Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: paul rulton on March 10, 2010, 10:19:31 pm
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ive been cleaning windows since 1989/90. i was trad up until 4months ago.
now dont get me wrong wfp does do a fantastic job & its way faster than trad,
so with out sayin the money is better to.
but for me now there is something missing, & today i realised what it was.
i really miss the trad! after all these years on the windows im now not enjoying it.
before wfp there was a skill involved, now anyone could do it!
& for me that has just taken everything away from it.
the reason i turned to wfp was because i could no longer do ladder work due to back surgery,
either that or sell up. & i didnt want that. just wanted to know if i was alone on this or if any
of you guys felt the same????
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I have been going about 4 years and use wfp when safety dictates. I still trad most houses and am happy doing it this way.
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100% wfp all my custys love it, and never want the old way back, thats the truth
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most ov my works trad though wfp is an excellent
tool n a crackin bit ov kit i agree m8 i jus lv the trad ;D ;D ;D
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really miss the trad :'( if it wernt 4my back i would still b doin it..... GUTTED!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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i feel 4 u buddy was wfp most ov morning
i jus ad to get on me ladder so laddered all afternoon
felt grrrrrr8
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u lucky sod :-[
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n im on it all day 2moro ye haw 8) 8) 8) 8)
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i still trad downstairs. i prefer it and enjoy doing it. i do see the point that getting good with a squegee was a learning curve, older w/cleaners had respect because they had honed their skills. now its all about how much your system cost. people looking down thier noses at trad or homebuilt systems just because they spend 15k. ever since this forum started i have always been keen on helping new people but now most of the time i cant be bothered. i have seen posts from members having digs at trad, bragging about thier systems then asking for help pricing a basic job. some have no respect for people who have done this job for years.
at the end of the day its what tool is suitable for the job you are doing. wfp is just another tool in the van
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no that is the truerest statement iv
heard for a while , get that man a cigar !!!!!!
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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im 100% trad and have been for 16 years!some days i love it and other days i think to myself "this would be so much easier with wfp!!!"
also i have problems with my right knee sometimes.i dont think itll hold up another 16 years on the ladders! ::)
i do seem to have this fear that ill lose loads of custys when i changeover to wfp! ::)
its probably all in my head!! ::) ::)
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im 100% trad and have been for 16 years!some days i love it and other days i think to myself "this would be so much easier with wfp!!!"
also i have problems with my right knee sometimes.i dont think itll hold up another 16 years on the ladders! ::)
i do seem to have this fear that ill lose loads of custys when i changeover to wfp! ::)
its probably all in my head!! ::) ::)
it will be hard m8 trust me first cleans r murder
but frames will look better etc n youl be knackered !!!! ;D ;D ;D
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if my back was ok i would never have changed 2wfp. TRADMAN ;D oh yer! ;) all day long baby ;D
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wot with yr back lol
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wot with yr back lol
fell off my ladder nearly 4years ago & prolapsed 3discs :o in hospital next friday
2ave 7injections in my spine :o :o :o :'(
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I have been wfp for 5 months prior to that i was 25 years trad, 95% of my round is now wfp. After all these years it feels like a bloody holiday now going to work, and i look forward to it a lot more, saying that I do enjoy the wee bit trad i have left it keeps my skills ticking over.
Hand on heart though wfp has been a blessing for me, you could say i'm a born again window cleaner having changed over and gotten through one of the worst winters in years i'm looking forward to the months ahead.
By the way Dazmond i felt like you regarding losing customers but i'm totally confident about my working methods and the results and i haven't lost a single one.
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only kidding u up m8 , u gotta take it
easy yr getting on now n youve only got 1 back
av u tried a corset m8 ;)
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not allowed ??? goin 2 bed now fella, my diazepam is well kickin in ;) laters m8
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wfp is not just a tool for in the van, to me thats just trad guys covering their ar*%$ or they are losing work to us, whats the point going wfp, if you are a true wfp cleaner like me you never need trad again except insides, fact,
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not allowed ??? goin 2 bed now fella, my diazepam is well kickin in ;) laters m8
catch u 2moz bruv take it easy
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wfp is not just a tool for in the van, to me thats just trad guys covering their ar*%$ or they are losing work to us, whats the point going wfp, if you are a true wfp cleaner like me you never need trad again except insides, fact,
jo sum of us trad guys u no njoy it
n before wfp came around it was most probably ow u earned yr money
dont knock it back in the time wen it was all mop
n scrim , i bet most wc were saying them blade things , they'll
never take off lol ;D ;D FACT !!!!!
