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Title: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 04:49:40 pm
window cleaning warehouse backpack been a pain in the arse sinse i brought it
never wants to kick in
had it apart 3 times tightening everything
now when i flick the switch i hear a clunk from the pump at thats it
also plug in the charger and it goes from freen to red in second
anyone any ideas
i decided to have a few days off weather ok so i thought ill do my own windows
and the ba====ard thing wont work
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: bobplum on April 02, 2010, 04:52:15 pm
if its still under gaurantee send it back
bob
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 05:04:51 pm
how long do you get with them ive changed the fittings on the hose i suppose thatll nullify it although it has no effect on the bloody thing not working
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on April 02, 2010, 05:12:39 pm
which one have you got?  Was thinking of getting one to back up my main kit, to get around tight areas to save time messing with trailing my hose round.  Aslo to use as a backup if my main kit fails whilst waiting for parts.

Will make sure not to get the same one as yours
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 05:14:38 pm
its there own yellow one around the 100 quid mark
from window cleaning warehouse
probably made by a 7 year old in a factory in the arse end of china
thats what i got it for would be handy if it ever works
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on April 02, 2010, 05:17:51 pm
hmm, thats the one I have been looking at.  Not bad value for a back up kit. 

Anyone else had problems with this kit?

How long u had it for?
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 05:22:17 pm
i brought it a few months back but its been sitting in the conservatory un used this was the second time its been out got another one  different supplier and model which i brought a few months before for twice the price no problems use that every day
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on April 02, 2010, 05:26:28 pm
sounds a better system mate.  Which one was to £200 one?  Let us know how you get on getting it changed and if your replacement they send you is any better
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 05:32:40 pm
the other is a shurflo
ive emailed them hopefully get a response after the bank hols
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: prestigeclean on April 02, 2010, 05:32:59 pm
i,ve got 2 of the yellow one,s and have the same issue with charging ie as soon as you put it on charge the light turns green , another problem i,ve had is the internal hose from the pump gets kinked and restricts the flow of water to a dribble , ive changed the hose but it still keeps happening , its a great bit of kit when working but unfortunately thats not often enough , i think i will go with the more expensive shurflo next time regards alan
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 05:43:59 pm
have you spoken to window cleaning warehouse
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on April 02, 2010, 05:44:10 pm
thanks for all the info, you probably saved me a boat loads of hastle. But am sorry it is at your expense.  Shows how useful this forum is.

Surley if they are that dodgy, they need to pull them off the market so save their own rep
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 05:50:29 pm
im not sure whether theyll be open tmr but ill give them a bell in the morning to see what they have to say
just looked at their website it looks like the model has been updated with a battery indicated
thatll be handy another gauge as well as a light to tell you it doesnt work
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: prestigeclean on April 02, 2010, 05:55:12 pm
i spoke to wcw and they sent me a bit of minibore hose to replace the rubbish the chinese put in , it works well on 1 of the bpacks but the other 1 still dribbles out the water regards alan
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 05:56:37 pm
did they say anything about the charging issue
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 06:01:12 pm
i brought it a few months back but its been sitting in the conservatory un used this was the second time its been out got another one  different supplier and model which i brought a few months before for twice the price no problems use that every day
Rcs, where did u get the other 1 from please?  :)
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 06:03:53 pm
ebay
they pop up on there all the time i think theres a couple on there now
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 06:06:27 pm
ebay
they pop up on there all the time i think theres a couple on there now
ok, thanks Rcs  :)  will ave a look now  :)
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on April 02, 2010, 06:14:19 pm
I not long ago completed WCW web page contact form, as was asking about the back packs issues.

The email bounced back.  hmmmm

Never used WCW as of yet, and and not too impressed so far.  Have read lots of good stuff on them too though, so will hold judgment
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 06:14:51 pm
there a used one on there on auction needs a new battery
these can be picked up for a score
also there is the red hat diving version on there i hear good things about them and they are cheap
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 06:16:04 pm
think i will stick 2the yellow 1's  :-\  
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 06:20:04 pm
to be honest i buy from them and wintecs and have always had a good service from both
im sure theyll sort it out once i contact them
if they dont there will be a welshman on tuesday trying to remove a faulty backpack from his anal cavity
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 06:24:26 pm
there doesnt seem to be a awful lot of choice when it comes to backpacks
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: G Griffin on April 02, 2010, 06:29:48 pm
to be honest i buy from them and wintecs and have always had a good service from both
im sure theyll sort it out once i contact them
if they dont there will be a welshman on tuesday trying to remove a faulty backpack from his anal cavity


  Just a normal Tuesday in South Wales then  ;D
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 06:32:21 pm
its not normal in south wales unless there is something wooly involved
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: ronaldo on April 02, 2010, 06:40:14 pm
Ive got 4 of the yellow ones, all been working hard since Christmas with no troubles on any of them, maybe you just had a dodgy batch  :-\
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 06:47:03 pm
Ive got 4 of the yellow ones, all been working hard since Christmas with no troubles on any of them, maybe you just had a dodgy batch  :-\
do they do deals if u buy more than 1? never used them b4 so dont know much
about them  ???
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Fieldsy on April 02, 2010, 06:47:25 pm
Bought the wcw backpack and its has worked continuously for nearly a year (lost one day). Only trouble was the pressure valve breaking down, which wcw kindly sent me another as it was under warranty. I decided to buy another pump and changed it for the original (there's a thread on here somewhere).While I had it to bits, I tightened all battery connectors as they fall off at the drop of a hat, and also changed all external and internal hosing for microbore hosing, so its all a nice yellow colour now :) , and its all working fine.

