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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: spindle on June 26, 2005, 12:30:37 pm

Title: steempro discount
Post by: spindle on June 26, 2005, 12:30:37 pm
i have found a company who  have offered to sell me a steempro powerflo/max
for a 20% discount off the price from the prochem brochure............is this a scam??    or do other companys offer a discount??

i guess you pay vat on all machines/equipment/chemicals..........
so if it isnt a scam i would then get a 2.5% discount on book price???
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: Bob Allen on June 26, 2005, 03:34:12 pm
most distributers will offer about 20% discount
if anyone knows of any better let us all know.
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: dave401uk on June 26, 2005, 04:01:07 pm
dont forget the prochem book price is also plus vat! so 20% is worth having

dave
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: williamx on June 26, 2005, 04:37:00 pm
A lot of the dealers who stock Prochem products offer a discount on the Prochem catalogue.

Makes you wonder what Prochem could sell their products at :o
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: mark_roberts on June 26, 2005, 05:32:06 pm
Ashbys are selling there Ninja for £1800 + VAT. 2x3 stage vacs, 400psi pump and element heater.  No tools or wand in that price.

A better machine IMO.

Mark
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: brucie on June 27, 2005, 04:06:35 pm
If you can travel over to surrey,I know where you can get 25%discount.Let me Know if interested.
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: spindle on June 28, 2005, 12:20:58 am
sounds good to me!!!!!............................where in surrey?     
i am not that far ......dartford
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: Len Gribble on June 28, 2005, 07:05:56 am
spindle2k

Give these a ring Crystal cleaning supplies North Cray road Sidcup or London Cleaning Supplies Brownhill Rd Catford ask for Larry. Both are Prochem suppliers.

Len
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: stevegunn on June 28, 2005, 09:50:19 am
My local prochem supplier does not give any discount unless you are a loyal customer and you order a large quantity.Then its only 10% ::)
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: strakercleaning on June 28, 2005, 04:27:02 pm
Steve , You should qualify as a large customer with a loyal quantity  :o
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: stevegunn on June 28, 2005, 05:03:49 pm
Careful Straker >:( ;)
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: spindle on June 28, 2005, 06:37:14 pm
hi len....................L.C.S was the company who offered me a 20% discount

thanx
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: brucie on June 28, 2005, 07:56:50 pm
Barton Electrical (UK)
Moseley Ind Est, 142 Molesey Avenue
KT8 2RY West Molesey, Surrey
25% discount on prochem
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: brucie on June 28, 2005, 08:01:19 pm
and heres the phone no.0044 (0)208 979 4444
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: Ian Gourlay on June 28, 2005, 08:36:11 pm
Have you tried  our sponsors.

Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: Len Gribble on June 28, 2005, 10:46:00 pm
spindle2k

Did they! I got better deal! Suppose it goes credibility?

Len
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: spindle on June 28, 2005, 11:44:24 pm
len

ok so much did they give you >:( >:(    ;D

just curious.........coz if i can get a 25% from the other supplier   i will go there...
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: darrenlee on June 29, 2005, 01:44:57 am
hi

sent u email

PROCHEM SX2100 STEEMPRO 2000 POWERMAX + WAND + HOSES 7.5m. + 1 DAY FREE TRAINING COURSE VIA PROCHEM FOR USE OF MACHINE AND CHEMICALS. FREE DELIVERY TO MOST PARTS OF THE UK. £1281.63 + VAT

PROCHEM TR300 FIVESTAR UPRIGHT COMPACT EXTRACTOR. + 1 DAY FREE TRAINING COURSE VIA PROCHEM FOR USE OF MACHINE AND CHEMICALS. FREE DELIVERY TO MOST PARTS OF THE UK £781.83 + VAT

dont want to put it on here as very good price. found that sometimes you better keeping mouth shut,
as some suppliers will not be happy at someone discounting product. and try putting a stop on it.

this is why suppliers have trade price lists in all trades.
prochem no different, say you bought machine of prochem
£1800 +vat if they sold one to joe bloggs is local supplier
could not argue as he would have done him better deal.

have been selling carpets for 15 years my family 40
and the prices i get now are siily. if approched by any rep,
be it advertising or powder, just say no, never say price you are getting or worse show invoice to proof it,
or you my have just lost the deal you was getting.

hope me ranting helps

thanks darren
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: therapist on June 29, 2005, 06:43:30 am
INTERESTING

You all rave on about NOT competing with low price carpet cleaners, YET HERE YOU ARE.

