Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jason Williscroft on March 27, 2010, 09:11:54 am
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Hi guys
I am looking at buying a machine that hasnt got an onboard heater which i have always been use to.
I do like the heat option and wondered if someone could recommend an inline heater? do they work well? are they easy to set up? do you need the right one to match a specific machine? do you lose pressure?
Thank you!! :D
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Hi Jason
I have a Steam mate from Ashbys. works to a max pressure of 400 psi.
Great bit of kit with a thermostat on it and light to show you when up to heat.
Cost around £700 but worth the money the first unit i purchased from another company for half the price was soon returned for a refund as it kept dumping water all over the floor and had not heat setting control on it.
Ashbys aftercare very good to
David
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Jason
I have the Airflex turbo triple vac,from Matt at Cleansmart.I use a CFR in line heater with mine.The heater was from my original CFR pro 400.
I am really pleased with my Airflex and I know Matt now has an in line heater as an extra to go with the Airflex.
Saw it at Carpex, lots of people trying it out,seemed to be a popular demo
Before I had my Airflex I spent a morning with Matt trying it out.Give him a ring go and try it,nothing to loose ;)
Steve
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thanks guys - so there is the Ashbys one, the Cleansmart Magma, the CFR one and i know Prochem do one - are there any others?
i want to cost in the price of one before i buy a machine without a heater. I am thinking as pumps dont like hot water, an inline heater is the way to go for a porty?!
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One other one I know of but know nothing about.
http://www.wcsuk.com/acatalog/Heating-Elements.html
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woodbridge do one very good £260 in line very hot :o like steam
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That was the one I was thinking of, bottom of the page.
http://www.wcsuk.com/acatalog/Woodbridge_Machines.html
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thanks again - i will investigate!!
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Ive got an ashby 2000watt one but although it heats water I cannot say it gives steam
So I would test drive any inline heater first
Remember I amtalking the 2000 watt one not the 3000 watt
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Spoke to Woodbridge about there £260 inline heater i told him i already had the Prochem Heat And Run he said the £260 one wouldnt be any better than my Prochem one and told me i would be better with the £460 heater instead.I tried my heat and run with my Powerflight for extra heat but it wouldnt work at all the water was already to hot from my Powerflight by the time it reached the heat and run think they have a thermostat at 70degrees.I can put cold water in my powermax after a couple of minutes the water gets realy hot but it only last for about 30 seconds thats all you get with inline heaters short burst of heat.
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ok - so are inline heaters not a constant source of heated water on demand?
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Its best if water is hot to start with.
My advise is test for an hour before buying or get tripple money back guarantee
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What you could do is warm the water up through the inline and back into the water tank making it 'warm' using an open ended connector, this could be flowing through whilst you are pre vacuuming and aggitating then add your hose to it and then wand and you have water pre heated.
I had a go with an Ashbys v2 and it was very hot but not straight away, I'd like to see Matt's as it has 2 chambers therefore heating more water quickly but ideally you need the 2 side by side, if anyone who is coming to the CCDO on the 11th could bring their ninja or V2 I know Matt at Cleansmart will be there we could have a demonstration.
Shaun
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Matts machine at CARPEX was delivering very hot water and the machine was in constant use - if someone wasnt trying the machine themselves then Matt had his finger on the trigger. Impressive.
But it needs a thermostst.
I have a twin chamber twin switch by Mytee (I think). I can have full heat or half heat - which I like cooler heat for suites.
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Here's a pre-heater. ;D
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Water-Heater-for-Carpet-Cleaning-Machine_W0QQitemZ250602666802QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item3a59153b32
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I guess it depends on psi and flow, I noticed when I saw my mates ninja they have a tap to adjust the flow as well as adjusting the psi.
Matt did say to me that at 200psi the hx will steam all day.
Shaun
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You wont get constant hot water from a inline heater if the water is not at least warm in the first place even using my Powerflight the water isnt constantly hot all the time especially if the water is cold in the first place.
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What you could do is warm the water up through the inline and back into the water tank making it 'warm' using an open ended connector, this could be flowing through whilst you are pre vacuuming and aggitating then add your hose to it and then wand and you have water pre heated.
I had a go with an Ashbys v2 and it was very hot but not straight away, I'd like to see Matt's as it has 2 chambers therefore heating more water quickly but ideally you need the 2 side by side, if anyone who is coming to the CCDO on the 11th could bring their ninja or V2 I know Matt at Cleansmart will be there we could have a demonstration.
Shaun
Yep thatswhat I do in rentals but its a pain having to wait sometimes
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Ninja in tank heater set at temperature that is fine for the pump to handle then buit in v2 steam mate running 400psi very hot water but as Shaun pointed out flow makes a differance 200psi steam 2 jet wand.
Cheers Tony