Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mattywig on February 23, 2010, 10:53:47 pm
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IVE PUT A ROUND FOR SALE ON EBAY IN CAMBRIDGESHIRE ITS AWESOME WORK BUT IVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE TRAVELLING IT'S TOTALLY GENUINE WILL ONLY LET IT GO FOR THE RIGHT MONEY IF INTERESTED CHECK IT OUT ON EBAY AND GIVE ME A CALL ON 07706 253106.
I AM NOT INTERESTED IN RENTING OR DOING ANY KIND OF DEAL JUST IN SELLING IT AND I HAVE FULL ACCOUNTS/BUSINESS ACCOUNT TO BACK UP THE FIGURES.
P.S IM NOT ON THIS FORUM MUCH SO IF YOU NEED TO CONTACT ME JUST CALL ME THANK MATT
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Link may have helped.
Sounds like good work. Very good work by the advert.
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current bid £6.50 ;D
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Are you the fella I was talking to the other week that suffers from alopecia :-\
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Are you the fella I was talking to the other week that suffers from alopecia :-\
Hee Hee Hee. ;D ;D
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Here is a link the ebay advert >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUPERB-WINDOW-CLEANING-ROUND-FOR-SALE-IN-CAMBRIDGESHIRE_W0QQitemZ170447873965
IT TAKES WELL OVER £30,000 PER ANNUM FOR ONLY 5 DAYS WORK FOR ONE MAN PER MONTH.
I AVERAGE BETWEEN £450 AND £500 TAKINGS PER DAY WORKING BY MYSELF ON WATER FED POLE.
THE HOURLY RATE AVERAGES OUT AT £70 PER HOUR FOR ONE MAN.
ALL OF THE WORK IS PRIVATE BIG HOUSES IN NICE LUCRATIVE VILLAGES AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS WITH PRICES RANGING FROM £15 TO £75 PER HOUSE GENERALLY PRICED AT AROUND £1.50 PER WINDOW.
THE WORK IS COMPACT ALL WITHIN A TEN MILE RADIUS AND SPLIT INTO 5 BLOCKS SO THAT YOU STAY IN THE SAME AREA ALL DAY.
Hmmmmmm??
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who wouldnt travel for work like that?? i would 200 miles 5 days a month for work that good!! ??? ???
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Thanks for posting the link for me Im not the best at that kind of thing! Like I said it's totally genuine and I can back it up with accounts and the buyer will get to see it for him (or herself) when they work it with me.
Thanks Matt
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£30k per year for 5 days per month?
and wants £30,000 for the round?
I think someone needs to wake up and smell the coffee!!!
£2,500 per month = £10,000 maximum.
if it was that good I would certainly have someone work for me to clean the round.
pay him £15,000 per year that leaves you with £15,000 per year for doing nothing.
Matt
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I would want to work it with you Matt BEFORE I bid on it.
Noone in the right mind would part with any cash until they work the round. and meet EVERY customer.
Matt
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Yeah too good to be true, plus its kind of abusing the forum turning it into wcroundsforsale surely with that turnover you can affort an advert on there to catch the eye of window cleaners. It doesn't bother me really though.
Although I do get the maths ok. 500 per day 5 days - £2500 every four weeks would be 13 cleans a year 13x2500 = £32500.
Not really well over £30k and thats only if you dont get any days off with weather or holidays.
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Ladder the average round will sell for 4x monthly turnover.
£2500 x 4 = £10,000
I know a lot of window cleaners and they will NEVER buy a round for 12 months turnover.
You are buying 'goodwill' as mentioned last year.
they are not tied into legal contracts like commercial customers.
Matt
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sorry MB I read your post wrong there, and yeah I personally don't buy work but even if I was to consider it I wouldn't pay more than 3x.
Its a fair point though its not Well Over 30k and even then that would be at best.
Matty, how many custies, whats the average price?
Not wanting to have a go, but I think you would do better putting it on wcroundsforsale and takings MB's advice about the price.
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Yes 4 x monthly on £5 houses is fair, but this is WAGS prices and worth it imo. I know of a lad who lives on Teesside and does the same & travels to Cambridge every month and gets same sort of money.
idealrob
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Dont you think a round that is over priced is more likely to be at risk of competitors undercutting. Because lets face it if everyone there is paying so much more for there windows, someone will come in and say fine I will do the 5 days a month for 15k no probs and still be quite happy.
