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Title: gutted & mad stolen ladder!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: george formby on March 03, 2010, 06:53:02 pm
I have had a couple of A frame ladders stolen in the last couple of month, when on my way to a job today I spotted my ladders on the roof of a car, so i pulled over the driver and there they were "My ladders". How do i know this, coz i recentley put new feet on them and had to cut them to size. And what makes it worse it is a  lad who had them talks to me on this forum, Cheeky Git!!!! another reason i know is that he told me his name, he is a local window cleaner in my home town, and to top it off iv spoke to him on here and helped him out no end and thats the way he repays me!!!!
He should be banned off the forum for this kind of behaviour, but if he's not i will be longer using this forum.

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Post by: paul saunders on March 03, 2010, 06:58:59 pm
Did you get them back?
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Post by: Slash on March 03, 2010, 07:01:40 pm
Name and shame
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Post by: george formby on March 03, 2010, 07:04:38 pm
just 1 set the others will turn up soon
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Post by: wfp master on March 03, 2010, 07:06:23 pm
name him :o
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 07:06:37 pm
Look, i genuinely did not know they were STOLEN!!!!!

The lad who sold them to me, told me he was getting rid of them cos he was packing the job in.

Do you think if i knew they were stolen that i would of drove round the town with them on? Its a bit like stealing my neighbours garden ornament and putting it in my garden.  

you may think im stupid, but im not that stupid

i could of told you all this today, but you didnt give me the chance. Which is understandable.
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Post by: RO-Sheen on March 03, 2010, 07:09:54 pm
Ryan, if what you say is true you will go to the police with Eric and report the theft.
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 07:11:04 pm
no need for police cos i was there today and they let me go without charge
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Post by: Ian Mason on March 03, 2010, 07:11:11 pm
Ryan, if what you say is true you will go to the police with Eric and report the theft.

Totally agee!
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Post by: Mike_G on March 03, 2010, 07:14:33 pm
I would be very careful with this name and shame stuff unless you can prove that it was him who actually stole your ladders you could end up in a whole lot of trouble, slander I guess etc etc, thing is the chap could of brought them from a local paper, a guy in the pub or an ad in the local paper and he might be a victim as much as you.
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 07:16:03 pm
I would be very careful with this name and shame stuff unless you can prove that it was him who actually stole your ladders you could end up in a whole lot of trouble, slander I guess etc etc, thing is the chap could of brought them from a local paper, a guy in the pub or an ad in the local paper and he might be a victim as much as you.

very true 
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Post by: RO-Sheen on March 03, 2010, 07:18:04 pm
no need for police cos i was there today and they let me go without charge

Did you go there with Eric though?? You need to inform Eric and the Police where the thief live. If you can't do that it doesnt look very good for you
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Post by: Mike_G on March 03, 2010, 07:21:00 pm
Many years ago when i worked for OCS we had a ladder stolen after a few months we spotted it on a building site so the boss reported it to the police and they did not want to know, they said they couldn't prove that the builder had stolen it and he might of bought them from someone and therefore there was nothing they could do despite the fact the ladder was stamped with a serial number and had OCS carved into the wood on both sides of the ladder!
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 07:21:34 pm
didnt go with Eric [gaz]

he phoned them at the side of the road, and i waited for them to turn up, as i had nothing to hide.
two vans &  T5, you woulda thought i had commited a murder
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Post by: george formby on March 03, 2010, 07:28:11 pm
yes that was over the top a face to face apology would be nice
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Post by: actualcleaning on March 03, 2010, 07:30:10 pm
Whats wrong with giving the bloke the benefit of the doubt?
Pretty hard to believe he would come on the forum and own up to the fact that he might have your ladders....after all you say they were yours but he in all probability didn't know that.Give the lad a chance,seems like you jumped straight in with the accusations.
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 07:30:22 pm
will call in the office next week if you want.
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Post by: R W C™ on March 03, 2010, 07:33:13 pm
Eric when you pulled him over did your start kicking off or did you ask where he got the ladder from, if someone started giving it to me and accusing me I too wouldnt appologise,
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Post by: george formby on March 03, 2010, 07:45:22 pm
lets just forget about iti am deleting as a forum member
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Post by: paul rulton on March 03, 2010, 07:46:54 pm
lets just forget about iti am deleting as a forum member
dont do that m8, not worth u losing out :-[
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Post by: rg1 on March 03, 2010, 07:54:27 pm
As far as I can see it seems to have all been a misunderstanding. In which case you should both shake hands and concentrate on finding the guy who did steal the ladders.

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Post by: krave on March 03, 2010, 07:57:39 pm
Deleting the acc was not really needed. Seems like sulking has got the better, which is a shame really.

Stuff like this happens all the time, stolen stuff always gets sold or passed on, so speaking should be the first port of call. not arguing or throwing accusations.
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Post by: Frankybadboy on March 03, 2010, 07:58:07 pm
well all ryan got to do is tell him who the bloke was,show a receipt for them job sorted. :P :P :P :P :P


but in real life




he brought them of someone in a pub for cash who hes never seen before. :'(


work it out for your self.





