Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: creighton foyle on February 23, 2010, 04:30:28 pm
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anyone use it ? is it as good as the website says it is ?, what are the pros and cons ?
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Hand on heart.
Superb on low profiles.
Great problem solver on domestics (typically access or shrinkage problems)
Too expensive in use on domestics (Can't usually have a clear >20 sqM to use one pads worth of chemical economically).
It's the most profitable system I have. Takings of £1000 per day for me and one assistant quite achievable on maintenance work, slightly more on occasional one-off cleans. A three man team can really achieve high earnings on large area office jobs.
Safe and happy cleaning :)
The Ken
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Good post by ken..
I have got to agree and today i did a large office with other rooms off it and did it with my fusion clean and buffer and pads,got a good days wage from it today.
You can cover so much area with the l m systems and less tiring.
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clinton
invite me along next time ;)
see how the pro's do it.
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Derek ;D
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Big problem is, if you don't have a license they wont supply you with Activator etc. Dry Fusion are based in the next town to me, and they wont issue any more local licenses.
Dave.
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Get an activator style product from someone else who may have a solution ;)
Shaun
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The solution is closer then you think.
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But is it as good as Activator, I know its a lot cheaper.
Rab
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i'm not arguing the good or bad points of dry-fusion as i have never used one or even seen one in action but i run a tm and have an rx, as this is a rotary spinning machine but with constant rinse water instead of changing pads, what would be the benefit for someone like me? surely in essence they do the same job?
colin
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yep ring Craftex they do a copy of DF called catalyst they certainly will have the solution or you could try a product called fusion clean from Solutions UK or perhaps Rotobrite2 from Chemspec
I personally think I could equal the results achieved with DF by using a number of other chemicals so why pay over the odds for the gimmick of a heated pad.
by the way anyone read Shaun Bradburys article in cleaning matters this month? I certainly agreed with his point of some companies over selling the abilities of their own chemicals, I wonder who he was referring too?
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does nobody use both methods then? i would be interested in dry method if there is an advantage over wet with rx,
colin
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yep ring Craftex they do a copy of DF called catalyst they certainly will have the solution or you could try a product called fusion clean from Solutions UK or perhaps Rotobrite2 from Chemspec
I personally think I could equal the results achieved with DF by using a number of other chemicals so why pay over the odds for the gimmick of a heated pad.
by the way anyone read Shaun Bradburys article in cleaning matters this month? I certainly agreed with his point of some companies over selling the abilities of their own chemicals, I wonder who he was referring too?
Looking at your middle paragraph - perhaps himself ?
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colin, alot of people don't agree with me here and thats fine but i often bonnet after cleaning with the truckmount when needed, and believe me or not but i do get improvements in certain circumstances, especially on traffic areas and near seats, settees etc...
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How would a cimex encap machine compare to dry fusion on low profile office carpets?
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thanks derek,
colin
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Gary.
Good question , earnings wise I would say better with up to 300 sq mtr per hour capability, not bad even at £1.00 per mtre.
Not having used d/f myself i cannot give an honest asessmet , how ever i do know that encap results are superb and instant with the added benifit of continual protection . and all of my commercial customers like the benifits.
Infact i,m just about to start a push for more commercial, had a load of brochure style leaflets printed aimed purly at commercial and encapsulation system, I will be visiting personaly premesis ,brochure in hand offering free demo if required .
geoff
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I had dry fusion about 7 or 8 years ago and it was over sold IMO it's fantastic for carpet tiles and low profiles but from a domestic carpet point of view you need to HWE as the kind of soiling is different.
Derek I still low moisture clean but don't use or need a dry fusion machine I didn't think the heat from the buffer made much difference although the heavy buffer was excellent at cleaning.
Shaun
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Just seen on US Encap forum a photo of a conversion.
Takes a standard rotary, add the conversion and makes it a 3 head like the Cimex, but without the wheels.
$600 dollars I think it was.
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Not sure I would like that Joe, the wheels make the cimex easier to move around in my opinion. I can imagine it being alot more difficult to push and pull the machine around.
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i had a cimex when it was owned by cimex had problems with controlling
the water flow so was prone to overwetting like most other shampoo grvity fed machines.
in the market myself for a low moisture system Alan from swindon reccomends
the thermodry from Craftex which is a bit cheaper
some how not sure i can justify the extra money for a heated plate set underneath a Dowding and plummer Rotary??
Thats (victor) of Birmingham
sold my dry fusion as was focusing mostly on domestic at the time where if felt it was limited and the stairs you had to do with a hand mit or terry towels
Filtration stains round edges was an issue too
but for commercial wish i still had it..
but wondering could i achieve the same with a Haevy duty Rotary over 55Kg in weight .
Nicks cleaner looked very promising to me..
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Hi Karl
Not sure how you can have problems controlling a Cimex.
I assume you are talking about the 3 headed Cimex?
They are the most user friendly rotary I have ever used, you can let go of the handles and it hardly moves off its spot.
As for overwetting - solution is only released from its tank when YOU pull the trigger. Overwetting has to be an operator error.
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got to agree with joe on this one ,
never been a problem overwetting ,
Were you keeping the valve open all the time ? it would appear so
geoff
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I have a Dry Fusion setup (bought second hand), but I only normally use it for commercial jobs. For domestic jobs I always HWE, but having said that, I did a low profile poly today with the DF and it came up great.
Pete
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pete
hows the leather work coming along?
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Hi Derek, Yes, I'm doing a bit more leather work now, mainly down to referrals I receive from LTT. As yet hav'nt done a full sofa restoration, but have down several minor repairs. Recently had to repair some cushions off a £5K white sofa (from Harrods), there were at least 50 cat scratches on each cushion !! - customer was well pleased with the result. Got a couple of referrals on the go which may result in a full restoration.
What do you charge for a full colour restoration, per seat??
Good to see that you are doing well and expanding.
cheers,
Pete