Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Alun Whyte on March 31, 2010, 03:11:58 pm
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Looking to buy a wfp trolley, initially thought about the Pure Freedom 25L then i stumbled upon a trolley from The Cleaning Warehouse Company has anyone got one of their trolleys if so whats your thoughts or even dealt with that company before.
Any other trolley ideas would be welcome
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at the end of the day a trolley system is just a trolley with a pump and battery.
not slagging them off! think they are v handy.
what im saying is that most trollys are nearly the same - so prob best to go with the best build one.
i would say purefreedom or give x line a go.
guys at xline are v helpful
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Thats the problem u cant tell the build quality lookin at pics on the web and i aint travellin 500 miles to find out its crap
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Thats the problem u cant tell the build quality lookin at pics on the web and i aint travellin 500 miles to find out its crap
x line trolley is prob best but purefreedom is v close second.
ive had both before and i have a x line trolley now.
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Cheers m8 will give em a call ask a few questions
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The build quality question is important. But you also need to consider that you need to work with it day after day.
My second question would be how high do you need to lift the 25 litre can to get it onto the trolley.
With the pure freedom, you only have to lift it a small distance. (http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/images/products/store_thumbs/trolley_colours_new.jpg)
The x-line looks similar (http://xline-systems.co.uk/WebRoot/StoreDaily/Shops/eshop146176/497B/AD1E/5F4D/D821/A404/C0A8/0ADD/C959/Red-Xline-Trolley_0020_White_0020_Background_0020_1_s.jpg)
With the H2 Go trolley, it's rather higher. (http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/components/com_virtuemart/show_image_in_imgtag.php?filename=c07e9c773b82bbdb3ed9d7bbea9927e2.jpg&newxsize=90&newysize=90&fileout=)
The polarbrite trolley is even higher still. (http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/components/com_virtuemart/show_image_in_imgtag.php?filename=e02870b4d9e776afe18fb9a741d79beb.jpg&newxsize=90&newysize=90&fileout=)
Now of you're 6' plus and beefy, this might not be an issue. But you need to think how you might feel about lifting 25 kg cans of water that high all day every day. I personally think that it might get a little wearing.
And for build quality, you just can't beat the pure freedom trolley.
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I see where ur coming from wally, should only be usin the trolley 4 short periods though for some awkward but lucrative commercial work i got, have you heard of that other company i was on about? Seems not a bad deal on the face of it plus free delivery
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purefreedom trolley is the best in my opinion after 2 yrs still going strong built to last and easy to lift in and out of car
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sack truck and build your own
lets face it, a sack truck is designed to move around weights all day long
remove the barrel and battery and its as light as you can get when lifting
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sack trucks look really professional with 25ltr containers strapped to them with bungees if we are professional why on earth would anyone use a sack truck rather than a professional looking purpose built trolley
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Yeah good point some of the trolleys look totally naff wouldnt be seen dead wi some of em take it no one heard of that other company then?
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purefreedom trolley is the best in my opinion after 2 yrs still going strong built to last and easy to lift in and out of car
sack trucks look really professional with 25ltr containers strapped to them with bungees if we are professional why on earth would anyone use a sack truck rather than a professional looking purpose built trolley
yet you use a PF truck
the PF is a sacktruck design trolley with a 25 L container sat on top ( as are all the others )
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i doublt a customer would tell the difference between a PF trolley or a sack truck with pump box and 25 L barrel
both use the same barrels
both have long handles to pull them along
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sack trucks look really professional with 25ltr containers strapped to them with bungees if we are professional why on earth would anyone use a sack truck rather than a professional looking purpose built trolley
So there's no doubt about it, is there?
It's got to be either Pure Freedom or X-line.
The others look like a school design project that never quite got finished.
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sack trucks look really professional with 25ltr containers strapped to them with bungees if we are professional why on earth would anyone use a sack truck rather than a professional looking purpose built trolley
So there's no doubt about it, is there?
It's got to be either Pure Freedom or X-line.
The others look like a school design project that never quite got finished.
the Pure Freedom and X-line ( infact the others do aswell ) both look like a sack truck with a foldable handle ( which the customer will not see as you will be using it ) and a box with the pump and battery in which the 25 L barrel sits on
lets not kid ourselves here
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something made along time before PF ( and the like ) thought of the idea
http://diy*waterfed*pole.co.uk/sack.JPG
remove the 2 * to see the pic
edit, just to point out, the paint wasnt the finished colour, before someone replies " the metal straps look crap because they are not the same colour "
that was just a coat of red lead paint
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I see your point Matt however do u think there would be much savings to be made by sourcing all the parts and building it yourself given the time etc that would cost.
Any ideas where to get spare 25L barrels?
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sack trucks look really professional with 25ltr containers strapped to them with bungees if we are professional why on earth would anyone use a sack truck rather than a professional looking purpose built trolley
So there's no doubt about it, is there?
It's got to be either Pure Freedom or X-line.