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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 08:09:00 pm
Stuff like this happens all the time, stolen stuff always gets sold or passed on, so speaking should be the first port of call. not arguing or throwing accusations.

I agree

well all ryan got to do is tell him who the bloke was,show a receipt for them job sorted. :P :P :P :P :P


but in real life




he brought them of someone in a pub for cash who hes never seen before. :'(


work it out for your self.


I dont know the bloke that i bought them off. And i never bought them off a bloke in the pub
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Post by: actualcleaning on March 03, 2010, 08:11:54 pm
Were these ladders the ones with gold feet and diamond runs.... ::)

Give the bloke a break,he says he nows nowt about it,isn't that good enough?
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Post by: paul rulton on March 03, 2010, 08:14:35 pm
thinkin about it ??? y didnt u ave ur ladders padlocked? ??? bet they r now ;D
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 08:14:58 pm
Eric when you pulled him over did your start kicking off or did you ask where he got the ladder from, if someone started giving it to me and accusing me I too wouldnt appologise,

Yes he was kicking off
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Post by: paul rulton on March 03, 2010, 08:19:35 pm
has he got his ladders bk now?
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Post by: ftp on March 03, 2010, 08:20:03 pm
Surely you know where you bought them?
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 08:27:05 pm
has he got his ladders bk now?

Yes

Surely you know where you bought them?

i helped the police with their enquiries, to the greatest of my ability
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 08:37:07 pm
cheers ;D

it has just all been blown out of proportion.

Understandably the guy is upset about having his ladders stolen. But there was no need acting the way he did towards me.

One lesson i have learned, is to pay a bit extra & buy brand new ladders from a reputable source
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Post by: paul rulton on March 03, 2010, 08:50:04 pm
hard lesson learnd ryan :-[ its done n over :) so move on wards n up wards ;)
on ya own ladders tho.... hey ryan...  sorry ryan had 2put in me ladder joke :-\ yer i know....
it was poop, n ive gotta stick wiv the windys ::) ::)
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Post by: krave on March 03, 2010, 08:59:11 pm
[quote author=ryan Lee link=topic=92003.msg820040#msg820040 date=1267648627
Okay when i first started i bought second hand ladders.

a 4m double for      £30
7 rung A frame for  £40

i already had a titan trade 3m double at home

Now, i didnt get receipts for these ladders, can i still claim for them?



These ladders are coming to the end of their life anyway, not because their damaged (still safe & sound), but because they just look tatty & un-professional. And dont really give me a "clean" image.

Im off next week to buy myself a brand new pair of titan trade 4m doubles, and will be looking for a brand new 11 rung A frame soon
Quote

A post from when Ryan first started using the forum....

Excuse the date on the quote, just copy and pasted one of his old messages......
Title: Re: gutted & mad stolen ladder!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 09:06:57 pm
 ??? any point to this?
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Post by: Ian Mason on March 03, 2010, 09:10:19 pm
??? any point to this?

Yeah, he is saying the original posters ladders look  tatty & un-professional. ;D
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Post by: jonnyald on March 03, 2010, 09:12:07 pm
must admit,id strike a few blows on realizing they were my ladders .
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 09:15:56 pm
assault charge. more expensive public liability, newspaper coverage on your company?

Still a good idea  ???
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Post by: paul rulton on March 03, 2010, 09:18:07 pm
this is gettin no where now ::) some1 please lock this off ;D
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 09:36:12 pm
nowt wrong with a healthy debate  ???

;D

just my name has been dragged down, and anybody that wants to know my version of events, then il only be too happy to oblige ;D
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Post by: Frankybadboy on March 03, 2010, 09:48:28 pm
well go on then tell us,nows your chance. ;)
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 09:50:53 pm
what do you want to know?
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Post by: Frankybadboy on March 03, 2010, 10:03:38 pm
"and anybody that wants to know my version of events, then il only be too happy to oblige"




us tell us what happened,and how you come to have a nicked pair of ladders.easy
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Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on March 03, 2010, 10:11:13 pm
i bought them off a lad that offered them for sale

he was about mid 20s blue jeans grey hoody. unshaven.

I never considered they could of been stolen. But looking back at events, perhaps i acted in hindsight. Im not one to look a gifthorse in the mouth

and thats about it re: the 'actual' 'getting' of the ladders
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Post by: Gleaming windows on March 03, 2010, 10:33:19 pm
Him?

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_04/SeanSlaterBBC_468x505.jpg)

And you didnt think he wasn't going to pull a fast?

Come ooorrnnn! pool de ovva one mate!


