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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: MNWC on March 24, 2010, 04:20:25 pm
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How much and how long would it take you ??
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i would charge £1 a window, about £30
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70-80 quid
but thats trad. if your using reach & wash you could go a bit cheaper
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wfp, £50 depending on where it is really. but definatly no more than two hours as a first clean
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20 for half hours work,with my pole
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Hi,
£45.00 traditionial.
Kevin WINDOLENE.
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yea id go for £20. its a big house but not too many windows
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£35 - £40 including the veluxe if WFP.
Maybe more for first clean.
I tend to go up a bit on windows like that because I reckon that if anyone else is going to compete for the job, they will more than likely be cleaning the traditional way and such windows can be time consuming if cleaned like that. I would also make a point of including the veluxe and emphasising it because most trad cleaners wouldn't bother with it. Most of the trad cleaners I've met might have a trad pole, but not of enough length to do the veluxe.
Bear in mind that this one could be a bit of a pain if they go out and leave any windows open as you cant push them shut from the ground very easily.
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So let me get this right, if I'm WFP it would be half hour clean, at 20 quid. Where as if I'm trad it would take twice as long, so 20 quid would be a rubbish price?
So is price set by which method you use? Is that good business sense? Or have I missed the point?
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1st clean £70/ £80.... :-\ monthly £48 eom £55 45mins tops ;)
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no mate i am wfp,
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I'm confused, let's say I've got a custy that takes 15 mins trad, she costs 10 quid. Then if I swap to WFP and this "could" make me faster, do I charge less or what? ???
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its madness how we all quote different prices. im in s e london and my quote is the cheapest. i cant see it taking more than 20 mins half hour tops wfp. id feel a con man charging more for this
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marcus what did you charge them for this job mate?
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So what would you charge then Cleeen?
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id quote a score.
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What would you charge if you were trad? The same?
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yea prob the same. not being funny but the amount of shiners out and about someone would prob do it for a tenner. i have been canvassing lately in blackheath which is a posh area and there are w/c's charging £10-15 pound for houses like this. too much competition now
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sorry im wfp ;D
cleen, think u need 2up ur prices m8 :o esp where u r ;) im gettin jobs like that 4 that price ;D
i guess it helps 2bein quite well known as well ::)
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I'd first ask how regular they wanted the Job done, then I would work on a price and adjust accordingly, if it was a regular (6 weekly for me) then £50 wfp
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Two very good points from both of you, but if you see what I'm trying to say, the reason prices stay low, is because some guys price on method and not buy what the job is really worth.
To make my point, if either of you fancy a holiday over here in sunny Germany, give me a call and you can clean all my custies for a month at those prices with your WFP kit. I'll make enough to sod off on my hols at the same time ;D
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29 windows roughly, so about £40 every 8 weeks
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Two very good points from both of you, but if you see what I'm trying to say, the reason prices stay low, is because some guys price on method and not buy what the job is really worth.
To make my point, if either of you fancy a holiday over here in sunny Germany, give me a call and you can clean all my custies for a month at those prices with your WFP kit. I'll make enough to sod off on my hols at the same time ;D
LOL ;D
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hitman whats your average price you have then round your way?? im hitting some posh areas and they just dont want to pay the money round here.
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£70
Go in high and don't negotiate.
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hitman whats your average price you have then round your way?? im hitting some posh areas and they just dont want to pay the money round here.
ave is £30/£40 i think ??? picked 2up recently similar size 2the 1 in the pic....
1of them is monthly @ £45 ;D the other is £55 eom 8) thats how im buildin my round... love it :-* :-*
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hitman whats your average price you have then round your way?? im hitting some posh areas and they just dont want to pay the money round here.
ave is £30/£40 i think ??? picked 2up recently similar size 2the 1 in the pic....
1of them is monthly @ £45 ;D the other is £55 eom 8) theat how im buildin my round... love it :-* :-*
top respect to you hitman. you have an elite round there then by the sounds of it. just out of interest how long has it took to build that up
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Dont you effectively price yourself out of a healthy proportion of the market with a combination. One or the other perhaps, but both combined?
No. If you confidently quote a high price, the customer will not argue, they will just accept it. People are prepared to pay for good quality clean, but only if you seem confident and look like you know what you're doing.
If you are even the slightest bit hesitant, they will start to try and talk you down. You have to not give them the option.