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The profit margin on the work is extremely high I would ask MB which other business you could buy with a 90% plus profit margin for one years profit?
If it was a crappy little corner shop it would sell for 3 years profit for a load of hassle instead I am selling for 1 years profit for no hassle it's got to be a bargain.
Any work I have sold in the past Ive got a years turnover for no problem and i guarantee someone with common sense will pay the asking price for this round and never look back.
Im 100% honest and the round is exactly as advertised thanks for viewing it.
Matt
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The profit margin on the work is extremely high I would ask MB which other business you could buy with a 90% plus profit margin for one years profit?
If it was a crappy little corner shop it would sell for 3 years profit for a load of hassle instead I am selling for 1 years profit for no hassle it's got to be a bargain.
Any work I have sold in the past Ive got a years turnover for no problem and i guarantee someone with common sense will pay the asking price for this round and never look back.
Im 100% honest and the round is exactly as advertised thanks for viewing it.
Matt
Hi Matt,
I was looking back at some of your older posts on the forum (from last year) and you talk about having £7 houses, putting your customers all up by 50p etc...
I take it this is a different round?
Andy
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The profit margin on the work is extremely high I would ask MB which other business you could buy with a 90% plus profit margin for one years profit?
If it was a crappy little corner shop it would sell for 3 years profit for a load of hassle instead I am selling for 1 years profit for no hassle it's got to be a bargain.
Any work I have sold in the past Ive got a years turnover for no problem and i guarantee someone with common sense will pay the asking price for this round and never look back.
Im 100% honest and the round is exactly as advertised thanks for viewing it.
Matt
Matt, this is not a business like a corner shop!
When buying a window cleaning round, you are only buying goodwill, that is stated by HMRC.
there are no assets in a window cleaning round, unlike a corner shop.
unless you have everyone tied in to a legal contract, its nothing more than gesture.
Are you selling the van and equipment as well?
Matt
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The profit margin on the work is extremely high I would ask MB which other business you could buy with a 90% plus profit margin for one years profit?
If it was a crappy little corner shop it would sell for 3 years profit for a load of hassle instead I am selling for 1 years profit for no hassle it's got to be a bargain.
Any work I have sold in the past Ive got a years turnover for no problem and i guarantee someone with common sense will pay the asking price for this round and never look back.
Im 100% honest and the round is exactly as advertised thanks for viewing it.
Matt
What are you looking for?
1 years profit or 1 years turnover?
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The profit margin on the work is extremely high I would ask MB which other business you could buy with a 90% plus profit margin for one years profit?
If it was a crappy little corner shop it would sell for 3 years profit for a load of hassle instead I am selling for 1 years profit for no hassle it's got to be a bargain.
Any work I have sold in the past Ive got a years turnover for no problem and i guarantee someone with common sense will pay the asking price for this round and never look back.
Im 100% honest and the round is exactly as advertised thanks for viewing it.
Matt
Matt, this is not a business like a corner shop!
When buying a window cleaning round, you are only buying goodwill, that is stated by HMRC.
there are no assets in a window cleaning round, unlike a corner shop.
unless you have everyone tied in to a legal contract, its nothing more than gesture.
Are you selling the van and equipment as well?
Matt
I agree with Matt, there is no tangible asset here just the goodwill of the customers, I have bought lots of rounds off guys over the last 5 years and ALL say the same thing, "it’s a great business, Customers are great, Almost all pay on the day of the clean, Prices are ready to go up.” I have heard it all and it’s never as good as it’s sold.
In reality you can be sure you will lose some, (up to 25% in some cases) Perhaps this round is of particularity high value but customers are the same no matter how much or little they pay.
Worst case scenario and the buyer lost 25% of this round, that’s a huge chunk gone. The payback will be years. Turnover for vanity, profit for sanity!!!!!
Whichever way you cut it this is a part time round. 5 days work for 30k seems totally over the top to me, but hey good luck if you can get it.
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Hi Andy yes this is a totally different round in a totally different much wealthier area.
MB, apart from your costs of running a vehicle and equipment once youve bought your gear, the round is virtually all clean profit in any case. isn't that why we are all window cleaners?! so profit and turnover aren't that different in my experience this must be he highest profit margin of any business Ive come across?? the price is £30000 and won't budge the interest in it has been overwhelming and Ive been offered close to my asking price already.
Thanks for your advice though MB.
