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Title: Bombings ???
Post by: John_Flynn on July 07, 2005, 09:24:09 pm
I may be t'owd lad from upt north, who at times takes the "P", but I do have feelings, just hoping and praying that none of you's lads down South got caught up in the Horrific Incident or choas that had to be tolerated, caused by the mindless in our Capital City today.

My prayers are with you all, Take Care.
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Post by: Doug Holloway on July 07, 2005, 09:30:55 pm
John,

London is a massive place with loads of people  , but until all your family and friends report in safe and sound then you fear.

Thankfully mine have ,  but there will obviously be people who w'ont be so lucky.

God bless everyone,

Doug
Title: Re: Bombings ???
Post by: John_Flynn on July 07, 2005, 09:34:56 pm
Precisley Doug, it did not have to be yourself who was in the middle of the mess, but one of your family or friends.
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Post by: spindle on July 07, 2005, 09:39:01 pm
WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!!!!!!!!
 
 
as a londoner myself....................i am disgusted at how low terrorists will go..no warnings...40+ dead 300+ hospitalised  >:( >:( >:(
 
COWARDS   
 
i would also like to send my condolences and my greatest sympathies to anybodies family caught up in this outrage :'( :'( :'(     
 
 
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Post by: eco freindly. peoples champion ron .sherlock on July 07, 2005, 10:35:19 pm
having arrived back from holiday at heathrow. and found the terrible deylays this morning.i was shocked to hear the reason why.may your god go with you.
Title: Re: Bombings ???
Post by: craig b on July 08, 2005, 11:13:13 am
would just like to say my thoughts our with all the people of London at the minute. and hope yous get all the support and help yous need over the coming months.
They may try and knock yous down but yous will always come back stronger and more togeather as a city and country.

THEY ARE NOTHING BUT COWARDLY SCUM!
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Post by: Gavin Reardon on July 08, 2005, 11:33:31 am
My thoughs and prayers are with all concerned
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Post by: Adrian Makel on July 08, 2005, 04:18:39 pm
My thoughts are with all those that lost loved one and friends.
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Post by: therapist on July 08, 2005, 05:30:04 pm
I remember a speech, by, possibly, the finest Prime Minister this country ' never had ' which warned about the conscequences of uncontrolled immigration into the UK.

Although I was only about 19 years old at the time, I could see the logic in what he was saying

This attack on the British public and the others around the world, may be carried out by the more extreme members of Islam, but anyone who knows basic history, will be aware that the objective of Islam, is to rule the world, " by fair means or foul "

This is not new, it's been going on for centuries, but the Spanish and other Mediteranians have sent them packing, in the past.

This country, however, invites them in, forces us, under threat of jail, to be nice to them, to teach their religion while dropping Christianity and anything remotely connected, as it might offend Moslems

I could go on, but is often said,  " You get from life what you deserve and you are naive enough to invite people into your society, who actively hate and despise you, no matter what they claim publicly, there will be a penalty to be paid "

Some will attack these comments as the ravings of an extremist, or a racist, or whatever

But..........

Why don't I feel the same about Jews, or Chinese, or people with African origins or even Indians, etc

I believe some 18 billion was wiped off the UK market overnight, this will affect you and me and our families

I will probably never post on here again,but you should all consider the errosion that's taking place in your society

robert m
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Post by: strakercleaning on July 08, 2005, 06:18:05 pm
For once, i am in total agreement with you  >:(



ps. My new tag is a badge i wear evryday on my jacket, it does not make me racist, nationalist, facist or anything other than PROUD. (Especially after yesterdays events)
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Post by: Dave_Lee on July 08, 2005, 07:36:28 pm
One thing that gets me is that they truly believe that as a suicide bomber they will go straight to everlasting paradise, when every educated non brainwashed decent person on the planet KNOWS, that if they are going anywhere, its for the eternal burn, in Hell.
Dave.
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Post by: Fintan_Coll on July 08, 2005, 08:16:23 pm
Therapist, you are so right , about time someone spoke the truth those evil people. My sympathies goes out to all my carpet cleaning friends and their families in London, some of which I had the great pleasure of meeting recently.
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Post by: Len Gribble on July 08, 2005, 08:22:52 pm
Robert

Though I agree to what you have said, but we do need immigrants to our GREAT COUNTY.

