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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: cater on February 22, 2010, 09:06:19 pm
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need to employ someone, any suggestions on th best way, ie, self employed or full time on the books? how would you pay, hourly, daily or weekly rate. dont think weekly would be good especially bearing in mind recent weather. any help would be gratefully received.
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Part time is the best way for a lot of small set ups your helper can work upto 15 hrs per week and as long as he doesn,t go above £110/15 there is no tax/ni payable by yr helper and yrself providing he aint got another part time job.
have a word with yr accountant /tax office he will put you straight on it
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does her have to contact dole office to cover urself .not being sarcy . its just in case i take someone on thanks
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i would check with the dole about the employer paying tax, if under a certain amount, as i know the employee doesnt.
also you have to take in to consideration, if only part time work, would it be worth it to them, if they where on benefits, they might lose more than that, as unless they work a mim of 16 i they wont get any thing and are better off on the dole
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This is the problem.... i know lots of peple who wont work part time or full time.....because the benefits they will lose outweigh the wages,
and why would they want to spend all week grafting when they can doss at home all day,
Thats the mentality of most young people these days.
dont kid yourself that this is the lost generation with no work for them.... there is,
but todays society has produced a generation of lazy,sponge off parents,..... bed all day is king..... do nothing...
youth.
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This is the problem.... i know lots of peple who wont work part time or full time.....because the benefits they will lose outweigh the wages,
and why would they want to spend all week grafting when they can doss at home all day,
Thats the mentality of most young people these days.
dont kid yourself that this is the lost generation with no work for them.... there is,
but todays society has produced a generation of lazy,sponge off parents,..... bed all day is king..... do nothing...
youth.
I think that's all to do with the government and there tax system that's responsible for that no just lazzy youths, I have met many from a wide range of generations that have found themselfs in the same shoes. The government make it harder to employee someone full time than part time and when they loss that job and find out the get the same from the brew what would you do. Stay on the brew until I could get a full time job.
Cater I know loads of windies that just use subbies and its easiest but bear in mind they will have work else where and you might find they are inevitably competing for your business, unless you agree not to work there area. Also if you have a fall out, they will most likely go after your work. You leave yourself out there allot with this method.
I would suggest doing it properly, just going by your question and I could be wrong but do more research, talk to an accountant and see what they might charge for doing your payroll, annual returns etc and factor all that in. Look at employers liability insurance, public liability insurance, employers national insurance contributions. Cost of systems like sage payroll if you are going to try it yourself. Factor in holidays, and sick days as well as bad weather.
Window cleaning is also a difficult business because its time orientated, and basically piece work, and getting a percent of a window to equal minimum wage is very difficult, and time collecting, and travelling between jobs has to be factored in as well, because if they are not getting paid a fair wage they wont work for you. So I would say look at paying them a salary, on the agreement, that if they have to be off one day due weather then do more hours the next then that is part of the job.
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all so, if you get some one who is self employed, but they only get there work from you the gov class them as employed now