Sean Slaters a right cowboy, you been mugged mate  ;D
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on March 03, 2010, 10:53:45 pm
Many years ago when i worked for OCS we had a ladder stolen after a few months we spotted it on a building site so the boss reported it to the police and they did not want to know, they said they couldn't prove that the builder had stolen it and he might of bought them from someone and therefore there was nothing they could do despite the fact the ladder was stamped with a serial number and had OCS carved into the wood on both sides of the ladder!
which branch ov ocs did u work 4
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Post by: paul rulton on March 03, 2010, 10:56:08 pm
hey lammy, nice of u 2join us ;) u still sellin off them ladders  ;D
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on March 03, 2010, 11:10:03 pm
lol noooooo i used to work 4 stoke branch ov ocs
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Post by: paul rulton on March 03, 2010, 11:12:16 pm
ok im thick ??? i will ask....... wots ocs ::) ??? ??? ???
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Post by: Gleaming windows on March 03, 2010, 11:12:45 pm
Orifice cleaning services.
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on March 03, 2010, 11:14:04 pm
nearly rite office cleaning services now called one complete solution
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Post by: paul rulton on March 03, 2010, 11:24:41 pm
ooooooooohhhh ??? i feel no better 4 knowing that ::) but thanks 4 filling me in..... i think ???lol
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on March 03, 2010, 11:30:46 pm
massive company used to av branches in all major
towns payd pennies but got loadsa work
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Post by: paul rulton on March 03, 2010, 11:33:46 pm
sounds about rite ::)
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Post by: Terry_Burrows on March 04, 2010, 07:27:12 am
 ;D Ryan I think has been unlucky to be caught up in this he just did what any one of us would have done ::) he saw a bargin and went for it nothing more,
years ago I had a d ;Double 16ft taken off my van in the west end of london :o
cant help thinking I would have dealt with it ask questions if it sounded dodgy
I proberly would have just taken them back,after helping get up from the floor ;D
There is one thing I cant stand is stealing from hard working people like us!

who ever tried to brake into house would have a terrible shock :o ;) knifes Guns
and thats just from the action man ;D
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Post by: jeff1 on March 04, 2010, 10:14:16 am
Just read this post and I think its a bloody shame that 2 good friends have fallen out  over something that they could have both been the victim in.
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Post by: formb on March 04, 2010, 10:55:18 am
What a lot of old women you are!!! George Formby you said you already spoke to this guy in the street. Why on earth did you not sort it out then?

My wife works in a hairdressers this is how they might sort out a problem.

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Post by: Jason Williscroft on March 04, 2010, 11:11:41 am
hi all

i've just noticed this post and i've been trying to work out exactly whats going on!

by the sounds of it (unless i am mistaken) the ladders are now back with their rightful owner. I think all parties have learnt a lesson and unfortunately the only person that has profited is the crooked middle man.

i hope that bridges can maybe be rebuilt - we are all self employed trying to make a living and dealing with our customers and bringing in the business is difficult enough sometimes without falling out with each other.

it was a horrible situation by the sounds of it and i think we would all of reacted in a similar manner - i just hope it didnt affect the work being done and the money coming in!
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Post by: Mack's Window Cleaning on March 04, 2010, 11:48:57 am
Good thing he ( the thief ) didn't steal anything else (re Wayne Bridge v John Terry), we'd be into the 100,000's of posts by now!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) :-*I'm with Team Ladder! ;D ;) ;D ;)
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Post by: paul rulton on March 04, 2010, 03:37:33 pm
Just read this post and I think its a bloody shame that 2 good friends have fallen out  over something that they could have both been the victim in.
well saic jeff1 ;)
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on March 04, 2010, 04:25:58 pm
y dont they share the ladder  ;D ;D
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Post by: paul rulton on March 04, 2010, 04:29:51 pm
y dont they share the ladder  ;D ;D
they should just give the ladder 2u lammy, prob faster than both of them haha :o ;D
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on March 04, 2010, 04:33:33 pm
getting a pair of the mega stilt things wot u can jump
bout 10 ft high in lol
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Post by: bumper on March 04, 2010, 05:02:35 pm
As i sea it george forman carnt george formby carnt get done for slander coz he is dead well i think hes dead well hes dead then how can he get done for slander
bumper,or is it jumper no its bumber thanxs.
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Post by: wfp master on March 04, 2010, 06:06:49 pm
As i sea it george forman carnt george formby carnt get done for slander coz he is dead well i think hes dead well hes dead then how can he get done for slander
bumper,or is it jumper no its bumber thanxs.
are you on drugs  ?
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Post by: s.w.c on March 04, 2010, 06:45:37 pm
i bought them off a lad that offered them for sale

he was about mid 20s blue jeans grey hoody. unshaven.

I never considered they could of been stolen. But looking back at events, perhaps i acted in hindsight. Im not one to look a gifthorse in the mouth

and thats about it re: the 'actual' 'getting' of the ladders

sounds like someone is to trusting, but from words you should be able to know something aint to clever. 
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Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 04, 2010, 09:26:54 pm
As i sea it george forman carnt george formby carnt get done for slander coz he is dead well i think hes dead well hes dead then how can he get done for slander
bumper,or is it jumper no its bumber thanxs.
are you on drugs  ?

sfwc- I've just sprayed tea into my keyboard! ;D
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Post by: wfp master on March 04, 2010, 11:42:23 pm
As i sea it george forman carnt george formby carnt get done for slander coz he is dead well i think hes dead well hes dead then how can he get done for slander
bumper,or is it jumper no its bumber thanxs.
are you on drugs  ?

sfwc- I've just sprayed tea into my keyboard! ;D
  ;D ;D i take it you dont understand it either.