Perhaps swear a sign allegiance to GB on whatever book and the union flag in the other hand!

Only last week Sir Ian Blare top honcho of then Met police was waffling on about more Moslem police, what’s that about? Only a few weeks earlier he wants more blacks, then you have Ken Livingston every one singing his praises with his speech from Singapore oh what short memories they have, he welcomed one of the most bigoted mullahs there is into this country!

The powers above need to get their act in order but first look in the mirror whose side are you really on! For get the PC and there human rights didn’t the murdered have rights? You thick git len there dead so have no rights!

I have read the Koran and the bible cant remember in ether world domination, conversion yes! But it all down to each persons interpretations! A lot of fruit and nut’s out there!

Can I ask why you may not ever post on here again?

Sorry off on a wobbly!
 
Len
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Post by: John_Flynn on July 08, 2005, 09:51:39 pm
I too remember the Prime Minister that never was!!

So does my 93 year old mother who tells me she remembers one of the early Immigrants been on TV or Radio, saying that in time "They would rule this country"

Last week I drove an Indian Gentleman down to Birmingham from Bradford, this man now lives in Canada since he was thrown out of Ughanda by Idi Amin in 1972, with only the clothes he had on his back, Idi Amin an Islamic took from this man (and 1000's of others too) his business, a transport company with 122 trucks. This Gentleman (now a millionaire) compared Amin to Hitler but said that Hitler did not kill the Germans!!

Robert M I agree in what you say, Chris Stracker where did you get your badge? I WANT ONE.

I think it is now time for Mr Blair to take a few hundred backsteps and undo what he has done to our country.

I am a firm believer in the saying " When in Rome do as the Romans do!!".
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Post by: strakercleaning on July 09, 2005, 12:02:51 am
John,
Bought badge (and many others) on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60605&item=6191541557&rd=1

Good luck
Title: Re: Bombings ???
Post by: Derek on July 09, 2005, 06:40:53 am
I would love to ask Mr Phoney Blair...

1.   Why did he remove border controls?

2.   Why is that fanatic still being allowed to incite racial hatred at the Finsbury Park mosque (and 'how much' does he get on benefit)?

3.   Why don't we ditch the Human Rights law from Brussels and deal with these people realistically (and other criminals too)

When Mr Phoney Blair said that "he was going to deal with the causes of crime" he perhaps forgot for one fleeting moment that his Government (aided and abetted by the Law Lords) have been a major cause of the increase in crime!

Rant over...

Derek
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Post by: *paul_moss on July 09, 2005, 02:41:26 pm
http://Therapist
What you say is true and even though many will not say so in public agree with you.
I totally agree with all the above comments.

Derek well said.

Regards
Paul
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Post by: paul_smith on July 09, 2005, 04:20:57 pm
Derek,
you spelt Phoney Blair wrong,it is Phoney bliar.
Cheers
Paul
Title: Re: Bombings ???
Post by: Derek on July 09, 2005, 06:06:11 pm
Slip of the finger Paul...slip of the finger  ;)

But you knew what I really meant to say

Derek
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Post by: dave401uk on July 09, 2005, 07:27:34 pm
I also agree with all that is being posted, but as a thought, bearing in mind the amout of temple style buildings that are blighting our once great land scape.

How many roman catholic/church of England churchs, do you see in Jeda, Bombay, afganistan, deli, ect,

It is about time we started to look out for our own, if they want to kill each other in there own countries,LET THEM.

Rant over

Dave
Title: Re: Bombings ???
Post by: john rees on July 09, 2005, 08:39:23 pm
General "Black Jack" Pershing and the Muslim Terrorists in the Philippines before WW I

General Pershing was born September 13th, 1860 near Laclede, MS. he died July 15th, 1948 in Washington, DC.

Highlights of his life include:

1891 Professor of Military Science and Tactics University of Nebraska
1898 Serves in the Spanish-American War
1901 Awarded rank of Captain
1906 Promoted to rank of Brig. General
1909 Military Governor of Moro Province, Philippines
1916 Made Major General
1919 Promoted to General of the Armies
1921 Appointed Chief of Staff
1924 Retires from active duty Education West Point.