Cheers Matt
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Good luck Matt
Matt
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Thanks for the post Jack Wallace you are right in that it is a part time but it is a part time round for what a lot of people would consider very good full time money.
Its the opportunity to earn a good living for working one week a month that I believe has to be worth £30000. I think anyone sitting on that kind of money out of work would be mad not to go for it.
Thanks Matt
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let us know how you get on with it, and prove us sceptics wrong. I'll keep an eye on the ebay page with interest. Good luck and I do hope you get what your asking for sincerely.
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Thanks for the post Jack Wallace you are right in that it is a part time but it is a part time round for what a lot of people would consider very good full time money.
Its the opportunity to earn a good living for working one week a month that I believe has to be worth £30000. I think anyone sitting on that kind of money out of work would be mad not to go for it.
Thanks Matt
I agree it is a great opportunity for someone providing the round stays together, and I really hope you get your price. Although I think the price is high I am also glad to see window cleaning finally being valued for what it is. A great business lifestyle.
As soon as I hit 50 I will be packing in and retiring to my place abroad so in 3 years and 4 months time (not that I am counting) I will thank people like you for pushing up the values. Keep up the good work ;)
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If this round is what matt says it is its worth every penny. How can he be charging too much when he has ran a succesful business charging these prices? Thats why we have Waitrose and Aldi. There are different markets within an industry. I know of rounds that have fetched 10x the monthly value of the round. Your buying a business and if you have an iota of common sense you wont lose hardly any customers. In fact with new enthusiasm a round can become larger very quickly.
Consider the following, a man who lives in london and has worked full time for years wants to take a lifestyle change and semi-retire somewhere with his wife maybe kids. He sells his house for 400k, buys a house in cambridge for 300k and this round. he now works 75%-50% ( 50% if he takes his time) less than he did and has much more time to himself and for his family (and lives in a much nicer place). In buying this round he has also made an investment.
I wonder what value this man would put on the round and the opportunity it could mean for him.
Beauty (or value) is in the eye of the beholder my friends
Tim
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still a rip off of a price ::) only a mug would pay that or some1 who aint gotta clue ??? ???
5x's 6 tops.
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Thanks TLC just turned down £25000 for it Im 100% I'll get the price I want and that the buyer will think they have a bargain.
I think a lot of us have sold work to cheaply in the past it surely has to be worth a lot more.
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i wish ;D
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yep
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we can all dream ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
some fool will buy it
one born everyday
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How long have you been traveling 210 miles for to do this work, 3hrs 45 mins there and then back for 5 days ???
If you had this kind of work why wouldnt you stay in that area and build a full round earning roughly 10.5k a month (130ka year) but you would prefer to live in Durham.
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Yeah too good to be true, plus its kind of abusing the forum turning it into wcroundsforsale surely with that turnover you can affort an advert on there to catch the eye of window cleaners. It doesn't bother me really though.
Although I do get the maths ok. 500 per day 5 days - £2500 every four weeks would be 13 cleans a year 13x2500 = £32500.
Not really well over £30k and thats only if you dont get any days off with weather or holidays.
days off when you only do one week in 4 lol
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worth 12500 tops......thats 5x the monthly income........3x for ladder work.....5x for wfp.
worth around 10k in my estimation, however if someone has offered you 25k then snap their hand off 8)
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SORRY FOR ASKING BUT IF THE PRICE IS NOT NEGOTIABLE WHY IS IT UP FOR AUCTION
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SORRY FOR ASKING BUT IF THE PRICE IS NOT NEGOTIABLE WHY IS IT UP FOR AUCTION
haha ;D well pointed out stevehands haha
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And with no reserve someones gonna get a real bargain!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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no reserve right he reckons had offer ov 25k
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its at £285.99 recon i could get it 4 £300 ;D wot u think fellers lol :o
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oh yes hitman il go halves lol
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DONE DEAL ;D im in ;D
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Best of luck with the auction chaps! I just figured ebay would be a good free way of letting wc's know my work was for sale? Didn't really know of another way to do it?
Matt
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To put things in perspective, in 1997-8 I sold my window cleaning business. It was turning over £1,500 per week. I split it into three rounds at £500 a week and got £10,000 for each one - £30,000 total.
OK. the potential annual turnover was over £70,000 but it was full time, 7 hours a day for each round to make about £24-25,000, but I had no trouble selling it and all the buyers were happy with what they got. Two of them are still running their businesses and the third re-sold at a profit.
