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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Transitions on February 09, 2010, 05:50:42 pm
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Airflex Turbo extractor anybody used one ? and what they like cheers.
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I took delivery of one at the end of last week. I have only used it a couple of times as I have been using my TM most of the time.
My initial feelings are that it is without question the best portable machine I have ever used. Only time will tell whether I will maintain this view. I have been using 3 vac portables for many years and this one feels like the finished product. Matt has done a great job in producing a fine machine.
Nigel
www.designcare.co.uk
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Airflex Turbo extractor anybody used one ? and what they like cheers.
I too have one best porti i have ever had. whats your email address will send you an email
Regards
Richard
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hello folks
just looking at this machine, do any of you use it as truckmounted, ie leave it in the van?
and if so will say a 200/250 litre freshwater tank do the job?
Mr B
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You obviously have'nt used the Scorpian then Nigel !! Lol
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No I havent had a Scorpion....... I have had two! ;D
Nigel
www.designcare.co.uk
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so how do they compare then ?
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Nigel, that is my ideal dream website you have there.
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Nigel what happened to the Ninja?
Shaun
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Looking at the design/spec looks good price ant bad ether; any one near Sidcup Kent who’s got one would like to have a look
Nigel
Didn’t you have the first pre-scorpion with about 250ft or was it John B ;)
Jasonl
It is nice ant it oh draft marks courtesy of me the pirate ;) ;D :P
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Shaun,
I usually change portables every 2 years so the Ninja is in retirement in the garage. In its defence it never went wrong once in 2 years even with my adventurous modification to the vac system. I thought the Airflex was the best available at the moment and I don't think I am going to be wrong. I will be over the moon if it is half as reliable as the Ninja was.
Stuart
I don't want to start an Airflex v Scorpion debate. I have had 2 Scorpions and I was happy enough with them at the time - if I thought they were still the best option I would have bought another. They are quite different machines each with their own strengths. The major strength of the Scorpion is its lightness and manouverability. In all other respects the I prefer the Airflex which is itself surprisingly easy to manouvre for such a large machine. I may be wrong but haven't Safeclean jumped from Scorpion to Airflex recently?
JasonL
Thank you :)
Nigel
www.designcare.co.uk
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Hi Len,
Yes I had the first Recoil in the UK. It was indeed me who introduced John Bolton to it. In my opinion John made the best improvements to the machine after he and Nick took it on.
Will bring the Airflex to Sidcup when I come to pick up my royalties ;D
Nigel
www.designcare.co.uk
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Looking to buy a ninja, was yours the v2 400psi model?
Shaun
PS which model Airflex did you buy? the 600psi triple?
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Shaun,
Its not for sale - I will keep it for back up. But yes it is a V2 400 psi fully loaded.
Yes the big one ;D
Nigel
www.designcare.co.uk
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I wondered what it was like, a friend of mine has just bought one and is raving about the heat, now he's upgraded from a far smaller machine but he said that the carpets are virtually dry when he leaves and he steams the room up when cleaning, all this with a v2 400psi but twin vac.
Was it a pain sometimes with 3 plugs?
Shaun
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I have never had a major problem with 3 plugs.
The V2 internal and external 3 kw heaters are very impressive. I also have the external high pressure V2 steamate which I will use with the Airflex as necessary.
Nigel
www.designcare.co.uk
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IMO the heat is the special bit about the ninja, the airflex I think is the best porti out there because thought has gone into it, the build looks fantastic I had a hold of one at the CCDO I did like the Alltec machine but the Airflex looked easier to maintain and also easier to lift.
What did you get with it and (the personal bit) how much?
Shaun
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Shaun,
Stop asking questions I am trying to do my invoicing ;D
I got nothing with it as I didn't need wands, hoses etc. I think you will find the price is on the web site. There was a deal on for January which I think was £2650 plus VAT for the full package with wands and hoses?
Nigel
www.designcare.co.uk
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Stop looking on here then! :o
Two more and I'll leave you to your paper work,
How much do you think the tooled up Ninja weighs?
What psi did you use it at for carpets and upholstery?
Shaun
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No idea - but heavy
300 - 400 psi for carpet
200 psi for upholstery
Looks like it might get interesting this year for South Yorkshire bragging rights in the Championship. 8) We are behind you ;D
Nigel
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If you lot finish above us then we'll pinch your manager, I feel a sacking coming on at the lane as Kevin is spouting a sob story atm.