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wfp is not just a tool for in the van, to me thats just trad guys covering their ar*%$ or they are losing work to us, whats the point going wfp, if you are a true wfp cleaner like me you never need trad again except insides, fact,
jo not at all mate, both methods are tools of the trade and you have to be good at both, unless you only do outsides and turn down down work where wfp isnt practical
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stu the only place i have never found practical is insides ;D i do shop fronts including signs pubs houses everything wfp i just cant understand why some folk say its only a tool in the van, when it can be used anytime anywhere,
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wfp is not just a tool for in the van, to me thats just trad guys covering their ar*%$ or they are losing work to us, whats the point going wfp, if you are a true wfp cleaner like me you never need trad again except insides, fact,
jo sum of us trad guys u no njoy it
n before wfp came around it was most probably ow u earned yr money
dont knock it back in the time wen it was all mop
n scrim , i bet most wc were saying them blade things , they'll
never take off lol ;D ;D FACT !!!!!
tammy i i know what you mean, when you make the change to wfp stick to it, i did, sell yourself to the custys, h&s ect, everyone has adapted to all the changes around them, gas board entry every 3 months saftey checks ect, they know all this stuff, i have never touched a ladder in 7 years, only trad insides if asked,
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THATS WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR JOUK!!i think when i get into wfp everythings gonna get the wfp treatment!!sod the ladders!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i refuse insides so i can chuck my mop and blade in the bin!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
only joking!!bungalows trad and downstairs trad in very cold weather!!maybe even trad pole if its below freezing!! :P :P ;) :) :D ;D
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ive been cleaning windows since 1989/90. i was trad up until 4months ago.
now dont get me wrong wfp does do a fantastic job & its way faster than trad,
so with out sayin the money is better to.
but for me now there is something missing, & today i realised what it was.
i really miss the trad! after all these years on the windows im now not enjoying it.
before wfp there was a skill involved, now anyone could do it!
& for me that has just taken everything away from it.
the reason i turned to wfp was because i could no longer do ladder work due to back surgery,
either that or sell up. & i didnt want that. just wanted to know if i was alone on this or if any
of you guys felt the same????
Hitman if you love trad better then WFP then there is nothing wrong with that, I did notice that you say that you have been wfp only 4 months ::) when i started WFP I hated it all that snaging and moaning and not knowing if the windows will come up good, it took me a good year before I started to get in to it......
Now I love it ;D But if you still love trad more then do the downstairs trad, As for the rest of trad window cleaners that say they love trad why I am I picking up work from houses with a lot of leaded windows ;D
trad window cleaners would rather not do them but WFP don't mind
TRAD IS AN EXCELLENT TOOL LONG LIVE IT ;)
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i admit that i some times find wfp boring, but i think this is because i dont concentrate as much, as i am not up ladders and constantly looking for marks on windows, so my mind wonders lol
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cat9921 & dazmond, in my eyes u both hit the nail on the head ;D im so struggling
2get in 2it & u have just pointed out the reasons y :) cat9921 that means ive only got another
8months 2go b4 i may get into it.... :o :o :o :-\ :-\ ::) ::) roll on next year then ;) ;D lol
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ive been cleaning windows since 1989/90. i was trad up until 4months ago.
now dont get me wrong wfp does do a fantastic job & its way faster than trad,
so with out sayin the money is better to.
but for me now there is something missing, & today i realised what it was.
i really miss the trad! after all these years on the windows im now not enjoying it.
before wfp there was a skill involved, now anyone could do it!
& for me that has just taken everything away from it.
the reason i turned to wfp was because i could no longer do ladder work due to back surgery,
either that or sell up. & i didnt want that. just wanted to know if i was alone on this or if any
of you guys felt the same????
I have to agree, there is something really satisfying with cleaning Trad. I still do a bit trad and enjoy the 2-3 days a month. However I don't miss the ladders. That said for the last 4 years before WFP I had a guy who did all the ladder work.
Sorry to hear about your back, enjoy the drugs! ;D