Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Paul Sk on February 11, 2010, 07:54:09 pm
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I am new to window cleaning and would be greatfull for any advice as to how high to go. I have a 3m x3 ladder and feel ok at first floor windows. Second floor/attic room windows feel a bit high for safty. Any advice?
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i never went over 1st floor m8, never needed 2. plenty of work out there
with out pushing ya luck ;)
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If it dont feel safe then dont do it. Try and stick with 1st floor windows.
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Ive done 2nd floor but dont feel comfortble doing so so dont do them any more, just remember falling from 2nd floor you dont have much chance off walking away from it or walking again, not worth it m8 stick with 1st floor
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price the higher jobs up accordingly , to include money for your buddy footing the ladder and AT least triple normal money. i find then those higher jobs are good money
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top rung face on glass full stretch ;D ;D
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I am new to window cleaning and would be greatfull for any advice as to how high to go. I have a 3m x3 ladder and feel ok at first floor windows. Second floor/attic room windows feel a bit high for safty. Any advice?
Well lets see 12 years ago i was doing 3 story ladder slipped off bay i fell back as i come down about (300 mph) my body turned my head hit a wall broke my fall i suffered 1 broken ligament in hip, no skin to the fore head my knee's are shot but i was one of the lucky one's stick to the first story ,m8 :-)
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ive a 3.6 double and thats the limit,although one job i pole off the top of the ladder when its not windy
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dont risk it for a few quid .dont get me wrong we all done some stupid things .that even the circus people would mavel at .but broken bones mean no money comming in
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Thanks for all your coments. I will stick to 1st floor only. Can't afford any hospital time! Happy cleaning!
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AS far as I know with out some footing the ladder you may go to first floor only for short time. 2 nd floor you must have some one foot the ladder as the on your own is deemed as unsafe. But read this web page its got all on the matter and be sure you are safe,dont take our word for your safety.
http://www.windowcleaningresources.co.uk/html/health_and_safety.html
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go as high as you want . just dont forget your parachute ;D
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Don't be a mug for a few quid, get a ladder stability device, GO WATER FED POLE ASAP. If you come of the ladder at height mate the chances are you going to do yourself some serious damage or god forbid kill yourself. Go as high as you are comfortable only. Good luck
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top rung face on glass full stretch ;D ;D
;D Ah the memories.
I used to ask the customers to keep certain windows open so I have something to grab hold of lol
Matt
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I do the same when cleaning very large windows as i am a short a-se
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I used to ask the customers to keep certain windows open so I have something to grab hold of lol
Matt
DON'T DO IT. If you are standing on a ladder, and you hold on to part of the building you will exert a sideways pressure with your feet on the ladder and could cause it to slip in the opposite direction from the side where you are holding on. You should ONLY hold on to the ladder, that way you won't cause any adverse thrust with your feet.
THINK ABOUT IT if you hold on to (say) the frame of a fanlight then part of your weight is supported by that hand - you reach (even just a short distance) across with the other hand, your feet will tend to push on the ladder the opposite way. You could easily finish up with the ladder falling away to that side and you hanging by one hand from the fanlight.
I KNOW - I'VE DONE IT ::)
Luckily my son was with me and he set the ladder up again so I could get back on to it.
It only takes a split second, I knew better than to do that but a momentary lapse is all it takes.....
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Industry to date was 9m
However if you apply Statutory Law the following info should help
When can ladders be used?
Ladders can be used if after assessing the risks the use of more suitable work equipment is not justified because of the low risk and short duration.
You can refer to Working at height Regulations 2005
Section 7 Selection of equipment
Regulation 8(e) REQUIREMENTS FOR LADDERS Schedule 6
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si2005/20050735.htm#7
Also visit the HSE website
http://www.hse.gov.uk/falls/ladders.htm
You can also Google the HSE inspector’s guidance pack online
This is a document that HSE inspectors refer to when visiting sites
HSE TOPIC INSPECTION PACK 2007
In this document they refer that it will be unlikely that after risk assessing that ladders will be suitable over first floor
9 out of ten times water fed pole is going to be the safest method of accessing domestic windows
I would also recommend investing in ladder training
Try contacting
IMPACT43 www.training43.com
BWCA http://www.bwca.co.uk/
Or Federation Window Cleaners http://www.nfmwgc.com
Hope this helps
Andy
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why bother go straight to water fed pole seems easier or do 1st level trad and above that wfp
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top rung face on glass full stretch ;D ;D
you done that lammy :o
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what a load of rubbish and bad advice some people give on this forum. thats the problem with so many people wanting to give there little bit . you get so many bits of advice , most of it bad. cant believe someone said get your mate to foot it . :o
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what a load of rubbish and bad advice some people give on this forum. thats the problem with so many people wanting to give there little bit . you get so many bits of advice , most of it bad. cant believe someone said get your mate to foot it . :o
i dont care who foots it as long as its not you Gary ;D ;D
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go as high as you want . just dont forget your parachute
WAS this good advice Gary mallet.
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top rung face on glass full stretch ;D ;D
;D Ah the memories.
I used to ask the customers to keep certain windows open so I have something to grab hold of lol
Matt
Me too! It made it so much easier didn't it? ;D
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that was a joke wizard ;). next time i will try and explain it just for you ;). back to how high . no one should give any advice or encourage anyone to climb to second story windows . fair enough if you are just starting out and a bit desperateyou might be tempted but dont do it . any well established tradders must have some really crap work if they are still cleaning second floor .and they should have heard plenty of horror stories , i have.if you are trad stick to ground floor and first floor no one can be that desperate
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top rung face on glass full stretch ;D ;D
;D Ah the memories.
I used to ask the customers to keep certain windows open so I have something to grab hold of lol
Matt
;D ;D ;D
yep been there as well
we call it the twilight zone here
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Its normally to do with lack of funds, or not wanting to risk a large outlay for what could turn out to be a futile business venture.
£300 for a full waterfed pole setup and futile businees that saves times and lets you work 30% more time
come on mate, get real £300 quid a large outlay. Its 21st century not 19th
idealrob