Just before World War I, there were a number of terrorist attacks on the United States forces in the Philippines by Muslim extremists. So General Pershing captured 50 terrorists, and had them tied to posts for execution. He then had his men bring in two pigs and slaughter them in front of the, now horrified, terrorists.

Muslims detest pork, because they believe pigs are filthy animals. Some of them simply refuse to eat it, while others won't even touch pigs at all, nor any of their by-products. To them, eating or touching a pig, its meat, its blood, etc., is to be instantly barred from Paradise (and those virgins), and doomed to hell.

The soldiers then soaked their bullets in the pigs' blood, and proceeded to execute 49 of the terrorists by firing squad. The soldiers then dug a big hole, dumped in the terrorist's bodies, and covered them in pig blood, entrails, etc. They let the 50th man go.

And for the next 42 years, there was not a single Muslim extremist attack anywhere in the world.

Maybe it is time for this segment of history to repeat itself, maybe in Iraq? The question is, where do we find another Black Jack Pershing?
Title: Re: Bombings ???
Post by: ian richards on July 09, 2005, 10:25:45 pm
WHY WON'T ANYONE MENTION HIS NAME....OK, I WILL.....ENOCH POWELL, there you go, it wasnt so bad was it!!   

I have watched this post with great interest, and agree with most of the comments made, however i have good friends who are deeply relgious muslims and are truly mortified of the events of late >:(  They feel that these extremists are degrading their own god, allah or whatever you want to call him.
I feel really sorry for those innocent people that will be subjected to ridicule and scorned at from venomous tongue's!!
I have seen many things in my life, when i was 10 years old i witnessed a six year old girl being made to commit oral sex on a guy that was old enough to be her Great grand father :(
When i was fifteen i watched a gang of 8 idiots give someone brain damage to another 15 year old boy just because  he from a different part of the estate :(
I sat in a pub one night at the age of 23 and saw one guy permantely blind someone with a broken end of a bottle because he had asked his EX girlfriend out for a drink:(

And i once witnessed an old lady of 82 being smashed in the face, so the scumbag could get hold of her handbag to rob her of the £7.32 that  she had in it :( I know that it was £7.32 because i caught the b...stard and shoved a housebrick down his throat :) :)

So dont anyone ever judge people as a whole because a few scumags of society who took it upon themselves to become public martars!!
I condone anyone that judges a majority on a minority!!

These lunatics, because that is what they are, have not got a clue what decency is >:(

There is good and bad among us all, someone might say that the things that i have witnessed, would determine that us brits are the lowest forms of life, but we know that we are NOT!!!

This event took away one the most momentus occasions of the last 50 years. Our celebrations lasted less than 24 hours, because we are having to mourn the deaths of over 50 people  :(  but do NOT judge eveyone with the same brush >:( >:(

Ian
 
Title: Re: Bombings ???
Post by: Derek on July 10, 2005, 07:21:39 am
Ian

You are right...

In this situation, like that of the IRA bombings a few years ago it is time for all innocents, of all denominations to stand together against these cowardly bullies.

There are some who know who the perpetrators are and they should denounce them for if they don't then they are just as guilty
It will never happen I know but it is the only way...there should be no hiding place for them.

Derek
Title: Re: Bombings ???
Post by: John_Flynn on July 10, 2005, 08:12:44 am
When I was a Special Constable in our training we were told about 'Judges Rules' this states that it is the responsibility of EVERY citizen to help the police wherever and in whatever opportunity they can!!

If everybody followed these rules the SCUM would soon be brought to light.

In your instances Ian, did you obey the 'Judges Rule' ??