Shaun
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Nigel
What jets are you using too maintain 400psi ???
Oh think you owe me in educating customers ;)
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Nigel, Ive just been looking at your website! very impresive mate!
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Len,
4 x 01
Nigel
www.designcare.co.uk
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I think Nigel's website is excellent but as carpet cleaners we are bias, we are looking as cleaners wonder what the customers think of our websites?
Shaun
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You have a very valid point there Shaun. Having said that, still reckon Nigel site is good from both perspectives
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You are most likely right but we are poluted with carpet cleaning terms and technology, Mrs P is the real one to ask but also which Mrs P are we after?
Hopefully we understand what our customer or buyer wants and that's why we are successful at what we do.
Shaun
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Nigel,
Yes safeclean have moved away from the scorpion to the airflex.
colin.
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Stop looking on here then! :o
Two more and I'll leave you to your paper work,
How much do you think the tooled up Ninja weighs?
What psi did you use it at for carpets and upholstery?
Shaun
Think the weight is about 67kg tooled up basic body without booster vac.
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Nigel
Wow that’s impressive on a ninja!
len
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Is the airflex a quite machine like the prochem ?
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Ive never heard a Airflex Turbo in action however, i have heard & used the Scorpion. Very loud, but this is to be expected when you have 3 vac motors running at same time. The water pump is louder than i would have expected. I see on the website that you can purchase 4inch hose i think it is that will carry away the moisture from the machine plus will help with the sound.
Richie.
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To compare my turbo is quieter than my old powerflite machine (pfx1350)
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Richard
Is that with or without the exhaust pack ?
Steve
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Steve
Thats without the exhaust pack.
regards
Richard
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I've just ordered a new one, looking forward to getting it in a couple of weeks, ordered the heater as well.
Steve
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How much are they Steve?
mark
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Matt's got a package offer until the end of Feb - £2650 + vat
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The Airflex is pretty loud. Not hugely loud, its bareable.
My old Steampro was alot quiter. But you can get a silancer for it and also the exhaust "might" make it quiter too.
Having said that, its a cracking machine!
Tony
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Steve
Do I get an invite too test it! no one in my area has one :o
Len
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Matt's got a package offer until the end of Feb - £2650 + vat
you wont be dissapointed
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Sure Len, give you a buzz when I get it - need a good home for my ninja now
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Hi, does anybody know how much the clip on heater is for it? i'm after a portable, sounds a good machine, just been on the prochem 2day course, and want a new machine asap.
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£ 450 + vat
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thanks steve, unsure what to buy, I was told on the course that the best porty for a starter should only be capable of 100ish psi, not convinced though, any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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You want a minimum of 135psi and twin vac - but to put that into perspective I am upgrading a 400psi and twin vac to a 600psi and triple vac, thats how much things have changed.
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Steve, have you seen any pics of the Magma heater? i'm tempted to get one too for my airflex but if it perfoms like the heat and run from prochem, i wont bother...
Tony
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thanks steve, if you were in my situation would you buy this machine? or save a bit of cash and get a cheaper porty.
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No Tony, I've taken Matt's word for how good it is - he reckons it is instant hot from cold, time will tell if it's a good investment or not
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Steve is yours the 3 x 3 stage vac model? be nice to hear how you go on with it when you get it be sure to report back!! and also info on that heater.
Shaun
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Thanks Steve. Would be good to hear how you get on with it.
Tony
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happy mondays
I don't know your situation, but if you are a new starter I would advise you to get a good, second hand machine off e-bay or the buy and sell sections on the various forums. Then build your business up and then upgrade.
Other people might say steam in and buy a brand new 2 grand plus machine, but if it doesn't work out you've then got to sell it, usually at a loss.
Then again, one of the guys on here started from scratch with a £10,000 plus truckmount and made a success of it - it all depends what sort of a guy you are and what your drive and ambition is, hope this helps.
Steve
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Yes Shaun, went for the triple vac 600 psi, plus heater, plus exhaust pac, wand and glide.
Had the Ninja 2 years now and it's time to upgrade everything, wand, hoses, agitator - the lot.
