Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: lee_dewing on July 25, 2005, 10:49:18 am
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hi anyone got a procurve pole system by mr longarm, saw video link on windowcleancentre site, only problem didn't show using on houses, also have to swap tools over on top cone wet window then, click on squeegee. but did look really flexible, just thought of it as mention of wagtails on here want to buy a pole but lot of people have said to hard to use ans not good results.
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Hi
I got a pro curve pole a few months back. Its great for doing large panes of glass like shop windows.
If you get one you will also need to buy the handle attachments for the applicator and squeegee
Thats about it.
Cheers Ian
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Just found this after a search!
So I thought I would bump it up the forum again.
Does anyone have the link for this??
Ian
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Here you go:
www.mrlongarm.com/video.html
(http://www.mrlongarm.com/video.html
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the link doesn't work!!
bum! :'(
http://www.mrlongarm.com/ProcurveVideo.html
Have modified my post, through internet explorer you can view the video.
Or just copy it and paste it into your browser..worked for me anyway 8)
For the full on trad boys, think this looks a good way of utilising a pole system on work where you would need a ladder, or maybe over a conservatory (well, some conservatory's anyway ::))
Ian
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i have just ordered one should be here tomorrow
all my work is commercial so hopeing it will make a big differance when cleaning insides as i use wfp i will let you know how i get on with it
can't see it being much use for domestic though
cheers bobby
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It looks alright I suppose.
Not much use for it on the average job though.
Unless you've got lots of odd shaped windows it probably isn't worth it.
Funny thing is, they were saying "Look how fast this is!", and I was thinking I could have done it already with a normal pole..... ;D
They didn't half make hard work of some of those straightforward windows. :o
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looks good though squeaky just need to learn a few fancy moves with it ;D
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I DON'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Spent all that money on WFP and all I needed was i PRO CURVE!!!!
David
;D ;D ;D
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Where did you order it from Bobby.
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I got mine from here 8 months ago and I find it very useful for some jobs
http://www.windowcleancentre.co.uk/default.aspx
JohnL
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same place as john
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Rog,
Take a closer look at the clip, time the guy on your watch, look at the economy of movement. Keep in perspective the size of the pane of glass.
Leisurely and fast.
Here you have a pole that can add an extra dimension to trad cleaning, and you are highly dismissive of it :o
I might be WFP, but I will quite probably get this pole, perhaps it is a gimmick, until I trry it out for myself and learn the techniques of using it I will never know.
In 22 years I have never stopped trying new things or new techniques, how long did it take you to try out the microfibre cloth you will now enthuse about??
You were 2 years behind me on that one, and I raved about them to you a long time ago.
I told you in town the other week how I had developed a very fast technique with a pole for doing large shop windows, even those for which I didn't even need a pole to reach the top edge.
Thank you Unger and the swivel lock handle for that one!
spending out £70 or so on a new pole, squeegee, applicator and a couple of channels may well pay for itself hand over fist in the long run, and if it doesn't? well it's tax deductable innit?
I'm not really getting at Squeaks here, sorry Rog, am really just using you to highlight how all of us should keep an open mind, try new products, keep experimenting.
Trad or WFP...doesn't matter, keep learning, no matter how long you are in the job, there is always something that comes along that will help make your life that little bit easier!!!
Ian
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Here, Here, Ian!!!
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Ian, saying that it isn't much use for standard houses, and that they weren't that fast with it, isn't "highly dismissive"!
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it may not be anywhere near as fast as on a window that is of a normal house type window, but it may allow you to get at those windows you simply cannot get at normally, ie, over conservatory's.
My own interest in the pole is for my commercial work, but I can see plenty of applications in it for domestic work.
you are not going to use it on that upstairs bedroom window wneh yo can just as easily slap the ladder up and do it up close.
And on certain straight forward, easy windows above a green and slippery decking it could well be the sensible option.
Ian
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it doesnt seem to do much more than a ledger
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I nearly bought a pro curve a few days back then found the pulex swivel t bar and squeegie handles and already have poles in differant sizes so thought i would try those first.
Its for commercial work inside got to be better than using a ladder.
But i may still buy one yet if i don't get on with the pulex ones
Paul
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the trick about the Procurve is the bend at the neck of the pole.
think of a goose neck, add a revolving ie 360 swivel to the head which is interchangeable with a washer or the squeegy and how you hold and handle the pole end transmits the position of the head to the glass.
very very usefull on large areas and on those bigger domestic windows which are situated above a porch or bay window which you cant get to only with an extension on a pole and then you cant quite get to the bottom of the window. With the 'curve' you can. I have about a dozen windows I could not do without the Procurve, which could be a loss of a dozen customers.
just watch the video
JohnL
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Its something I was chatting to Lewis Doubtfire about and thinking the swivel bit and offset may have applications for wfp work. (for me a swivel brush is an absolute requirement) The top section of the Procurve apparently fits the N03 section of the Unger pole.
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Jeff Brimble said - The top section of the Procurve apparently fits the N03 section of the Unger pole
I take it you mean the plastic holder which takes the heads ie washer and squeegee bars - that could be usefull but you would lose the curve :(
JohnL
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JohnL , I wanted to know if the complete top piece and elbow and swivel, cross fitted into any of the other Unger sections. Lewis has one. However I use telepole and he uses the other unger type so I will have to wait till I get hands on. Unless someone else with one could check it out.
Its just that I think that a goose neck with a swivel joint (like procurve) may be a big help when WFPing but I may be wrong.
Ammended later, wasnt a tel call heres his email description.
" Yes,the Tele pole No.3 goes into the middle section(No.2) procurve which in turn of course then the No.1(the
LEWIS into or, over as per normal unger ?
goose neck end) of the procurve.It screws up nice and tight.
The Unger No3 goes over the middle section of the Pro-Curve no2 so that the Pro-curve No2 is going into
the Unger No3.
Another way of putting it would be the Pro-Curve No.2 fits into the Unger No3
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jeff - I think I can fathom out that '' email '' :)
If an Unger tele pole could be fitted to a Procurve that would be pretty good but I expect any brush would be heavy and render the swivel action fairly unworkable but would like to hear thats a wrong assumption.
JohnL
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John have only ever seen the swivel action on the procurve demo.
Any common "floor" brush as David has used is usually about 8oz and could be reduced by drilling holes as jm123 showed a pic of and shaving a bit off the back and fitted with external hose.
So the brushes can be lightened ( I have a very light 3.5oz "brush") even though any offset dramatically increase the torque and leverage required.
Its a shame that the top two sections only fit the 3rd Unger. I was hoping to use the just the swivel and part of gooseneck and fit it to an unger.
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I suppose you could buy one, cut and fit the necessary bits to make that work
- are you there Matt - sounds like your site here ;D
JohnL
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Thanks everyone, yes it is a diy issue really so maybe will start a topic on Matts site.
Its just that I have used a swivel brush for 8 years and was just trying to help find an easy way for many of you to experience it