Experienced window cleaners on here are not likely to pay those sort of prices, but for someone looking for a ready made business with guaranteed income from day one and no experience of building a business for themselves, anything like this is a bargain.
Never sell yourselves short ;)
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im about 30mins from camb, per happs will do a bit of canvasing round there :o ::) :P
sure i can under cut n still make a good prof.... wot u think ::) ;)
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im about 30mins from camb, per happs will do a bit of canvasing round there :o ::) :P
sure i can under cut n still make a good prof.... wot u think ::) ;)
hitman is houses between £15-£75 tidy like if u need a hand giza shout ;)
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lol ;D we will clean up ;D u could stay at mine 4 the week... rent free :o even more prof :D
we would soon b millyon ares dell haha
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lovely jubby rodders im serious id travel 4 money like that
or stop over simples work canvass n more work = dollar
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Ive bought so much work over the years for 5 or 6 cleans that this at first seems expensive,
however if work that makes you £150 a day is worth 6 cleans then why should work you can do £500 on be worth the same.
Surely it makes sense that a product twice as good should be worth twice as much let alone one that is three times as good, all of myou idiots putting a 5x ceiling price on work need your heads looking at
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Ive bought so much work over the years for 5 or 6 cleans that this at first seems expensive,
however if work that makes you £150 a day is worth 6 cleans then why should work you can do £500 on be worth the same.
Surely it makes sense that a product twice as good should be worth twice as much let alone one that is three times as good, all of myou idiots putting a 5x ceiling price on work need your heads looking at
if u ave bought so much work over the years @ 5/6 cleans, n ur sayin its such a good deal
y dont u buy it? pay the 30k then go get ur head checked :P
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i dont need to buy it but if i needed the work i most certainly would consider it, i would build it up then work two days a week for a grand a week, that would of sounded great to me when i first started
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still a lot of money 4 some 1 2 try n borrow in these hard times ??? money like that would set u bk
about £1,400/£1,500 pcm over 24months :o not 2many people would want that round there necks :-\
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i agree but if you borrowed over 10 years on a business loan would cost you £300 a month, so work 5 hours a month for nothing and spend your other 145 hours in the month making a fortune !
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if only was that easy hey ;D
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I wonder if mattywig and crystalWindowClean are the same people. Maybe he posted his own questions on the ebay bit as well. I dont know he not been a member that long and he is touting a round for 30k to us.
This might be the real hustle at it again, they realised how much people hand over for there windows, now there have come up with a new plan. ;D
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all ebay comments posted on the 24th this thread started 23rd at almost 11pm. Ummm! Then dead for two days, Ummm! Until I see a 25k bid on there I am unconvinced.
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all ebay comments posted on the 24th this thread started 23rd at almost 11pm. Ummm! Then dead for two days, Ummm! Until I see a 25k bid on there I am unconvinced.
sounds rather fishy 2me2.... he didnt nic 1off the back of ur boat did he? ;Dlol
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funny how the bidding is only £285
far 2 much money :o :o :o
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im so interested in how this all ends :) ive never been on bay b4.... but its still
at the same price ??? ::) haha ;D
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ahh but they always dive in at the last minute, to get the best price! :D
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ahh but they always dive in at the last minute, to get the best price! :D
oh ::) so it really could go through the roof at the last min..... bugger! i was gonna
ave a bid on it2 :( ......... haha just thought we will all look a bit silly if he gets top dolla :o
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Your are mistaking us for the buyer ;D
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matty - what happens if the round doesn't go for 30 grand ? will you still sell it, as you will be bound by ebay rules to sell it,
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How much does ebay take on thirty grand?
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it does not say "advertised elsewhere buyer has the right to withdraw" the winner has entered into a legal contract with the seller so may be able to seek compensation
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I was reading through some of his feedback and ebay, he bought a Ebook on how to start your own carpet cleaning business. Maybe you should of the bought the how to sell your window cleaning business first.
FYI WindowCleaningRoundForSale
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does anyone know if matty is a JW, because he yes better means yes, when his round goes foe cheap on ebay. ;D
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JW?
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I still dont get how he insists he won't sell for less than £30,000 when there is no reserve price ??? ??? ???
If someone offers max £2,000, then he has to sell surely!