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£35 EVERY 6 WEEKS
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top respect to you hitman. you have an elite round there then by the sounds of it. just out of interest how long has it took to build that up
not there yet m8, will b sorted with in the next 4/5 months ;) cant bloody wait ;D
i only enjoy cleaning houses i like, dont know y ??? just do ;D but 4me its a nice way 2 work &
it works well ;D
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I would charge £45-50 trad
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I can't beleive some are saying it's 20 mins work tops!
Yeah, I could wip round WFP in 20 mins but I wouldn't be doing a very good job.
I would charge £55 every 8 weeks and take my time doing it properly.
Andy
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I can't beleive some are saying it's 20 mins work tops!
Yeah, I could wip round WFP in 20 mins but I wouldn't be doing a very good job.
I would charge £55 every 8 weeks and take my time doing it properly.
Andy
maybe not on a first clean 20 mins but cleans after first wouldnt take much longer than 20 mins. why how long would it take you then??
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C & B check my proflie, u will c where i am ;D i dont hide ;D
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i would charge £75 first clean if it realy dirty if not i would charge the normal mth fee, £45 mthly or £55 every 2mths
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i would charge £75 first clean if it realy dirty if not i would charge the normal mth fee, £45 mthly or £55 every 2mths
c how many more times s.w.c great minds do think a like ;D 8)
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well it does make sense.
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£40 every 6 weeks
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This thing about quoting by method.
On jobs that have plain glass with larger panes, I tend to quote the same regardless of method. However, with Georgian or leads, the time differential increases greatly - especially on a hot day. IMO a Georgian or leaded job can take twice as long - perhaps more - than WFP. With plain glass, the differential is usually less - though it does depend what type of job it is. When I first switched to WFP, some jobs I had with those sort of windows went from being a fairly OK price or maybe even a not very good price to a decently priced job. A lot depends on property layout though. I reckon (with WFP) a 40 minute plod on the job pictured but if I pushed myself, sure I could do it in 20 minutes. I would feel happier taking 40 minutes though. With trad, I don't reckon I would do it in under an hour - especially as I'm out of practice now.
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£40 every 6 weeks
Good. Sounds like I was thereabouts with my £35 - £40 then. Does that include the veluxe window Marcus?
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£50 inc' garage windows. ;) wfp
If regular i.e. 6/8 weekly maybe £45
I reckon to do it properly wfp, pulling up to driving off 1 hour.
I do tons of georgian sash windows ;)
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No just the house windows ;D
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£40 every 6 weeks
a fair price on a 6 weekly clean :)
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Id base my quote on £1.50 per window trade around £40 but i would be tempted to add on an extra £5 so id quote for trade £45.
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£40 every 6 weeks
Bang on I reckon as well.. 8)
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Those windows would be £2-£3 each I'd say £60 maybe more depending on access, could go up to £90ish. You would probably end up having to do them every 8 weeks as the price would be too much for a higher frequency. I reckon under an hours work by pole if done properly. I'd like to see someone do it in 20 mins for £20.
Simon.
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20 quid 25 max and at that i'd feel a con man. Baffles me how some of you guys can get the money you do it really does
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Based on the windows in view and they look reasonably clean already I would say £35 on a 5 weekly clean (house only). Good access so could work quite fast (wfp).
However, I'm wondering if there are some windows not showing in the two photos. If this is correct then the price would have to increase to allow.
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£35.00 six weekly in tunbridge wells , i imagine the high prices quoted on here are by guys that have full rounds , no problem with high prices by the way , 3 man team 15 minutes max to complete regards alan
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bear in mind the fluctuation in prices is down to the areas we live in, its not that certain people are out to rip off, its just supply and demand.
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£40 - £50 wfp approx 45 mins
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there is no point in asking other window cleaners what they would charge the price has got to be up to you, what are you wanting to earn a hour window cleaning.if you are trad then apart from a bit of petrol thats about all your oveheads covered , so when you set a price for a job make sure your happy with it its not all about getting as much money as you can its only cleaning windows.
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£40 - £50 wfp approx 45 mins
you a lawyer?
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15 to 20 max .in the valleys
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Those windows would be £2-£3 each I'd say £60 maybe more depending on access, could go up to £90ish. You would probably end up having to do them every 8 weeks as the price would be too much for a higher frequency. I reckon under an hours work by pole if done properly. I'd like to see someone do it in 20 mins for £20.
