Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dan roberts on July 23, 2005, 08:41:05 pm
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Hello to all who read this. I'm living in Devon, and am interested in starting carpet clean bus. to make pots of money, well, more than the £6.50 per hour i earn now anyway!
I have the NCCA stuff to do the course. Should I do the course?
What machine do I buy?
Should I lease one first?
How much is insurance?
Help please!
Thank you
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yes learn and go for it in devon .clean it up take a training course and buy a ninja . lots of opportunity in devon i hope you do well best wishes ron
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Thanks buddy. A ninja you say? how much be one of they? !
Opportunities in Devon? are you local?
The NCCA course is just under 300 pounds, is there a cheaper alternative with the same results? Or a more local venue rather than leicsester?
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yes many courses available . local to you and lomndon areas . my personal machines are ashbys ninjas but being in devon it may be prudent to look for good machines your area it would never do you coming to kent i am joking before i get in more trouble i brlieve threr is a solution close to you but i darent mention the name ron sherlock loved and cared for feng shui :o :o :o ninja could cost up to £4000. but i do no were there is a used one very reasonable good luck
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four thousand big ones for a ninja? You could surely buy a real ninja for that.
Now then, would it be damn right foolish to lease a Karcher from Jewsons to make money in the first instance to then purchase a Ninja (or any other martial artist named machine) in the future?
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well proper equipment costs lots you can buy equipment cheap but will not do the job think about leasing after you know the maeket perhaps that would work out £100 pm and dosent need big outlay .good equip is expensive be carefull. ::)forget karcher.good machine but not for a pro carpet cleaner still you could learn something from it try express cleaning supplies our sponsor e mail is on this sitr im sure they will help mazeltov ron
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The NCCA course is the one to go for, very good course content, the prop with manufacters coures as i see them, is that they steer you towards there chems and machines,not much wrong with that,but you need to know more about what is out there,the NCCA course will teach you how to clean,then look around at the various machines and types of chemicals.
But training is the most important part to get under your belt first, dont skimp on training costs, you wouldnt expect to be a doctor by doing a cheap course,would you?
Once you have done all this,then with the right marketing, you can expect to earn £60 per hour as a professional.
Dave
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I have to ask the question why you want to become a carpet cleaner. If its just to earn more money then you will IMO probably fail.
A good business man will have a passion for his business and will have many other goals than just to make more money. This will be the reason for his success. He has a plan.
If your serious and i suggest you tell us your name other than carpetsausages, then go out with a cleaner for a day to make sure you like cleaning carpets before you take the plunge.
Mark
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hi guys was thinking of buying rug doctor machine for cleaning 3pce suites would this machine be up for this type of work all replies much appreciated thanks john
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no is the simple answer, or as john macenroe would say YOU CANT BE SERIOUS. forget that avenue save your money.suites have rather a lot of different categories, types of material.some you cant touch some have to be solvent cleaned.and it goes on and on. i love them and work daily on suites and others detest them and would never touch them. and this is a very hard and ifficult business to get into .its easy buying equipment and training but it is hard to get work.and when you do it might just not make you enough money. trust me 100s of people every year try in this cc game and lose all. be warned dont listen to how well everybodys doing you fave only got to look on ebay how many are selling there equipment and getting out. but if business is good and your ruthless enought to get work then go for it best ron
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Hi John
Not an ideal machine for cleaning suites however small and easy to manage, although a skilled technician using the correct training and the correct attachments will be able to clean suite without to much of a problem, Solvent cleaning is only necessary on an exeptionally small amount of upholstery, so this should not present a problem, in ten years I have never required a solvent cleaning machine to clean a suite! ::) ::)
Why are you considering a rug doctor for this?
Best regards Nick
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i have to say solvent cleaning used by me is on a very often basis but then i clean alot of suites. also an add on if you have inbuilt solvent cleaner on your machine. you can start cleaning hanging curtains very profitable. if you use hwe alone on curtains difficult to clean, i know.others who say you can clean suites with just hwe, are really doing it wrong ,just look at the label on the suite to see how many say dry clean only. do not use water.alot of cleaners ignore it and therfor the solvent question does not apply to them cause they aint got one.it just goes to show the last post said he has never in 10 years. ask why if hes cleaning suites and saying they dont have the lable dry clean only he talking rubbish i see them daily . do it right or best not to do it. ron suite supremo with no products to sell you best of luck
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a lot of the time suite manufacturers will use a generic label on their suites a lot will put a label on them saying requires specialist cleaning for cleaning call servicemaster, i bet you don't read this and then tell the customer that you can't clean it only servicemaster know how to clean that suite.
If you have received proper training and on the job experience you will know that if you carry out all the correct tests and take the correct precautions then you will know that a lot of the time these labels don't always tell the truth, Like i have heard people say about your threads sherlock, DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ. These labels are normally just to stop the owner carrying out a do it yourself job!
Goron
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that is right that label says what you say call sevicemaster .if that be the case you will have to work it out what your cleaning can be hwe cleaned , im saying theres plenty that can only be dry cleaned. fact dont use water use sulvent cleaning thats all.
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Ron
As an qualified IICRC level carpet and upholstery cleaner I speak as a qualifeid technician, even curtains can be cleaned without solvent. There is no requirement to clean with solvent, just to have an understanding of the absorbency levels of the material you are cleaning, to know what chemical you can use and to be able to dry the said material as you are working. Many people still solvent clean cotton, when was the last time you dry cleaned a pair of jeans, if the are cleaning is completed correctly with adequate time taken then there is no problem, and if solvent is not used there is no risk to the technician or the customer in breathing in noxious fumes.