Steve
PS: possibly selling the Ninja if your interested ;)
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Steve
I’ll take you up on that! Sorry cant help with the ninja the bay perhaps
Len
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In that case I would buy the best machine your budget will allow
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Steve I am interested but was potentially looking at the Airflex anyway, perhaps you could send me the details of what model etc and price on the other forum with private messages?
Thanks Shaun
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thanks steve, good luck with the airflex turbo, I'm still undecided on this or the ninja..
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Steve
Whats the Magma heater like, is it any good and does it have a continual supply of heat?
Bob
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Hi Bob
I'm not getting the machine until start of March, there has been a backlog of orders due to a delay at the moulders.
I haven't even seen a picture of the heater yet, so I have taken Matt's word for it's capability.
Steve
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Hi Bob
I'm not getting the machine until start of March, there has been a backlog of orders due to a delay at the moulders.
I haven't even seen a picture of the heater yet, so I have taken Matt's word for it's capability.
Steve
Have you got your machine and tried the heater yet Steve?
Bob
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I will be looking at these at the show what concerns me is when things are new on the market there problems start to happen some time down the line :-\ I am
concerned about the 3 vacs power on the case body for example many years ago the ninjas case pulled in and out so much they now fit a bar across the tank :-\ to stop this and make more stronger.Airflex is a lot of money for somthing without heat :-\ I will be looking at at :-\
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With tripple vac machines there is a sacrifice because of the cables. For 3 vacs and the pump you need two cables and an onboard heater adds a 3rd. The Alltec has a heater (with two cables) but one of the vacs needs to be turned off for it to work. When I was debating which machine to buy it was kindly pointed out that an on board heater at 100ft is pretty useless and whilst on you can only run 2 vacs. I've been waiting for the inline heater from Matt, but to be honest I haven't missed it. The case is fine and guaranteed. It does not flex. Give Matt a ring go over and try the machines, same with Alltec and Solutions. You might even prefer a powerflite perfect heat. Twin Vac 500psi + heat. I've had my Airlex since November, no faults, Alltec's built quality is legendary and the Scorpion track record speaks for itself and that's why your paying +£2500 + vat. There are cheaper versions of the Alltec and Airflex Twin vac 200psi pump what about these? You will change a machine once every 3 - 5 years and over 3 years that's an investment of £2.30 a day on your original purchase. Buttons mate.
Simon
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Ive never seen the point running a porty from a van it would never come close to a truckmount id rather just leave the machine outside front door why do the 3 vac portys not have a third plug on them so they can have built in heat.
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I ran a 3 vac scorpion from my van b4 i got TM, lots of advantages,
no lugging machine out of van 3-4 times a day, no re loading van 3-4 times a day
i had a Bane waste and freshwater tank, no filling, no emptying, except 5 min when
you get home.
Inline heater just inide front door.
Machine stays newer, with no scratches, bumps, wires rattling loose.
Used average of 50-75' of 2" vac hose, lots of power.
Ken W still uses his successfully, (see van pics thread)
On the downside i had to place ramp over hose ;D
Andrew
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Ive never seen the point running a porty from a van it would never come close to a truckmount id rather just leave the machine outside front door why do the 3 vac portys not have a third plug on them so they can have built in heat.
i have used a porty before having to leave it outside the door when i got an airflex i ran it from the van when the weather is not so great its a lot better. and speeds up setting up and packing up.
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If 3 vac portys are that good from a van whats the point in spending 3or4 times as much on a truckmount.
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Richard have you got a truckmount now if so is there a big difference from running a 3vac porty from a van to going truckmount like suction and heat.
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Darren, its a progressive step up the ladder.
single vac to twin
twin to tripple
tripple vac to TM.
All tax deductable, rather have something shiney and new than pay excessive income tax, to keep illegal immigrants in driving licenses etc ;)
What machines have you had Darren ?
Andrew
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Andrew started of with a Powermax then bought a Hydramaster Raptor but had a lot of problems with the pump on it now have a Powerflight 1350 was thinking of running a 3 vac porty froma van but think i would rather save up and buy a Prowler.
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Good choice Darren, nothing wrong with missing out on a step up ladder.
I had a single vac then twin vac Alltech, then cfr perfect heat, scorpion, then had chance of the bane tanks so ran it for 6 month then got TM last sept.
Now thinking of upgrading my Steamway sidekick,
Andrew
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;D yes I will Thanks!