, 2010, 04:09:08 pm
I don't know about every one else but if i was your boss i would have got you to sign a contract of employment with a no compete clause in it.
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: richard jagger on April 08, 2010, 04:36:12 pm
Contract with a barring clause to keep him out of the area for a reasonable time after he left. If it was done rite upfront.
The better way would be to, if he was good and a reliable sort that could be a threat to your business help set him up as a partner in a branch of your business. But make him work for the privilege
Question him about him knowledge of business and put the fear of God into him with questions and doughty. Ask him does think him he will never survive in these times with out my support..
Just a after thought He might think his bosss is on this forum?
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: formb on April 08, 2010, 04:40:14 pm
Contract with a barring clause to keep him out of the area for a reasonable time after he left. If it was done rite upfront.
The better way would be to, if he was good and a reliable sort that could be a threat to your business help set him up as a partner in a branch of your business. But make him work for the privilege
Question him about him knowledge of business and put the fear of God into him with questions and doughty. Ask him does think him he will never survive in these times with out my support..
Just a after thought He might think his bosss is on this forum?

He may well know his boss is on this forum. But if he aint going to be up front about it..........
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: mci services on April 08, 2010, 04:54:15 pm
i think lammy scared him away with the barrage of questions on where he was from :D
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: stephen.b1 on April 08, 2010, 05:07:57 pm
i dont think mathew wants me to reply to this one but i will after i come back from colecting on the estate he lives on ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: mci services on April 08, 2010, 05:19:13 pm
i dont think mathew wants me to reply to this one but i will after i come back from colecting on the estate he lives on ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: paul saunders on April 08, 2010, 05:45:44 pm
Don't be too hard on him, most employees want to be their own boss at some time.  ;)
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: stephen.b1 on April 08, 2010, 05:51:46 pm
employe hes my bl---y son in law
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: paul saunders on April 08, 2010, 05:53:19 pm
In that case................. give him hell!!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: mci services on April 08, 2010, 06:31:52 pm
lol this is brilliant ;D well at least hes showing ambition
Title: Re: help needed????
Post by: paul saunders on April 08, 2010, 09:37:44 pm
Well!! how did it go?