Have just ordered my sureflo and varistream for van, so it might be taking a backseat now, but its certainly earnt its money over and over again. Cannot really fault it for the price.
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on April 02, 2010, 06:47:41 pm
that sounds more positive.  Lets see what they say about the dodgy one
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 06:50:57 pm
Bought the wcw backpack and its has worked continuously for nearly a year (lost one day). Only trouble was the pressure valve breaking down, which wcw kindly sent me another as it was under warranty. I decided to buy another pump and changed it for the original (there's a thread on here somewhere).While I had it to bits, I tightened all battery connectors as they fall off at the drop of a hat, and also changed all external and internal hosing for microbore hosing, so its all a nice yellow colour now :) , and its all working fine.
so y dont they sort out the probs b4 they send them out?????? makes more sence ::)
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on April 02, 2010, 06:54:52 pm
have to be honest, I prefer to spend a bit more if it means it won't let me down.  But sometimes the cheaper ones come out top.  Just need to know which
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 06:58:20 pm
have to be honest, I prefer to spend a bit more if it means it won't let me down.  But sometimes the cheaper ones come out top.  Just need to know which
cheaper 2pay out a bit more than 2lose time off work  :P
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: ronaldo on April 02, 2010, 07:05:55 pm
Never got discount, but at less than half the price of the shurflo ones we used to use i,m not that bothered.
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on April 02, 2010, 07:07:02 pm
have to be honest, I prefer to spend a bit more if it means it won't let me down.  But sometimes the cheaper ones come out top.  Just need to know which
cheaper 2pay out a bit more than 2lose time off work  :P

yea u right.  

I was getting one though as a back up for my main system to avoid losing time off work.  But if the back up plan fails then I wasted me dosh
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 07:18:16 pm
so is it just the WCW that sells them yellow back packs or r they sold else where??   ???
if so can some 1 please put a link up please   ???   ;D
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 07:19:11 pm
just checked the battery that fine even tho the charger doesnt seem to work  think there is a pump problem ive got a spare 60 psi surflow how easy is it to change
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 07:21:57 pm
type in window cleaning warehouse in google itll pop up
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 07:23:40 pm
fieldsy
 how long are they guaranteed for
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 07:25:40 pm
type in window cleaning warehouse in google itll pop up
ive got there address thanks Rcs  ;) but does anyone else sell them?????
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 07:29:07 pm
the yellow ones are their own only avaliable from them
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: G Griffin on April 02, 2010, 07:33:46 pm
type in window cleaning warehouse in google itll pop up
ive got there address thanks Rcs  ;) but does anyone else sell them?????

  Williamsons Pumps sell them. Google it.
  They are a different colour but they look the same apart from that.
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 07:34:37 pm
the yellow ones are their own only avaliable from them
great  ::) not wot u would class as local 2me  ??? so if it played up its a lot
of messing around  :( :( :(
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 07:41:43 pm
just had a look at the williamson backpack looks very similar to the wcw model but  150 quid
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 08:01:36 pm
just had a look at the williamson backpack looks very similar to the wcw model but  150 quid
i couldnt find it  ??? can u put a link up please?  :-[  :)
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: prestigeclean on April 02, 2010, 08:04:32 pm
facelift also sell the yellow one,s , check there website regards alan
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: G Griffin on April 02, 2010, 08:09:20 pm
just had a look at the williamson backpack looks very similar to the wcw model but  150 quid
That`s for a variable speed one, which they don`t stock yet anyway  ::). 
  The ones in stock  (like the WCW,one speed setting) are about £100. 
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 08:09:55 pm
facelift also sell the yellow one,s , check there website regards alan
many thanks alan  ;) thats great  ;D more local 2me  :D happy days  ;D
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 08:11:35 pm
just had a look at the williamson backpack looks very similar to the wcw model but  150 quid
That`s for a variable speed one, which they don`t stock yet anyway  ::). 
  The ones in stock  (like the WCW,one speed setting) are about £100. 
Link PLEASE  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on April 02, 2010, 08:13:10 pm
They all come from China!
I have the WCW backpack, and never had an issue with it, with the chargeing problems, make sure the backpack is off then put it on charge even if it shows green still keep it on charge for several hours.
With it not working try checking the fuse for the pump.
They do tend to go now and then.

I have been looking at the same backpack as shurflow, they are also made in China.
I am weighting for an email about how much they can sell me the units for.