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he is a total prat ;D ;D ;D
i think he does not understand ebay yes he has to sell at the final price
up 2 £10020
i think he will trot it up which is not allowed ;D ;D ;D
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leagaly, an auction is a contract between the seller and the winning bidder. he has offered it for auction so when the winning bid is not honoured he is breaking the contract. therefore the winner can seek compansation for this. you are not meant to withdraw the item either, even if you do put a disclaimer once the auction is underway you cannot remove it.
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This is absolutely hilarious to read I couldn't have thought of a better response to selling my work! Yes I am a JW and my yes most certainly means Yes. Yes I won't sell work this good for less than the £30k and Yes I will be most definitely be ending the auction early regardless of what price it is up too. (unless it's £40k!!!) ;D ;D
I specifically have laid down my terms in the description of the price and to phone me if interested. I am showing two buyers round next week and I anticipate it will be on a first to see will buy basis. But thanks for all the input it's been priceless!!! ;D ;D
Im going to take it all onboard and sell my work for 10k instead of 30k and accept the fact that Im an idiot and you are all genius! LOL
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i am not a genius and have no interest in how much you want or get for your round, but i suggest you read ebays rules and terms of contract. as i stated if you end early or do not honour the winning bid you are breaking a legal contract. if i was the winner then i would be claiming compensation for breach of contract. just offering advice but obviously you feel you dont need any from us cheapo window cleaners
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This is absolutely hilarious to read I couldn't have thought of a better response to selling my work! Yes I am a JW and my yes most certainly means Yes. Yes I won't sell work this good for less than the £30k and Yes I will be most definitely be ending the auction early regardless of what price it is up too. (unless it's £40k!!!) ;D ;D
I specifically have laid down my terms in the description of the price and to phone me if interested. I am showing two buyers round next week and I anticipate it will be on a first to see will buy basis. But thanks for all the input it's been priceless!!! ;D ;D
Im going to take it all onboard and sell my work for 10k instead of 30k and accept the fact that Im an idiot and you are all genius! LOL
So why didnt you list it as a 'Buy it Now' item ??? ???
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time waster ;D ;D ;D ;D
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S Gibson are you per chance a traffic warden? ;D ;D ;D
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from the ebay terms:
Ending a listing early for the following reasons is prohibited as it is considered fee avoidance:
Cancelling bids and ending a listing early because the reserve price hasn't been met to avoid reserve fees. See Reserve Price Policy.
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Cancelling bids and ending a listing early in order to sell the item off-eBay. You should be aware that as well as avoiding fees, you risk fraud by selling items off the eBay website. If a member writes to you to ask you to sell away from the eBay website, please report them to us..
no but one thing i am not is a smug geezer who wont listen to advice from others,
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Thanks for the ebay rules S Gibson I'll bear them in mind. Incidentally are you interested in my round? ;D ;D
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yeah i will bid on it. i am sure you will honour the winning bid as its law.
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he is a total prat ;D ;D ;D
i think he does not understand ebay yes he has to sell at the final price
up 2 £10020
i think he will trot it up which is not allowed ;D ;D ;D
Yep,
I`m with Glen on this (Well the bold bit anyway)lol!
The other thing they used to do was have the auction, & have 2 mates snap it up at the last minute, if things looked like they were not heading to the right amount, & presumably make out the transaction was carried out outside of ebay, & cut their losses. :)
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yeah i will bid on it. i am sure you will honour the winning bid as its law.
Me too!! It could be a real bargain seeing as the guy was looking for 30 grand ;)
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yeah i will bid on it. i am sure you will honour the winning bid as its law.
Me too!! It could be a real bargain seeing as the guy was looking for 30 grand ;)
hang on we dont want to bid against each other. we will sit it out and have a private auction afterwards. by the way thats illegal too but obviosly that dont matter ;D
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yeah i will bid on it. i am sure you will honour the winning bid as its law.
Me too!! It could be a real bargain seeing as the guy was looking for 30 grand ;)
hang on we dont want to bid against each other. we will sit it out and have a private auction afterwards. by the way thats illegal too but obviosly that dont matter ;D
Well I will do the bidding and then split half the round with you for half of what I paid. Then we could re-auction it for maybe 30 grand!
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some people are sad a round is worth 5 x max and your mug if you pay more and our a joker if you sell for more.
grow up get ot of your bubble and believe, people say its only good will but its more secure than a shop or cafe or garage has its REGULAR WORK, yes you may lose some but any one with the right business brains will replace them customers.