LOOKING FOR THE CHEEPEST PRICE for your own purchases.

In other words.......behaving like the majority of consumers, who use our services !

What does that say about you?  Are you suggesting that your prospects should'nt " do as you do "and  NOT buy your service on price.

This little discussion has been very revealing about buying habits and realism !

Why should your prospective clients behave differently from you ?

Nuff said

rob m



Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: john rees on June 29, 2005, 08:03:43 am
I think the difference is that with equipment you are comparing like from like(being the same manufacturer)(as long as the after sales are equal!)but with cleaning you are not, would you say that someone who will clean a suite in 45 minutes with a machine that cost a couple of hundred pounds and no training will do as good a job as someone who has invested thousands of pounds in quality equipment and training, and maybe takes about 4 hours or more? As with all things in life you get what you pay for.
                           
                             John ;)
         
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: Doug Holloway on June 29, 2005, 08:11:12 am
Hi Guys,

I've always found this argument comparing the lowest priced distributor with the lowest priced cleaner a bit spurious

The distributor is supplying the same product which is then serviced from the Supplier so price is a direct comparison.

The CC  is supplying a range of products,i.e good carpet cleaning , bad carpet cleaning etc so the products are different and price comparisons much less valid.

It is important to buy well.

There are however other considerations and as I have previously mentioned  , I get significant referrals from both my printer and chemical distributor  , so loyalty does pay and if I pay slightly more , I gain much more than this with my referrals.

Cheers,

Doug
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: Len Gribble on June 29, 2005, 08:38:25 am
spindle2k

If you get no joy elsewhere and you are serious about buying one, send me an e-mail.

Len 
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: John_Flynn on June 29, 2005, 08:38:45 am
Totally agree with you Doug but in this instance thought I would keep my Gob Shut !!

Everybody has got to make a living and REMEMBER suppiliers have higher overheads than us.
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: spindle on June 29, 2005, 04:14:03 pm
wow     i opened a can of worms ;)


point taken doug

but if you are just about to start out wouldnt you compare prices with suppliers
to get the best deal for your bugdet??


p.s thanx for the link darren!! :)
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: therapist on June 29, 2005, 10:14:51 pm
Understand what you're saying Spindle, but , by striking up a good relationship with your local suppliers, you will gain much over time.

This was really my point.

Your prospects, will often see no further, than the price you quote, and don't see you, as any different, from the expensive guy, or the cheep guy

The arguments about costing, will never go away

If I want to buy a Prochem product, I will go to the local dealer.

The only reason I would go elsewhere, would be  poor service, not to save a few pounds.

This is not blind loyalty...........it's an investment.........the local supplier is where I wll go for servicing / repairs / maybe even help.

Maybe that makes me a mug, or soft, but I will get their respect and attention, when I need it.

good luck

rob m

Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: spindle on June 30, 2005, 11:11:38 am
i have taken onboard what you are saying................but if it was only for a few pounds i wouldnt bother........but we are talking about a few hundred pounds difference between buying from supplierA orB :o

i can see the need for a good working relationship with a regular supplier, of course that makes perfect buisness sense. :)
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: Len Gribble on June 30, 2005, 07:39:45 pm
One of my local Jan suppliers passes me work and I’m not a big spender with him, probably equates to £20 to £30 quarterly, but will promote his company if some one wants something that he stocks or is an agent for that product

I’ve even cleaned his carpets at the going rate. :(

Len
Title: Re: steempro discount
Post by: an3175 on June 30, 2005, 10:53:50 pm
What you have got to remember is the back up service offered, it ok getting a good deal from a supplier at one end of the country but what happens if the machine breaks down within the first year of warranty, that’s why distributors have to retain some margin to do this work.