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Title: fuel weight
Post by: daz1977 on February 18, 2010, 08:05:14 pm
just checking really,  if the weight that i can carry in a van, included fuel or not  ie ford escort 550 kg  does this include 50 lites of fuel or 550 + 50 litres of fuel
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on February 18, 2010, 08:09:15 pm
just checking really,  if the weight that i can carry in a van, included fuel or not  ie ford escort 550 kg  does this include 50 lites of fuel or 550 + 50 litres of fuel


what van is it?




Matt
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: daz1977 on February 18, 2010, 08:12:19 pm
ford escort 55  decided not to go with the berlingo
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: rg1 on February 18, 2010, 08:14:00 pm
The gross weight of a vehicle includes fuel. Kerb weight is how much cargo you can carry including passengers.

Rob
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on February 18, 2010, 08:20:17 pm
Kerb weight is the weight of the vehicle without passengers or cargo.



Matt
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on February 18, 2010, 08:21:16 pm
I have the escort 55 and my payload limit is 650kg.





Matt
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: daz1977 on February 18, 2010, 08:24:54 pm
i am looking at at web site

http://www.carbuyingservices.co.uk/fordescortvans.html

that gives weights and i am confused as hell lol
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: rg1 on February 18, 2010, 08:25:34 pm
Kerb weight is the weight of the vehicle without passengers or cargo.



Matt

Yeh sorry Matt. I meant the difference between gross and kerb (it's been a long day) ;)
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on February 18, 2010, 08:29:21 pm
MAX gross weight can be found on the VIN plate, usually under the bonnet. The MGW is shown in KG's and usually the number below the Chassis Number.

So for eg;

MGW - 2000
Un-laden weight - 1400

This means, The vehicle, as it was built weighs in at 1400. Which means you can add 600 in water, tools, body weight, roof rack, ladders etc.

The MGW is the final weight, there is no le-way in it. If you are taken to the weigh bridge and it comes in at 2010 then you can be 'done'

However, not sure if the un-laden weight includes an allowance for a full tank of diesel?
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on February 18, 2010, 08:33:39 pm
go on the maximum gross weight of 1700kg
I have a 350 litre tank, 4 poles, one hose real, one backpack, one battery, my trad kit in a bucket, plus tools and scrims and 3/4 tank of fuel etc.
I went to the weighbridge last week and weighed the van with myself inside and 300 litres of water and it came to 1680kg total.




Matt
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: Spruce on February 19, 2010, 03:11:13 pm


However, not sure if the un-laden weight includes an allowance for a full tank of diesel?
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Allowance is never made for a full tank of diesel. If it did it would look bad on the promotional figures.
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: daz1977 on February 19, 2010, 03:24:35 pm
there is a sticker in side my van that says this vehicle can carry 550 kg this include driver passenger and load, nothing about fuel
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on February 19, 2010, 03:45:55 pm
Passangers and fuel count as load, so you have to take that into consideration when working out how much payload you have left, whether to only fill half a tank of diesel or not have that extra sandwich ;D.

Simon.
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: Gleaming windows on February 19, 2010, 03:51:46 pm
You also need to take into consideration A/C. An A/C unit is heavy and they do not allow for this.

Dont you just love it when its clear as mud and its technical and there's a legal connotation wrapped up in it all.
Title: Re: fuel weight
Post by: mileslake on February 19, 2010, 03:58:40 pm
don't forget the different axle weights, as you can be under the total max but overloaded on one of the axles.