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Hitman you sound really scary!! ;D ;D
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allright i got bored reading this at page two, but its pretty simple a round is worth what someone is willing to pay. if your buying it will be as little as you can pay and if selling as much as you can get. simple really ::)
good luck selling and well done for building that small round up and for selling at a price you are happy with.
ive probably missed the point of the other umpteen pages ive not read but hey ho hope you get the asking price you want
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so putting your item on ebay in binding you into a contract, this mean if you end it early because it hasnt got to your magical 30 grand, you will be breaking the law, if you dont sell it to that person.
This means you wont be making your yes mean yes!
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HEY EVERY1! B4 U EVEN THING ABOUT GOING 4 THIS ROUND.....
CLICK ON MATTYWIG PROFILE N GO 2WHERE IT SHOWS U ALL HIS POSTS.
CHECK OUT no.90 ON PAGE 5....... VERY INTERESTING :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D SAME AREA HEY MATTYWIG????
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hey hitman you need to be careful .............
Had a customer whose wife paid one of my staff at the back of the house and he paid me in his shop attached to the premises. The lad on the backs gave me the money at the end of the day but couldn't remember whi it was off. Next month the guy comes to the door full of hell saying he has paid twice. I apologize profusely explaining the mistake and how it happenened and gave him his ten pounds back. He then despite my apology and refund called me a f*****g thief so I lost it and told him where to go. He replied that he was a millionaire and wouldn't be talked to like that by a window cleaner coz we are the lowest and that he would arrange to have my legs broken. I told him that the difference was that he would have to pay to have my legs broken but I could do his for him myself! It was a stupid thing to say but i was fuming. I was chewed up and later vowed that I would never have a blow out with a customer again like that as it served no purpose other than to leave me chewed to bits. I always try to leave any complaint on a happy peaceful note now and feel much happier for it!!!!
watch those legs ;D
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lo ste m, i get wot ur sayin m8, i just dont like smug. we r all windys here helpin each other.
n thats how it should b ;D sorry if i affended any1, it was not my intension ::) my bad, soz
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lo ste m, i get wot ur sayin m8, i just dont like smug. we r all windys here helpin each other.
n thats how it should b ;D sorry if i affended any1, it was not my intension ::) my bad, soz
no mate thats one of his previous posts as well, not me saying it haha. I would just leave him be, sounds a good round he has but its only worth what someone will pay for it, would i pay 30k for it? no i dont think so but someone else may. i do like his attitude though. I think i found a pick of him on the net ;D
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lol ;D pmsl ;D nice 1 ste m ;)
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The picture is awesome how did you know I was in the TA?! This has just been a bit of good banter for me never meant offend anyone.
I just thought Id let everyone know my work was for sale and what I wanted for it didn't expect a barrage of abuse for doing that but I think Ive taken it well and just chilled out and enjoyed the banter!
Hope you are all doing the same and for your information ebay has sent me a notification saying it is going to remove my listing unless I add a reserve fee of £30000 as stated in my ad so I think Ive been grassed up!!
Never mind think Id be best relisting it with a buy it now if it doesn't sell next week.
S Gibson Im awaiting your told you so! That ebay rule book you keep in the toilet has come in handy! :'(
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round still for sale for ebay, ;D
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so just because i am new to this forum means i am in cohoots with the seller ;D ;D, i cant wait till im a clean it up god like you lot so i can have my 2 penneth without being called real hustle, i think not only is sgibson a traffic warden he is also a failed netballer and sunday league referee, if he went on big brother hed have to fight vinnie for the rulebook !
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so just because i am new to this forum means i am in cohoots with the seller ;D ;D, i cant wait till im a clean it up god like you lot so i can have my 2 penneth without being called real hustle, i think not only is sgibson a traffic warden he is also a failed netballer and sunday league referee, if he went on big brother hed have to fight vinnie for the rulebook !
so what is your problem with me then. cant i express an opinion, i have not made one personal coment about you, i just offered some advice.
just another internet warrior yawnnnnnnnnn
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the whole idea as far as i can see is to comment on what other people have wrote, and this was my thoughts on what you wrote, or have i broke the rules ? im sure you know them inside out ;)
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What a joy to read. If he gets what he wants and someone is prepared to pay that, then good luck to the seller. The choice of getting 3x 5x 10x ..... I know what I'd prefer. And I'd think there would be lots of liers on here if they didn't want the higher.