Simon.
so you would charge up to £90 for an hours work :o no way would they pay that.I would price £25-£30,but am still learning :-\
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£40 every 6 weeks
i was thinking about 40 -50 you probably done right there
my price is trad , but wfp itd be the same no matter what the speed difference
they are pvc windows? they look it
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i got a house few weeks back now 92 windys £200 every 6 weeks ;)
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Those windows would be £2-£3 each I'd say £60 maybe more depending on access, could go up to £90ish. You would probably end up having to do them every 8 weeks as the price would be too much for a higher frequency. I reckon under an hours work by pole if done properly. I'd like to see someone do it in 20 mins for £20.
Simon.
so you would charge up to £90 for an hours work :o no way would they pay that.I would price £25-£30,but am still learning :-\
I would probably be closer to £60, however this kind of work demands a premium. Sash windows are fussy trad or wfp. A job like this as well would normally be in and out and if you have a bad outside base price your not going to want to do the in's. I have a job about 3 times bigger in and out with sash windows priced at £350.00. If you live in a house like that chances are you can afford to have the windows done properly. However as I said maybe the frequency would need to be lengthened.
Simon.
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20 quid 25 max and at that i'd feel a con man. Baffles me how some of you guys can get the money you do it really does
I see you are in Scotland.
I'm in southeast England.
I reckon at least some of the price differences are regional. £35 - £40 is about right for a job like that by WFP down here IMO. There's no doubt that some of the living costs get higher as you get further south - especially private renting and mortgage costs due to higher house prices. Mind you, you could also get such a quotation refused down here. I suppose where someone is with their business is also an issue. If I were to get refused on two thirds of my quotations but get the other third I would feel OK about that whereas that would not have been the case when I had less work.
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i got a house few weeks back now 92 windys £200 every 6 weeks ;)
2 ton hitster tidy 8) 8)
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20 quid 25 max and at that i'd feel a con man. Baffles me how some of you guys can get the money you do it really does
I see you are in Scotland.
I'm in southeast England.
I reckon at least some of the price differences are regional. £35 - £40 is about right for a job like that by WFP down here IMO. There's no doubt that some of the living costs get higher as you get further south - especially private renting and mortgage costs due to higher house prices. Mind you, you could also get such a quotation refused down here. I suppose where someone is with their business is also an issue. If I were to get refused on two thirds of my quotations but get the other third I would feel OK about that whereas that would not have been the case when I had less work.
im in the southeast too and i tell u what id reckon id feel each time i did that id come in too low at 50 . trad
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80 quid
i dont need the work, so i can afford to price high, a bit of selling yourself and your quids in
if they can afford to live in a house like that, they can afford to spread some wealth my way ;)
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50.00 trad take me just over an hour
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No just the house windows ;D
I suspect a bit of missleading going on. one of your pics clearly shows the annex/rear of garage windows have just been cleaned, ;)
I wont say how much I would charge as looking at the pictures there are sides to the house not on show, no telling what may be hidden (might even be a 60 foot conny) ;D
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evryone normally says pound a window. you lot see big house and start multiplying like no business. yes i think 20 quid is a nice fair and decent price and would take me about 35 minutes.
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evryone normally says pound a window. you lot see big house and start multiplying like no business. yes i think 20 quid is a nice fair and decent price and would take me about 35 minutes.
The owners would expect to be paying alot more than £20 thats worth £45 all day long whether wfp or trade they know they have a massive house and they know it will cost.I have a barn conversion i do a lot easier thatn this £27 every 5 weeks.
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Id base my quote on £1.50 per window trade around £40 but i would be tempted to add on an extra £5 so id quote for trade £45.
By the way i live in rural suffolk.
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I would have said £30 wfp,
but i am guilty of under-pricing by 25% at times
so maybe £40 then, i call 5 weekly
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£35max where i live
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wfp i reckon about 45 min to set up clean and pack up. Around £35 seems OK to me. £40 would be good.
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Why is everyone scared to put in a high price for jobs like these.....there georgian...there a pain in the arse trad or not...more so trad,,but still a pain.
Id go round with the woman comment on how lovely her house is how beautiful her garden looks. Tell her how glad you are that she contacted you cos she obviously takes pride in her home and garden etc and you take pride in your work of cleaning windows, let her know that you are reliable and friendly and any one that works for you takes the same pride in there work and are equally as respectable and friendly.
Ask her,,,Have you cleaned them yourself before cos if she has she will know how difficult they are to clean and she wont then expect us to do it for peanuts.
