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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: herbiefatboy on February 16, 2010, 07:07:16 pm

Title: help
Post by: herbiefatboy on February 16, 2010, 07:07:16 pm
After a long winter and van going wrong i will have to lay staff off what are the conequences.any help would be great
Title: Re: help
Post by: DaveG on February 16, 2010, 07:20:25 pm
What sort of contract are they on ...how long they been with you??

Cant you keep them on "part time"?
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Post by: herbiefatboy on February 16, 2010, 07:24:40 pm
they have no contract and he has been with me 2 years part time it just that every time he seems to go out he brake something and it costs i just seem to be working to keep him.
Title: Re: help
Post by: herbiefatboy on February 17, 2010, 05:00:56 pm
oh dear
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Post by: simon knight on February 17, 2010, 05:14:04 pm
Quote from: herbiefatboy on February 16, 2010, 07:24:40 pm
they have no contract and he has been with me 2 years part time it just that every time he seems to go out he brake something and it costs i just seem to be working to keep him.

I don't follow. Do you employ one person or more than one?
Title: Re: help
Post by: herbiefatboy on February 17, 2010, 05:23:17 pm
one person
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Post by: simon knight on February 17, 2010, 05:33:51 pm

Ok.

If he has no contract then I'm assuming you're paying him cash-in-hand (no tax  ;))...don't feel obliged to confirm or deny this as this is a public forum and could be read by anyone!

But if it is cash-in-hand then you can sack him tonight and he will have absolutely no legal come back.
Title: Re: help
Post by: herbiefatboy on February 17, 2010, 06:39:38 pm
no he does pay tax he is not cash in hand
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Post by: Ian Lancaster on February 17, 2010, 07:00:06 pm
I think you're in the brown sticky stuff anyway - isn't it illegal to employ without giving your employee a contract?
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Post by: simon knight on February 17, 2010, 07:20:34 pm
Quote from: Ian Lancaster on February 17, 2010, 07:00:06 pm
I think you're in the brown sticky stuff anyway - isn't it illegal to employ without giving your employee a contract?

I'm not 100% sure you're right Ian. If you work for somebody with no contract then that is an understanding by both sides...no notice!  I don't think it's a legal requirement to employ and HAVE to give a contract.
Title: Re: help
Post by: dai on February 17, 2010, 07:21:40 pm
One in three teenage school leavers are out of work, and I bet there are lots of us that could provide work for some of them.
Health and safety rules and regs, employment regs, insurance regs,
There are just so many regs, regs, regs, It's just not worth the hassle of employing, you need a full time rules and regs interpreter, he/she would have to be your first employee.
Title: Re: help
Post by: herbiefatboy on February 17, 2010, 07:30:43 pm
well said dai i do admire people who employ and make it work.
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Post by: Jack Wallace on February 17, 2010, 07:55:43 pm
It IS a legal requirement to provided an employee with a contract.

I know this as fact as have just been to tribunal with an ex empoyee over a diferent matter and was almost fined the equivelent of 2 months wages (his) for not providing one.

However as I had an understanding judge who realized said empoyee was trying to take me for a ride he found in my favour, and ignored the contract also.

Phewwwww. I dont mind addmiting I had a few sleepless nights beforehand. Having said that I still employ and will continue to do so. I am just more careful now.  ;)