ENOCH POWELL I said his name as well, God bless his soul.
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Post by: Prestige1 on July 10, 2005, 08:49:49 am
Ian R is right, not all people of this religion are bad, and this is the terrorists aim. They want us to hate all Muslims so that ordinary Muslims rise up and fight the infidels (us) but what really gets my goat is when we allow people to speak up and condemn our country the very country that provides them with a safe home, food and shelter and money! to me any one who comes in gets 3 months benefit and then if they don't get a job and pay there way kick them out back to where they come from, I am not racist far from it but I am fiercely defensive of our wonderful country and the people who come from it. One thing I don't think these B***rds who committed these crimes understands the British mentality. our History has shown how we will not be pushed around how when things like this happens it makes us stronger and closer more determined to go about our daily life. Whilst other Nations will cower under such threats not the British. Hitler couldn’t do it and neither will some backward punker waller from wherever. It’s very pleasing to hear people with similar views, why when opinion is so strong about immigration this government will not listen. Some thing needs to change sooner rather then later. Kind regards to all Phil
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Post by: John_Flynn on July 10, 2005, 12:10:13 pm
I just wonder how many of our immigrants will be out today giving thanks to the Men and Women who fought to Save OUR COUNTRY for THEM to come to and try to take over??
Title: Re: Bombings ???
Post by: ian richards on July 10, 2005, 12:45:38 pm
John

Some of these images still haunt me today, i never talk to anyone about some of these incidents, and the only reason i mentiond it this last night was because i had a liitle to much to drink and i feel quite angry when people start to get on the  lets get rid of em synadrome

You asked if i had played judge?

I think i did when i caught the scumbag who tried to mug the old lady!!

With regard to the pervert who was sexually asaulting the young child,  i ran off and started screaming for help as soon as i saw some adults in the park!!
i felt safe then!

He was gone when they got there, and as far as i know, he was never caught >:( The child was found crying, but i think still young enough to maybe forget.
It made local news and a police hunt went out, but as i say to no avail :(

Yes, i have asked myself many times, "did i do the right thing, or i should i have started screaming for help straight away, but you forget , i was a child myself.

As i say, i have hardly ever spoke about these incidents, and as now i won't ever speak about it again on this forum!!

Lets find these scumbags and as sugested above drown them in pigs blood >:( >:(

I'm finished on the subject!!

Ian
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Post by: Dave_Lee on July 10, 2005, 01:48:54 pm
I am sure we have all done jobs for Asians, whether Hindu or Muslim. Curious about their faith I have asked questions about it, as we see Muslims women total covered, partly covered and others dressing western. The answer is simple like followers of other faiths, people may have a reasonable or form belief, but they are not neccesarily very religeous. This equally applies to Muslims, some have the background conviction but do not practise the religion. I dont believe that Muslims or any other terrorists are religious, they just use it as an excuse and a recruiting weapon to further and act out their idealism. Those Taliban and insurgents in Iraq are running scared of being defeated and this is their way of kicking back. It is nothing to do with religion or holy war, it about them not wanting an end to their selfish domineering way of life. They have not evolved from the dark ages, nor do they want to.
Dave.
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Post by: eco freindly. peoples champion ron .sherlock on July 10, 2005, 07:06:53 pm
this topic is becoming far to political. it should be for wishing well to those suffering, and not to post volatle statements which may cause unjust offence to the many muslims who are law abiding and as british as we are. perhaps you should reflect views in aspiritual way. and leave your ungamley sentimentins on another forum fo r that kind of view.i
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Post by: John_Flynn on July 10, 2005, 07:17:24 pm
I watched the 60th tributes this afternoon and had tears rolling down my cheeks as I watched the Proud Men (now old Men) who risked their lives for us all.

Anybody notice the old lad who ran across the front of the Queen Range Rover then briskly turned around stood to attention and Saluted the Queen??. God bless him and the thousands who went out and fought for us , but alas never came back.
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Post by: Bryan H on July 11, 2005, 12:42:46 pm
I fully agree with the comments so far !

My wife missed the Edgeware Rd. bomb by a very few minutes.   Very scary !!

Bryan
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Post by: John_Flynn on July 12, 2005, 01:31:29 pm
After starting this thread, NEVER did I imagine that at 6.00am this morning 2 houses not more than 1/2 a mile from where i live  were raided by terrorist officers investigating the London Bombings.
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Post by: Doug Holloway on July 12, 2005, 08:34:40 pm
Guys,

This topic is being locked in respect to those who died.

Doug