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comment on what people have writen not the people. cant even remember reading anything you wrote so i dont understand why you single me out. maybe you think i am one of the elite yeah right i should think so. i dont think there is any love lost between me and the clique that run things on here. pehaps if you read some back posts you would see how i operate. instead of making stupid glib comments. i wouldnt say no if someone offered me that sort of cash for my round. i think you are assuming i made comments out of envy then you dont know me, fr
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The picture is awesome how did you know I was in the TA?! This has just been a bit of good banter for me never meant offend anyone.
I just thought Id let everyone know my work was for sale and what I wanted for it didn't expect a barrage of abuse for doing that but I think Ive taken it well and just chilled out and enjoyed the banter!
Hope you are all doing the same and for your information ebay has sent me a notification saying it is going to remove my listing unless I add a reserve fee of £30000 as stated in my ad so I think Ive been grassed up!!
Never mind think Id be best relisting it with a buy it now if it doesn't sell next week.
S Gibson Im awaiting your told you so! That ebay rule book you keep in the toilet has come in handy! :'(
Tragic :'(
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still watching it :P £2738.55 :o
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trot trot ;D ;D ;D
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??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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have you looked at the bidders
there are 5 of them
4 are strange bidders !!!!!1
2 at 0 - feedback
1at 1 feedback
1 at 2 feedback
and 1 at 113 feedback
:o :o
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oh yer ;D its the 1st thing ive ever looked at on ebay, still dont know my way round it lol
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The picture is awesome how did you know I was in the TA?! This has just been a bit of good banter for me never meant offend anyone.
I just thought Id let everyone know my work was for sale and what I wanted for it didn't expect a barrage of abuse for doing that but I think Ive taken it well and just chilled out and enjoyed the banter!
Hope you are all doing the same and for your information ebay has sent me a notification saying it is going to remove my listing unless I add a reserve fee of £30000 as stated in my ad so I think Ive been grassed up!!
Never mind think Id be best relisting it with a buy it now if it doesn't sell next week.
S Gibson Im awaiting your told you so! That ebay rule book you keep in the toilet has come in handy! :'(
Soooo how comes it is not stating "reserve not met" under the bidding price ???
Or are you regarding it as void & leaving it in Ebays hands now to cancel it? ???
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but he has 2sell it at wot ever the top bid is....... dont he ???
my m8 said thats how it is as there is no reserve ???
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unless he withdraws it
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but he has 2sell it at wot ever the top bid is....... dont he ???
my m8 said thats how it is as there is no reserve ???
Hi Hitman,
It should do really, but according to Mattywig, Ebay are going to remove the listing unless he adds a reserve, so if he does not add a reserve, & Ebay don`t remove the listing & it sells, then presumably Ebay will be at fault.
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but he has not added a reserve on it from the start so it cant be added after there has been a bid on it so he may be in the poo poo
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Hi Hitman,
It should do really, but according to Mattywig, Ebay are going to remove the listing unless he adds a reserve, so if he does not add a reserve, & Ebay don`t remove the listing & it sells, then presumably Ebay will be at fault.
thanks Ian75n. but i put the ick in thick ::) so does that mean the top bidder still
wins n gets it even if he only bid say £4,500??????
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but he has not added a reserve on it from the start so it cant be added after there has been a bid on it so he may be in the poo poo
O.M.G thats gotta b worth watchin now ;D as the work is about an hour from me ;D
still say its only worth £12,500/£15,000
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Hi Hitman,
It should do really, but according to Mattywig, Ebay are going to remove the listing unless he adds a reserve, so if he does not add a reserve, & Ebay don`t remove the listing & it sells, then presumably Ebay will be at fault.
thanks Ian75n. but i put the ick in thick ::) so does that mean the top bidder still
wins n gets it even if he only bid say £4,500??????
Hi Hitman
I`m not absolutely sure, but Wezzy has a point about needing to put the reserve on from the start before bids are placed, so maybe he is still in the brown stuff.
Don`t you just love terms & conditions on these things.
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its all well over my head Ian75n :P :-\
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im watching it now.but he could get a m8 to put a bid on it?
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its all well over my head Ian75n :P :-\
that aint hard :P
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its all well over my head Ian75n :P :-\
that aint hard :P
u aint me m8 ;D
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e wont sell it 4 30k lad also look at it
works in cambs e in durham now e drives it lad
its not dean tab u no i aint aving it iv read most ov his posts
not rite also a jw say no more 8)
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if the he doesnt sell to the winning bidder they can dispue it but nothing will happen he will give is reason for withdrawing, do you really think ebay WILL MAKE HIM SELL IT FOR SAY £4500??
its not law either its ebay rules there very different ::)
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he will just have to pay ebay fees thats all.