The others look like a school design project that never quite got finished.
the Pure Freedom and X-line ( infact the others do aswell ) both look like a sack truck with a foldable handle ( which the customer will not see as you will be using it ) and a box with the pump and battery in which the 25 L barrel sits on
lets not kid ourselves here
I cannot possibly agree with that.
I've had LOADS of customers look at my business name (Wally the Window Washer) and look at my trolley (Pure Freedom) and ask me if I'm working a franchise. It's the name plus the quality of the equipment that gives that impression.
I'm sure that a can bungeed onto a sack truck wouldn't create the same impression no matter what the name.
No. People CAN recognise quality.
I quite understand that any trolley will do the same job - and probably with very similar reliability - and for about half the price. I'm seriously considering making a trolley system for myself. But quality of design, materials and construction counts for a lot.
That's why Mercs are a little more expensive than other cars - and why people look up to them.
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I see your point Matt however do u think there would be much savings to be made by sourcing all the parts and building it yourself given the time etc that would cost.
Any ideas where to get spare 25L barrels?
build it when its raining and your not working ( unless you work in all rain ) then your time isnt going to cost you money
as for 25 L barrels, your local mechanical car washs will have them, they have soap delivered in them, some will be happy for you to take them away for free ( just ask around them ) , give them a rinse and job done
if you want to buy them, cleantech used to sell them for 5 quid a pop
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Wally you put a j.peg of our mark 1 up, so here is a link to our mark2! http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_20_24
as goes the lifting bit the only person that has ever commented on this is you at windex, others comment on the fact that the container is snug in a cage! but each to their own, and variety is good.
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I couldn't justify spending £500+ on a trolley so I went for one of those 35 litre ones similar to the one in a recent post.Just over £200.I know people will say buying cheaper is false economy but time will tell.There seems to be a fair few people happy with them.The only drawback I can see is the fact you have to fill the barrel and not just switch over.
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Is this the one you mean, Craig 72?
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:-_4NcSQ8Y_uwSM:http://www.omnipole.com/35%2520litre%2520side%2520view%2520small.jpg)
I don't know about the quality, but it really looks the part.
If I had one I'd be very inclined to get my name and phone number sign written on the front. That'd make it look even better.
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ill just throw this idea in - purefreedom 50 litre trolley.
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all aluminium and stainless, no rust. same pump, varistream digital, 30 meter microbore, twin pole carriers, 25 or 50 litres, nearly 4 years on the clock, 85 amp hr battery. pump box just unhooks if you need it for van mount
I have had loads of people stop to admire this trolley, and several asked if they could take photos.
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Hmmm, pesky trolley spotters :-\.
Nice job though Dai.
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Is this the one you mean, Craig 72?
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:-_4NcSQ8Y_uwSM:http://www.omnipole.com/35%2520litre%2520side%2520view%2520small.jpg)
I don't know about the quality, but it really looks the part.
If I had one I'd be very inclined to get my name and phone number sign written on the front. That'd make it look even better.
Yeah thats the one Wally,or very similar.That's an excellent idea about the writing on the back.I was umming and ahhing about the fact that it's cheapish but I just couldn't afford more frankly.Hopefully it will last me a while.
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all aluminium and stainless, no rust. same pump, varistream digital, 30 meter microbore, twin pole carriers, 25 or 50 litres, nearly 4 years on the clock, 85 amp hr battery. pump box just unhooks if you need it for van mount
I have had loads of people stop to admire this trolley, and several asked if they could take photos.
I love it.
And here's what I love about it:
* Easy to get the barrel in and out of.
* Place to carry not only one, but two poles.
* Hose reel on board.
* Varistream well out of harm's way - (Cannot get damaged by anything less than nuclear strike!)
If you took that design brief to a skilled designer/manufacturer, you'd have a world-beating product there.
Maybe you should get a Trevor Bayliss or a James Dyson interested - or even take it to a company like Numatic who are very big in cleaning machines.
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and he recycled his ladders if my memory serves me correct
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if you can make a good looking trolley you can save yourself a few quid 8)
£500 plus for a trolley is just a mornings work for some on this forum ::) ;D
the best trolleys on the market are pure freedom and x-line
ive got a pure freedom and what i have done is taken their logo off the front and put my business name and phone numbers on ;)
Brett.
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I am with matt on this one,Its just a glorified sack truck, Now i detest DIY,but I got a job today which best suited my backpack. I have not used it since mid December, but charged it up yesterday. Well it would not work, but i remembered reading on here about problems with wires coming off the battery,so off i went to the van and took it apart and yes the negative spade connector was off.but as i pulled top off the backpack i.e the yellow bit which holds the water, the little hose came off the nozzle in bottom of yellow bit.well hose is that short i had no chance of putting it on,Tried and tried and ended up snapping the plastic connector nozzle in base of yellow tank.So I have thought sod it,I am going to use all the gubbins from backpack,get a sack truck and make a trolley capable of carrying 2x 25 litre drums. but as an afterthought i am wondering about using a fishing trolley as someone once suggested on here,does anyone think they will be strong enough?