Id then charge £60-£80 depending on a few more factors eg distance.
Look for her reaction and its not difficult to read what shes thinking. Remember you can always come down in price but never go up..... if she says 'great thats fantastic, i thought it would be alot more than that'.... then you got the price wrong.
If she umms and arrrs and cringes her face slightly and says...'ooooh its a bit pricey...but...i really need them doing..... ok then.' Then your bang on!
So what if she hits the roof and says no.... wait for her to calm down and explain why...and if she still says no then ask her what price would she be happy with youll be amazed at how little they will drop the price...most of the time alot less than if u dropped it cos you feel bad and are desperate.
Its happened to me loads.
And now i never just put a note through the door with a quote..i will always arrange to see them in person. The chance of you getting the job increases massively.
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good advice jdemarco
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20 quid 25 max and at that i'd feel a con man. Baffles me how some of you guys can get the money you do it really does
In a lot of the cases they dont - these are their forum prices! Despite what they say on here most would charge a maximum of 50% of what they have quoted ;)
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£25-£30 it would need to be regular and reliable.
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20 quid 25 max and at that i'd feel a con man. Baffles me how some of you guys can get the money you do it really does
In a lot of the cases they dont - these are their forum prices! Despite what they say on here most would charge a maximum of 50% of what they have quoted ;)
I'd quote £50 and there's no way I'd do it for less; and I'd charge more if I had to travel any more than four or five miles. In fact I do less for more.
This morning my first job was a £45 one that took about 40 minutes; I've been cleaning this property for about four years now. I've many jobs £30+ (three with indoor swimming pools, some with stables, underfloor heating, granite or marble kitchen work tops) - my biggest domestic job is £150 twice a year - and these sort of people should have the money to fork out for £50+ on their window cleaning. They probably spend more a month on fresh flowers for their house.
And not so long ago, a carpet fitter recently fitted a carpet in Wor Little Un's bedroom; it took him about 40 minutes and he charged £50 and I thought that was a fair price for the fitting.
Jdemarco gave some good advice; what he's basically saying is that the customer pays for the tradesman, not the job.
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20 quid 25 max and at that i'd feel a con man. Baffles me how some of you guys can get the money you do it really does
In a lot of the cases they dont - these are their forum prices! Despite what they say on here most would charge a maximum of 50% of what they have quoted ;)
I understand what you mean...like when your watching who wants to be a millionaire and think that you can do better or critising a footballer cos he fluffs a shot up...like you can do better.
When your out there on a job pricing up and the pressures on its not easy to get a good price usually because you tell yourself you wont get it before you even tell them the price..you hear the word no sometimes before you knock on the door, its alot of psycology...your toughest customer is you if you change your thinking you will get alot more yes's than no's
But the fact is we can get those prices it doesnt happen all the time but some of the time it does.
If you dont think you can get them, then you wont...ever! Untill you think you can or you know that you can..and you will
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And now i never just put a note through the door with a quote..i will always arrange to see them in person. The chance of you getting the job increases massively.
It took me a while to start realising that but I reckon you are bang on with that. Not sure that I ould feel comfortable with £60 - £80 though. Something that I've done in the past (this may be a bit naughty) :) , is to quote for first clean and if it's clear that it's not going to happen, I've then mentioned that the price for first clean is generally higher but that regular maintenance cleans would be a bit less. That way, everyone saves face. The customer doesn't think that they've beaten down the price (because the first quote was just for first clean anyway) and you know that you've still got a regular customer for a pretty decent price.
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And now i never just put a note through the door with a quote..i will always arrange to see them in person. The chance of you getting the job increases massively.
It took me a while to start realising that but I reckon you are bang on with that. Not sure that I ould feel comfortable with £60 - £80 though. Something that I've done in the past (this may be a bit naughty) :) , is to quote for first clean and if it's clear that it's not going to happen, I've then mentioned that the price for first clean is generally higher but that regular maintenance cleans would be a bit less. That way, everyone saves face. The customer doesn't think that they've beaten down the price (because the first quote was just for first clean anyway) and you know that you've still got a regular customer for a pretty decent price.
Yeh thats great mate, ive done that loads.
It takes some quick thinking on your part but its the little change in direction like that that goes a long way.
Fantastic tip Paul
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I'm trad, most work bungalow's,i'd say between £35/ £40,
After 1st clean you'll know how long it'll take,say 1st clean £55/£60,
Then give in a quote,based on how long it took you
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£90.00
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