Matt
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on April 02, 2010, 08:15:07 pm
I am waiting for them to give me a price per unit for my shop.




Matt
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on April 02, 2010, 08:16:10 pm
puts me off a bit knowing its from china.  I have a mate who got in one of those cheap motorbike imports from China.  Nothing but trouble. 
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 08:19:37 pm
almost everything seems to be made in china these days
i doubt you find a product like the backpack manufactured anywhere else
just checked the fuse looks fine
ill bell them tmr i presume theyll be open
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: G Griffin on April 02, 2010, 08:22:24 pm
PDR,
          Google Williamsons Pumps, do a search for backpack. It`ll bring up the Shurflo but keep going down the page for the other.  

   Matt, I thought Shurflo were American  ???.
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on April 02, 2010, 08:25:03 pm
PDR,
          Google Williamsons Pumps, do a search for backpack. It`ll bring up the Shurflo but keep going down the page for the other.  

   Matt, I thought Shurflo were American  ???.


Shurflo might be american but the backpacks they put their name too are made by a company from China.
I am enquiring about a load of backpacks with a different colour cap.

Matt
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 08:27:39 pm
anyone any more thoughts on problem
battery level fine
connections fine
fuse fine
pump just clicks but wont kick in---is a pump issue
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: G Griffin on April 02, 2010, 08:34:30 pm
PDR,
          Google Williamsons Pumps, do a search for backpack. It`ll bring up the Shurflo but keep going down the page for the other.  

   Matt, I thought Shurflo were American  ???.


Shurflo might be american but the backpacks they put their name too are made by a company from China.
I am enquiring about a load of backpacks with a different colour cap.

Matt
I bet they have the Chinese conical straw hat thing as the cap.
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 08:39:55 pm
many thanks alan  ;)
many thanks G Griffin  ;)
thats great news 4 me  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Fieldsy on April 02, 2010, 08:45:29 pm
My one has a clunk from the pump until i open the flow valve, then it fires up................but it also won't fire up if the connection from backpack to hose is not secure (tight). I have an autostop hozelock connector which will sometimes stick and the pump won't run, as water can't flow. Soon as I give the valve a prod in the connector and connect it back up, its fine. Its probs not your problem, but its best to try all options.

Why not just run a 12v direct to the pump to eliminate any battery probs ??

If it still don't run, could be the pressure switch ??
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: paul rulton on April 02, 2010, 09:54:06 pm
how annoying is that  >:( something so bloody simple  ::)  :P
but sorted now  ;) happy days  ;D
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 02, 2010, 09:58:12 pm
just shows how good this forum is otherwise i would be posting it back tmr and probably be without it for a week

thanks for everyones help
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: gr cleaning solutions on April 02, 2010, 10:28:17 pm
ive ordered my wcw backpack with 17ft pole this week should be getting next week im like a kid at Christmas  ;D
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: The Jester of Wibbly on April 02, 2010, 10:52:57 pm
Hey, this is great.  Maybe it is not a bad buy after all.

Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Fieldsy on April 03, 2010, 01:45:58 am
Glad you got it sorted  ;)
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 03, 2010, 09:00:45 am
cheers for that
wcw should check they work before sending out
would save a load of grief
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Fieldsy on April 03, 2010, 10:34:39 am
yh, they should be straight out of packaging and fit to use...................but luckily enough they are a pretty simple setup and can be modified to run more efficiently  ;)
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Proclean ne on April 03, 2010, 10:24:00 pm
Also got the yellow WCW Back pack been spot on but recently noticed leaking water out at the Base?when any water left in pack and switched off,anybody had this!.(may need to strip it and look)Mine not been chucked about has been looked after prior to this leak.
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Rcs on April 06, 2010, 07:42:59 pm
all sorted now
also good service regarding problem from wcw

i think ill buy another one this week
but may ask them to check prior to sending

all in all great bit of gear once set up right
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: Fieldsy on April 06, 2010, 08:08:47 pm
Would you believe mine packed up today on a job............quick open up with a phillips, blown fuse...pop to costcutters, 3 fuses 99p, back up and running again....lol, and now have spare fuses.  ;)
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: John Hewitt on May 09, 2010, 08:51:53 am
Nearly all these backpacks come from the same factory in China. Doesnt matter what the label says. They are cheap and the electrics can be a bit crude and dodgy but look at the price. Solving any the problems with the backpacks or trolleys is not beyond the scope of anyone with average common sense.
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: elite mike on May 09, 2010, 09:15:23 am
Nearly all these backpacks come from the same factory in China. Doesnt matter what the label says. They are cheap and the electrics can be a bit crude and dodgy but look at the price. Solving any the problems with the backpacks or trolleys is not beyond the scope of anyone with average common sense.

yes but when you buy new goods , you dont expect to be forever fiddling with it

to make it work ::) cheap or expensive
Title: Re: back back problems
Post by: dmlservices on May 09, 2010, 06:42:05 pm
not had a problem with my shurflo back back ,4 years and still going , you get what you pay for i suppose

daz