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never mind ebay rules or the law, he is under a higher law as a JW and as he knows and as someone else quoted his yes has to mean yes, or does Matty not beleive this.
I still think its fraud, as after a winning bidder pays on paypal and he doesnt hand over the "goods" or round imo
But the JW law is fact and could end up as a very serious issue for Matty his relationship with God or his wife etc
You never know it might go for the 30k
Idealrob
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what a bunch of numpties u lot r if its to much dont buy it.
Something is only as valuable as one is willing to pay and using someones religion to pull them apart is just proving how simple minded some of u r.
good luck selling. funny thing jealousy hey!
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hey whizzz 30k r u 4 real n numpties
u go clean it wage free 4 a year
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OK now I get what JW means WTF?
less that two hours to go, he is getting 2x the monthly average at the mo ;D
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its on a one hour countdown clock at the mo. Its the last 5 mins that are interesting though, but will matty hold his water or withdraw it early. I think he has slept in, he is not online :o
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lets face it he has used ebay as a cheap way of selling, personally i would have used a firm specialising in selling business this way you could have got a good price without the hassle.
speaking to a friend last night who happens to be in the legal profession, she says that if the winning bidder wants to take it further he has some legal backing, he is not going to get the round but may get some compensation and matwigs is going to have a legal bill to pay.
when you look at other business's 30k investment is not unheard off. there is a market stall for sale near me 14k then a bill of 5 k to the council for checks and changeover. so 19k for an empty stall 10 k of stock then hope you take money. if you see the round as an assett then if you do the round for 5 years and sell for what you paid its not bad.
if i was to invest in this i would have a legal contract drawn up to limit the seller from working in the areas for 5 years. also no contact between him and the customers. i mean you could sell a round and then carry on in the area and pick up the ones you sold.
if you want such a high some for a round its time to sell it as a sucessfull business not something on ebay
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wow, 19,900!
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lol yeah newbie no feedback and only bidding on that item. whats that smell. i think the kingdom hall have a strange value on things like this ;D
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troting it ;D ;D
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I don't see what all the fuss is about. There is no hard and fast rule about how much a business is worth as it's worth what the buyer wants to pay. A franchise could easily cost you that or more with no guarantee of business. I personally don't buy work but can see how it would appeal to someone starting out. Of course you would need to check everything very carefully before parting with any money!
Rod
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a good business is worth good money. but ebay is not the place to sell it.
they are gonna get an earner out of it best part of a couple of grand i think
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27,050 If he gets more than 30k he wont mind paying it ;D thats if its not his bid ;D
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it will hit 30,000 no doubt to keep within the rules but ebay still want the money forthe auction
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Nope it ended there, and if thats a legitimate bid I would sell at that.
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£27,050, he nearly got 30 grand, aslong as he sells it and makes his yes mean yes, then it will be alright.
Well done matty for holding out and getting that much
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All the bidders with zero feedback,looks to me like he was bumping the price up himself (shill bidding)
Wouldn't surprise me if we see this being relisted afterwards!
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all i can say is i hope the winning buyer is genuine....coz you are now gonna get a big bill from fleabay.......dont know exactly how much, but its in the hundreds ::)
you can file a non payer dispute if he aint genuine so you dont end up getting stung.
if he is genuine i think even with the fees you need to deduct you will still have at leask 26 grand left from the sale.....and i would be extremely happy with that amount for that work.........(popping open the bubbly happy).......whens the party? ;D
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Real or not, don't you all think that a GOOD round is worth more than the 4x
I was speaking to a window cleaner who is in his 60's and wants to sell up.
He wants about 16,000 for it. the round must be 20yrs and the pricing is good as well.
I know when the day comes to selling up i will push for the max , who would'nt.
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Real or not, don't you all think that a GOOD round is worth more than the 4x
I was speaking to a window cleaner who is in his 60's and wants to sell up.
He wants about 16,000 for it. the round must be 20yrs and the pricing is good as well.
I know when the day comes to selling up i will push for the max , who would'nt.
A good well priced round that has been worked for more than 5 or 6 years, i would probably pay more than 4 x's the monthly. Less than 5 years, i may as well pay roundbuilders 2 x to carry on and canvass for me.