Best regards Nick
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Are the results you get with solvent cleaning not as good as hwe.I have never ever required to clean a suite using solvent.Can you name a material that requires just solvent cleaning ???
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viscose ;D ;D
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I have used the von shrader system to clean rayon (viscose) and cotton velvets with no adverse affect.The point I'm trying to make is how many people have purchased a ninja with inbuilt solvent cleaner and not used it.Its another £600 or so on the price of the machine so for someone to recommend solvent cleaning for suites is a bit misleading for newbies reading this thread as there are very few suites of this type of material nowadays
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im sorry ther are many fabrics both in curtains suites even oriental rugs that result in solvent cleaning only.you may try to say hwe is ok .because you dont have or dont use any solvent cleaning . training courses teach on some of them the benefits ashbys being one ther is nothing misleading in this thread . one assumes newbies oldies .and anybody else will be shown why solvent cleaning is used. i know alot of you dont have the addition because its expensive . but seeing how often this forum tells us how good you all are. and how the customer comes first,to then say solvent is never used its never used BY THOSE WHO HAVENT GOT IT. CANT AFFORD. AND DONT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. do not be misled it is a valable and proffessional tool.i should know with my experience 8)
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well, i did buy a solvent cleaning machine yrs ago, total waste of money, used it twice with poor results,i have never since "dry cleaned" with solvent, but IF you know what you are doing, hwe is the only way to get the desired result, i wet cleaned a viscose !0% a few weeks ago, cust very happy with the result, 2 recomends from her to date.
Its all about training experience and COMMON SENSE.
not to much around here at the mo!!
Dave
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Hi
During my IICRC training our instructor Noel Franks actually cleaned a so called dry clean only chair using HWE to prove the point, I therefore repeat there is no requirement to use solvent, cost doesn't come into it, those who are experienced know that.
Regards Nick
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The vast majority of dry clean only labels on 3 piece suites are put on by the manufacturers to cover themselves from liability due to improper cleaning by the customer and inexperienced cleaners. Manufacturers know nothing about cleaning but need to protect themselves from customers who soak, bleach and use all manor of cleaning agents which cause damage to their suites. This in effect has put the ball into the hands of the professional cleaners, who are liable if anything goes wrong. The majority of these suites are wet cleanable as has been stated. It comes down to fibre knowledge, experience and how confident you are in your own ability to clean them safely. In my experience wet cleaning is the best way to clean. Dry cleaning using solvents, even hot solvents, I have found gives a very limited cleaning result. I personally do not use dry cleaning solvents even though I have £3000.00 worth of hot solvent machine sitting in the back of my garage. In my opinion solvents used in the home are not ideal from the health and safety point of view.
Rooms need to be cleared of anything that could be damaged by solvent mist, no humans or pets should be present in the room especially ashma sufferers, all the relevent health and safety equipment should be used, back boilers and naked flames should be turned off in case of ignition, etc. Also there is the possibility of a child or pet sitting on or touching the suite before its properly dried which may affect their skin.
The risk to my customers health is far more important to warrant the use of dry cleaning solvents especially when there are better methods available. I also promote a healthy home cleaning service.
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health problems using solvent ok different views thats what the forum is. except lets pretend you own a suit and it says dry clean only. DO YOU PUT THAT INTO HWE ON YOUR WASHING MACHINE.or perhaps just perhaps you take it to your dry cleaners AND SUFFER THE HEALTH PROBLEMS SO HIGHLIGHTED BY SOME OF YOU.you knw we knw thwy know. you would have it dry cleaned unless it was washable. SO WHAT ARE YOU REALLY SAYING.
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Ron yet again , you open your mouth without really thinking about what you are saying.
I have many items of clothing , a vast number saying dry clean only. Guess what? Her who knows better puts them in the washer, and hey presto , all nice and clean,
and i know that if advise is been sought by myself , I would rather put my faith in some body with the qualifications of the likes of Nick, Derick and many others on here BUT NOT YOU RON!!!!
Geoff.
p.s. remember Ron it says fire on them buckets, but guess what their is sand inside
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THATS nice to see .that your wife is your cleaner im sure she far more than your washer upper. dont be silly you would not wash clothes that were dry clean only unless youre silly. do you think all these dry cleaners in business dont know what the are doing . why not buy an cashmere wool coat for around £ 599 and stick that in your washing machine. pleasehave sense im glad im not your wife i would want a little more respect thanks ron
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did I mention a wife, your been presuptious...................... now as you always seem to be picking up on finer points of replys etc. their you go READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN FIRST. "her who knows better" Now that could be any one!!
fair point, about the cashmere, but after all common sense would prevail, and perhaps I should of said " many of the dry clean only, are in fact washed".
As for you been my wife, hhhmmm doubt it Ron after all you would have no time for me, all those suites, half price cleans, and the endless hrs posting drival on here.
Respect for you , well, I shall inform you as soon as I can begin to show you some , but please dont stop breathing whilst your waiting for some respect.
then again might not be a bad idea :-\ :-\
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SO RUDE :-*
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Ron
do you not clean any suites with hwe ? you must clean buffalows/moleskin
with hwe, good pre-spray,scrub with tampico, HIGH temp plenty of solution then a thorough drying with the roughest towel you can find, EASY PEASY
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how many moles do they have to kill to get enough skins to make a 3pc suite ::) ::)
don't let the animal right activist find out we'll all be receiving letter bombs
Mike
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That was the imittation ones ;D