Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jasonl on March 19, 2010, 09:08:04 pm
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I have a car to remove the odour from . The last one I did I heated the car to open the pores etc then thermally fogged it , then put the car in the shade to cool it down.
The car has been cleaned several times already. It is only 3 years old with 15k on the clock.
Does anybody have any other ideas?
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ozone jennie, would that do the trick?, mini one obviously
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I am a bit worried about rubber in the door seals etc with an ozone generator.
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didn't no about the rubber thing jase, what effect does it have on rubber?
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Apparently the ozone could perish it, I am trying to find out if it is real rubber on door seals etc in a car.
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suppose you could take them off, then use masking tape on the doors to seal in the ozone. i am guessing here though jase.
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Good idea , I think I will go for an ionizer instead.
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Does anybody have any other ideas?
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The technique for smoke and soot removal including odor on leather can be applied to any material.
The smoke odor is encased in sticky tar like substance and need a “prep” to degrease it in conjunction with a “smoke booster”.
Thereafter these sticky residues are clean off and rinse away.
Leather can smells better than pre-smoke contaminated condition.
Without physical contact any other attempt is futile.
Roger Koh
IICRC #942
Master Fire & Smoke Restorer
Since 1973
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roger
i'm no expert and forgive me for questioning a master fire and flood thingy that you are but surely the difference between smoke penatrating through leather and through material is miles apart, the smoke would go through material and into the foam where as it would struggle to if the seat was leather. for instance i could blow smoke through a material seat till it came out the other side whereas i couldn't if it was a leather seat, so surely you'd need to clean the foam to get the smell out on a material seat. making your way a complete waste of time.
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Also Roger , how could I physically clean the foam on the underside of the seats, clean the wires and cables under the dash, clean the air vents?
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What kind of cigarettes has the smoke come from?
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capsten full strength, takes me back that does. think i was 8 or 9. ;D
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I have 3 very good deodorizors in my van if you want to get rid of the smell, one kills feces problems :o you can borrow them if you like.
Shaun
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If its just tobacco , our system would be overkill. and far too expensive.
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I have 3 very good deodorizors in my van if you want to get rid of the smell, one kills feces problems :o you can borrow them if you like.
Shaun
That 9d9 would be a bit too strong, would be good for a laugh though as the car belongs to my wifes first husbands new wife ;D
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roger
i'm no expert and forgive me for questioning a master fire and flood thingy that you are but surely the difference between smoke penatrating through leather and through material is miles apart, the smoke would go through material and into the foam where as it would struggle to if the seat was leather. for instance i could blow smoke through a material seat till it came out the other side whereas i couldn't if it was a leather seat, so surely you'd need to clean the foam to get the smell out on a material seat. making your way a complete waste of time.
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I agree that leather surface and other car interior surfaces are miles apart, including the vents where the air circulates.
Without a surface contact with compressed air, vacuuming or chemical sponges for removal it can be a struggle.
If cleaning is base on cleaning science, result is predictable.
Otherwise it can be a futile effort.
Roger Koh
Master Textile Cleaner – IICRC #942
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Poison pen letter ;D
Have you tried exhaust through air con apparently can kill anything :o
Shaun
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Also Roger , how could I physically clean the foam on the underside of the seats, clean the wires and cables under the dash, clean the air vents?
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If there is no physical contact, the smell will still be there!
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roger
are you saying an ozone generator does not get rid of the smell of smoke?, period?
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roger
are you saying an ozone generator does not get rid of the smell of smoke?, period?
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Ozone is 03
An ozone generator is part of the tool of the trade for Smoke and Fire Restorer.
Need to know the science behind how it works to appreciate it.
Not all smoke decontamination is the same.
There are many other factors to determine the severity of smoke damages.
You may need a combination of all available tools of the trade for these kind of job.
There is also a physiological side to the problem.
Who is to argue with the customer when they say the smell is still there - "Heighten Awareness"?
Roger Koh
Leather Doctor®
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you say its part of the tools of the trade yet you said you don't need it, just clean the material you said,
no wonder the customer can still smell it if thats all you do, maybe you should of said, clean the material like leather but then use an o3 machine to get rid of any deep penatrating odours, would that not of been a better answer roger.
also if its part of the tools of the trade, and you say that smoke can not be rid of without physical force then why is it part of the tools of the trade?
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you say its part of the tools of the trade yet you said you don't need it, just clean the material you said,
no wonder the customer can still smell it if thats all you do, maybe you should of said, clean the material like leather but then use an o3 machine to get rid of any deep penatrating odours, would that not of been a better answer roger.
also if its part of the tools of the trade, and you say that smoke can not be rid of without physical force then why is it part of the tools of the trade?
It is obvious Derek that in many situations it is not viable or possible to physically clean a smoke damaged item, that is why we use Ozone or ionizer machines. I will carry out the fogging first , then move on to the Ionizer , the car I now know has been valetted 3 times!
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you say its part of the tools of the trade yet you said you don't need it, just clean the material you said,
no wonder the customer can still smell it if thats all you do, maybe you should of said, clean the material like leather but then use an o3 machine to get rid of any deep penatrating odours, would that not of been a better answer roger.
also if its part of the tools of the trade, and you say that smoke can not be rid of without physical force then why is it part of the tools of the trade?
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It would be a mistake, check my post if I did say this “it’s part of the tools of the trade yet you said you don't need it”.
“Heighten Awareness” in this case means that the customer may still smell in their head not necessary through their olfactory
organ.
A physical contact may not mean a “physical force” it includes that products used have to come in contact with chemical reaction of penetration, lubrication and suspension.